Two of my neighbors have gone out of town and left their large dogs alone.
The people may be stuck in Denver for all I know.

But, the dogs are barking all night long.

I have called the PD, and they say it is an animal control problem, and to
call them. I have called and left them many messages, but they are off
until sometime after the Holidays, probably early February.

I have Googled under dog barking devices, and all I come up with is those
rated at 25 feet or less.

I want to buy or build something that will make a dog shrivel up in pain for
about two blocks around me. Can anyone direct me to such a device, or give
me the short tour of directions to make such a device?

I know if the dogs will just get some negative responses to their barking,
they will probably quit. But for now, it's about to drive me around the
corner.

Appreciate it.

Steve

a .22 with a plastic coke bottle on the end should do the trick

Shopdog wrote:
a .22 with a plastic coke bottle on the end should do the trick

stuff the bottle with brillo pads, it absorbs the heat

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Two of my neighbors have gone out of town and left their large dogs alone.
The people may be stuck in Denver for all I know.

But, the dogs are barking all night long.

I have called the PD, and they say it is an animal control problem, and to
call them. I have called and left them many messages, but they are off
until sometime after the Holidays, probably early February.

I have Googled under dog barking devices, and all I come up with is those
rated at 25 feet or less.

I want to buy or build something that will make a dog shrivel up in pain
for about two blocks around me. Can anyone direct me to such a device, or
give me the short tour of directions to make such a device?

I know if the dogs will just get some negative responses to their barking,
they will probably quit. But for now, it's about to drive me around the
corner.

Appreciate it.

Steve


A nice dish of antifreeze will take care of the problem nicely. If you'd
prefer to do the wrong thing, wait until morning, pick a veterinarian out of
the phone book, call and ask for the name of an organization that will come
and remove the dogs. Never call the municipal animal control department.
With few exceptions, they are useless.

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 04:57:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

A nice dish of antifreeze will take care of the problem nicely. If you'd
prefer to do the wrong thing, wait until morning, pick a veterinarian out of
the phone book, call and ask for the name of an organization that will come
and remove the dogs. Never call the municipal animal control department.
With few exceptions, they are useless.


If that was supposed to be funny, you need a humor transplant.

If you are serious, you are a far bigger asshole than I've given you
credit for.

"GWB" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 04:57:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

A nice dish of antifreeze will take care of the problem nicely. If you'd
prefer to do the wrong thing, wait until morning, pick a veterinarian out
of
the phone book, call and ask for the name of an organization that will
come
and remove the dogs. Never call the municipal animal control department.
With few exceptions, they are useless.


If that was supposed to be funny, you need a humor transplant.

If you are serious, you are a far bigger asshole than I've given you
credit for.


When it comes to dogs, you are probably right. I'm a complete asshole. But,
then again, so are the vast majority of dog owners.

"GWB" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 04:57:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

A nice dish of antifreeze will take care of the problem nicely. If you'd
prefer to do the wrong thing, wait until morning, pick a veterinarian out
of
the phone book, call and ask for the name of an organization that will
come
and remove the dogs. Never call the municipal animal control department.
With few exceptions, they are useless.


If that was supposed to be funny, you need a humor transplant.

If you are serious, you are a far bigger asshole than I've given you
credit for.


And if you seriously care for dogs so little, why should his solution offend
you?

(no pun intended by the use of the word "solution")

Steve

....On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:44:14 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Two of my neighbors have gone out of town and left their large dogs alone.
The people may be stuck in Denver for all I know.

But, the dogs are barking all night long.

I have called the PD, and they say it is an animal control problem, and to
call them. I have called and left them many messages, but they are off
until sometime after the Holidays, probably early February.

I have Googled under dog barking devices, and all I come up with is those
rated at 25 feet or less.

I want to buy or build something that will make a dog shrivel up in pain for
about two blocks around me. Can anyone direct me to such a device, or give
me the short tour of directions to make such a device?

I know if the dogs will just get some negative responses to their barking,
they will probably quit. But for now, it's about to drive me around the
corner.

Appreciate it.

Steve


Dogs 1, Steve 0

(Watch out for the curve on the corner g)

SPCA will do little until you aim to kill. It will take you several
complaints, inclusive of the people next door. All complaints written
and mailed off by you and the guy(s) next door.....not just a single
complaint.

Declare the animal under duress; explain in a 911 call they (animals)
may not have adequate care and may need immediate intervention from
the authorized authority (take down the door).

This is temporary; surely?

On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 21:17:37 -0800, Oren wrote:

...On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:44:14 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Two of my neighbors have gone out of town and left their large dogs alone.
The people may be stuck in Denver for all I know.

But, the dogs are barking all night long.

I have called the PD, and they say it is an animal control problem, and to
call them. I have called and left them many messages, but they are off
until sometime after the Holidays, probably early February.

I have Googled under dog barking devices, and all I come up with is those
rated at 25 feet or less.

I want to buy or build something that will make a dog shrivel up in pain for
about two blocks around me. Can anyone direct me to such a device, or give
me the short tour of directions to make such a device?

I know if the dogs will just get some negative responses to their barking,
they will probably quit. But for now, it's about to drive me around the
corner.

Appreciate it.

Steve


Dogs 1, Steve 0

(Watch out for the curve on the corner g)

SPCA will do little until you aim to kill. It will take you several
complaints, inclusive of the people next door. All complaints written
and mailed off by you and the guy(s) next door.....not just a single
complaint.

Declare the animal under duress; explain in a 911 call they (animals)
may not have adequate care and may need immediate intervention from
the authorized authority (take down the door).

This is exactly what you have to do if you want a response. Tell them
the dogs have been left locked up (where ever they are). Tell them
the dogs have no food or water. You will most likely get immediate
atttention.

I personally love animals, but NOT dogs. In fact I can not stand
dogs. Their barking drives me up a wall, not to mention all their
digging holes, and other bad habits. So, i can easily understand
your frustrations. But I also know that if you want the authorities to
react, make it sound like the dogs are neglected and starving and
you'll get them to react.
Remember, abused dogs are cared for, but humans who are abused by dogs
mean nothing.


This is temporary; surely?

wrote in message ...
I personally love animals, but NOT dogs. In fact I can not stand
dogs. Their barking drives me up a wall, not to mention all their
digging holes, and other bad habits.

Well trained dogs never do those things. When dogs do those things, it's
the irresponsible owners that I can't stand. Pure laziness on the owners
part, just like the owners that left the dogs for Steve to deal with
instead of making arrangements for them to stay in kennel. No excuse for
it.

Cheri

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 08:48:54 -0800, "Cheri" gserviceatinreachdotcom
wrote:


wrote in message ...
I personally love animals, but NOT dogs. In fact I can not stand
dogs. Their barking drives me up a wall, not to mention all their
digging holes, and other bad habits.

Well trained dogs never do those things. When dogs do those things, it's
the irresponsible owners that I can't stand. Pure laziness on the owners
part, just like the owners that left the dogs for Steve to deal with
instead of making arrangements for them to stay in kennel. No excuse for
it.

Cheri


I'll agree with this, but being a farmer, I have had feral dogs and
neighbors dogs coming here and killing my chickens and ducks. I
finally gave up on the chickens and ducks because of the damn dogs. I
cant shoot a dog, but several have left here in a sheriffs squad. One
neighbors dog killed one of my farm cats, and that dog was returned to
the neighbor, in a wooden crate, and I told him if the #%^!&)* thing
ever comes here again, it's dead. Oddly enough, the neighbor told me
to feel free to shoot it if it comes here again. ?????

Either way, I just am not a dog person. My favorite animals are
horses, but I love my barn cats too, and have 14 of them. They keep
the mice population down too, and one of them also kills rats. I have
had dogs, and I have even tried to force myself to enjoy them, but I
just dont care for em. The last dog I had, (puppy) drove me nuts
with it's 24/7 barking. I gave it to a guy who wanted a dog, and the
dog saved his life by barking when a house fire started during the
night. I guess there's a reason for everything.....

wrote in message ...

Either way, I just am not a dog person. My favorite animals are
horses, but I love my barn cats too, and have 14 of them. They keep
the mice population down too, and one of them also kills rats. I have
had dogs, and I have even tried to force myself to enjoy them, but I
just dont care for em. The last dog I had, (puppy) drove me nuts
with it's 24/7 barking. I gave it to a guy who wanted a dog, and the
dog saved his life by barking when a house fire started during the
night. I guess there's a reason for everything.....

I totally understand. Lots of people aren't dog people, and that's fine.
It's the people that insist on having them and not taking proper care of
them that are the problem. When I was young we lived on a ranch and we
had barn cats too, but they were truly feral. No way was anyone getting
close enough to pet them or anything like that, and they were never fed
"cat food."

Cheri

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Two of my neighbors have gone out of town and left their large dogs alone.
The people may be stuck in Denver for all I know.

But, the dogs are barking all night long.

I have called the PD, and they say it is an animal control problem, and to
call them. I have called and left them many messages, but they are off
until sometime after the Holidays, probably early February.

I have Googled under dog barking devices, and all I come up with is those
rated at 25 feet or less.

I want to buy or build something that will make a dog shrivel up in pain
for about two blocks around me. Can anyone direct me to such a device, or
give me the short tour of directions to make such a device?

I know if the dogs will just get some negative responses to their barking,
they will probably quit. But for now, it's about to drive me around the
corner.

Wonder how that gate got open... Oh well.

Hi Steve,

It seems that people always think of negative things to do, which of
course inflict pain, suffering and damage. Did you know that there are
positive things that will better achieve any goal in life. A good dog
trainer could give you the answer in a minute about how to calm the
dogs. Maybe they need some food or water. Maybe some attention.

It is truly a shame to see the cruel and destructive replies here.
Replies which explain how to kill the dogs or leave them run loose to
be killed. It is a sad and deplorable comment on people and the way
they think and behave. It explains why the world is in the condition
it is in.

Why should the dogs have to pay the price for the deplorable behavior
of their owners?

Most likely the owners are not stuck in Denver. Why such a negative
assumption? Hopefully the owners are on the way home.

So the Animal Control is closed until after the Holidays, which you say
is probably in early February. Wow you sure take a long Holiday in
your area or are you just being excessively negative again?

A radio playing some nice music could help calm the dogs, or you.

For you cruel people who recommend killing the dogs with a gun, or
poisoning them to an agonizing death with antifreeze, or letting them
run loose to be slaughtered by an automobile accident which could also
kill people riding in the automobiles, ..... well you have a real nice
Holiday, and remember a man is as he thinks.

marybeth wrote:
Hi Steve,

It seems that people always think of negative things to do, which of
course inflict pain, suffering and damage. Did you know that there are
positive things that will better achieve any goal in life. A good dog
trainer could give you the answer in a minute about how to calm the
dogs. Maybe they need some food or water. Maybe some attention.

It is truly a shame to see the cruel and destructive replies here.
Replies which explain how to kill the dogs or leave them run loose to
be killed. It is a sad and deplorable comment on people and the way
they think and behave. It explains why the world is in the condition
it is in.

Why should the dogs have to pay the price for the deplorable behavior
of their owners?

Most likely the owners are not stuck in Denver. Why such a negative
assumption? Hopefully the owners are on the way home.

So the Animal Control is closed until after the Holidays, which you say
is probably in early February. Wow you sure take a long Holiday in
your area or are you just being excessively negative again?

A radio playing some nice music could help calm the dogs, or you.

For you cruel people who recommend killing the dogs with a gun, or
poisoning them to an agonizing death with antifreeze, or letting them
run loose to be slaughtered by an automobile accident which could also
kill people riding in the automobiles, ..... well you have a real nice
Holiday, and remember a man is as he thinks.



If I was living somewhere and paying taxes, I would be more ****ed off
at the municipality for having an unacceptable response, than I would
be at the dogs. Here in NJ, this would be solved with a call to
animal control, who take this type of thing seriously. If the dogs
have been left outside unattended, here you would get a quick response
and they would be removed in no time, and the owners cited.

I'd call the municipal administrator, followed by councilman, mayor etc
and tell them you have a problem with their response.

"marybeth" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Steve,

It seems that people always think of negative things to do, which of
course inflict pain, suffering and damage. Did you know that there are
positive things that will better achieve any goal in life. A good dog
trainer could give you the answer in a minute about how to calm the
dogs. Maybe they need some food or water. Maybe some attention.

It is truly a shame to see the cruel and destructive replies here.
Replies which explain how to kill the dogs or leave them run loose to
be killed. It is a sad and deplorable comment on people and the way
they think and behave. It explains why the world is in the condition
it is in.

Why should the dogs have to pay the price for the deplorable behavior
of their owners?

Because dogs train humans to do things that make victims out of other
humans. Therefore, the dogs are a major part of the problem. If the same
people had parakeets, we'd never have to put up with their inconsiderate
behavior.

marybeth wrote:


worthless drivel deleted

Dogs are noisy, filthy, worthless vermin and should be banned. No
exceptions. Cats on the other hand should be mandatory.

Pete C.

Pete C. wrote in message ...
marybeth wrote:


worthless drivel deleted

Dogs are noisy, filthy, worthless vermin and should be banned. No
exceptions. Cats on the other hand should be mandatory.

Pete C.

As long as cat owners take care of their cats properly, I like cats, but
letting them run loose as many cat owners do, is totally irresponsible
and plain laziness on their part too. Hopefully, you're not one of them.

Cheri

"Cheri" gserviceatinreachdotcom wrote in message
. ..

Pete C. wrote in message ...
marybeth wrote:


worthless drivel deleted

Dogs are noisy, filthy, worthless vermin and should be banned. No
exceptions. Cats on the other hand should be mandatory.

Pete C.

As long as cat owners take care of their cats properly, I like cats, but
letting them run loose as many cat owners do, is totally irresponsible
and plain laziness on their part too. Hopefully, you're not one of them.

Cheri


Yeah. Nothing's worse than being kept awake all night by barking cats.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote in message ...
"Cheri" gserviceatinreachdotcom wrote in message
...

Pete C. wrote in message ...
marybeth wrote:


worthless drivel deleted

Dogs are noisy, filthy, worthless vermin and should be banned. No
exceptions. Cats on the other hand should be mandatory.

Pete C.

As long as cat owners take care of their cats properly, I like cats,
but
letting them run loose as many cat owners do, is totally
irresponsible
and plain laziness on their part too. Hopefully, you're not one of
them.

Cheri


Yeah. Nothing's worse than being kept awake all night by barking cats.

I don't like seeing them flattened in the street, or killed by other
animals. It's animal cruelty as far as I'm concerned, as well as
laziness on the owners part for not wanting to maintain a cat box, or
even care about their animal. If you don't want to take care of them,
don't get them.

Cheri

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


Yeah. Nothing's worse than being kept awake all night by barking cats.

or a male cat wooing a female in heat...

I ran one off one night
I hit him dead on from about 15 yards
that's how mad I was

Cheri wrote:

Pete C. wrote in message ...
marybeth wrote:


worthless drivel deleted

Dogs are noisy, filthy, worthless vermin and should be banned. No
exceptions. Cats on the other hand should be mandatory.

Pete C.

As long as cat owners take care of their cats properly, I like cats, but
letting them run loose as many cat owners do, is totally irresponsible
and plain laziness on their part too. Hopefully, you're not one of them.

Cheri

My cat shows no interest at all in going outside. Hunting mice in the
garage is about as close to outside as she wants to get.

Pete C.

Pete C. wrote in message ...
Cheri wrote:

Pete C. wrote in message ...
marybeth wrote:


worthless drivel deleted

Dogs are noisy, filthy, worthless vermin and should be banned. No
exceptions. Cats on the other hand should be mandatory.

Pete C.

As long as cat owners take care of their cats properly, I like cats,
but
letting them run loose as many cat owners do, is totally
irresponsible
and plain laziness on their part too. Hopefully, you're not one of
them.

Cheri

My cat shows no interest at all in going outside. Hunting mice in the
garage is about as close to outside as she wants to get.

Pete C.

Glad to hear it Pete, I'm sure your cat is well loved and cared for.

Cheri

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 08:52:56 -0800, "Cheri" gserviceatinreachdotcom
wrote:


Pete C. wrote in message ...
marybeth wrote:


worthless drivel deleted

Dogs are noisy, filthy, worthless vermin and should be banned. No
exceptions. Cats on the other hand should be mandatory.

Pete C.

As long as cat owners take care of their cats properly, I like cats, but
letting them run loose as many cat owners do, is totally irresponsible
and plain laziness on their part too. Hopefully, you're not one of them.

Cheri


Barn cats on farms are always loose, but they stay around the
buildings. It's the stray dogs that COME HERE that cause the
problems. My barn cats follow me around all the time when I am
outside and they get lots of attention from me. Of course a few of
them tend to get under my feet and sooner or later they learn that
they WILL get stepped on. Especially when I am carrying hay bales, I
cant see them down there. They always survive though, and hopefully
learn their lesson. I did have one get kille when a horse stepped on
it though. There is little I can do to stop that. Sometimes I think
cats and dogs are suicidal. I had a cat dart out in front of my car
the other night, on a back country gravel road. I was probably the
only car that used that road in hours. I swear that cat was trying to
get killed. I missed it by a couple feet when I slammed on my brakes.
Really ****ed me off too.....

wrote

I had a cat dart out in front of my car
the other night, on a back country gravel road. I was probably the
only car that used that road in hours. I swear that cat was trying to
get killed. I missed it by a couple feet when I slammed on my brakes.
Really ****ed me off too.....

They do it all the time where I live. I think they're bored, and all get
back together and have a good laugh about it. Like in the squirrel
commercial.

Steve

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 13:00:59 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote:

Dogs are noisy, filthy, worthless vermin and should be banned. No
exceptions. Cats on the other hand should be mandatory.

I can say the same thing for some humans. In fact I have more respect
for a dog than I do some humans.


--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

Oren wrote:

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 13:00:59 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote:

Dogs are noisy, filthy, worthless vermin and should be banned. No
exceptions. Cats on the other hand should be mandatory.

I can say the same thing for some humans.

Yes, particularly those humans who keep noisy, filthy, worthless dogs...

Pete C.

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
Oren wrote:

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 13:00:59 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote:

Dogs are noisy, filthy, worthless vermin and should be banned. No
exceptions. Cats on the other hand should be mandatory.

I can say the same thing for some humans.

Yes, particularly those humans who keep noisy, filthy, worthless dogs...

Pete C.

So anyway, it's Tuesday. Is your useless animal control department back from
the holiday?

"Pete C." wrote

Cats on the other hand should be mandatory.

Absolutely, they make the best Piñata! They last longer when dangled by
their tail, instead of their neck.

Sheena wrote:
"Pete C." wrote

Cats on the other hand should be mandatory.

Absolutely, they make the best Piñata! They last longer when dangled by
their tail, instead of their neck.

Our cat, (I say *ours* only because it lived here) was snatched up by
coyotes. Nothing left but a bunch of fur in the front yard. What a
relief, I can't even remember its name and its only been a couple of
weeks. eg Now my two wonderful dogs get *all* the attention, (as God
intended it).

Sheena wrote:

"Pete C." wrote

Cats on the other hand should be mandatory.

Absolutely, they make the best Piñata! They last longer when dangled by
their tail, instead of their neck.

Dogs are better for that, they last longer before spilling their
"candy". Cats enjoy watching.

Pete C.

"marybeth" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Steve,

It seems that people always think of negative things to do, which of
course inflict pain, suffering and damage. Did you know that there are
positive things that will better achieve any goal in life. A good dog
trainer could give you the answer in a minute about how to calm the
dogs. Maybe they need some food or water. Maybe some attention.

It is truly a shame to see the cruel and destructive replies here.
Replies which explain how to kill the dogs or leave them run loose to
be killed. It is a sad and deplorable comment on people and the way
they think and behave. It explains why the world is in the condition
it is in.

Why should the dogs have to pay the price for the deplorable behavior
of their owners?

Most likely the owners are not stuck in Denver. Why such a negative
assumption? Hopefully the owners are on the way home.

So the Animal Control is closed until after the Holidays, which you say
is probably in early February. Wow you sure take a long Holiday in
your area or are you just being excessively negative again?

A radio playing some nice music could help calm the dogs, or you.

For you cruel people who recommend killing the dogs with a gun, or
poisoning them to an agonizing death with antifreeze, or letting them
run loose to be slaughtered by an automobile accident which could also
kill people riding in the automobiles, ..... well you have a real nice
Holiday, and remember a man is as he thinks.


I guess you didn't read the part that said they do this on a regular basis.

And please explain how people who are too brain dead to even provide a
caregiver or shelter to a dog would work with all the warm and fuzzy
suggestions you have.

You seem to be insinuating that this is my problem, and that I am the one
who needs to get things straight.

Steve

Steve B wrote:
"marybeth" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Steve,

It seems that people always think of negative things to do, which of
course inflict pain, suffering and damage. Did you know that there
are positive things that will better achieve any goal in life. A
good dog trainer could give you the answer in a minute about how to
calm the dogs. Maybe they need some food or water. Maybe some
attention. It is truly a shame to see the cruel and destructive replies
here.
Replies which explain how to kill the dogs or leave them run loose to
be killed. It is a sad and deplorable comment on people and the way
they think and behave. It explains why the world is in the condition
it is in.

Why should the dogs have to pay the price for the deplorable behavior
of their owners?

Most likely the owners are not stuck in Denver. Why such a negative
assumption? Hopefully the owners are on the way home.

So the Animal Control is closed until after the Holidays, which you
say is probably in early February. Wow you sure take a long Holiday
in your area or are you just being excessively negative again?

A radio playing some nice music could help calm the dogs, or you.

For you cruel people who recommend killing the dogs with a gun, or
poisoning them to an agonizing death with antifreeze, or letting them
run loose to be slaughtered by an automobile accident which could
also kill people riding in the automobiles, ..... well you have a
real nice Holiday, and remember a man is as he thinks.

Well said.



I guess you didn't read the part that said they do this on a regular
basis.

I know I didn't miss it; and it changes nothing in the points above that I
agreed to. You're using this as an excuse, that's obvious, to impart your
threats and to attack the loss of control you feel over the situation. If
that happens on a regular basis, why is it NOW you've chosen to complain to
a place where nothing can be done about it, and you can remain completely
anonymous?

And please explain how people who are too brain dead to even provide a
caregiver or shelter to a dog would work with all the warm and fuzzy
suggestions you have.

Personally, I can not. I also can not explain the same about your spoken
sentiments of brutality and lack of respect for life. Why is it NOW you
choose to do something? It wouldn't be because you have some ready-made
problems put in front of you, would it?

You seem to be insinuating that this is my problem,

Yes, it IS your problem, although you're reading between her lines a little
self indulgently. It is YOUR problem now, because up until this point you
have chosen to ignore what you intimate is a long ongoing problem. Your
allegations and credibility are highly supect in my opinion.

and that I am the
one who needs to get things straight.

You do need to get things straight. You already could have. But you
didn't. And you won't. Your BS about the dog control officer is just that;
BS. But if you admitted that, you wouldn't be able to threaten the life and
existence of those animals and even your neighbors. No wonder no one
listens to you.

Post where you live: I'll send you a phone number or address of a place to
visit to make your complaint. All I need is county/city/state/zip.



Steve

"Pop`" wrote in message
news:wRhkh.720$Rc.376@trnddc03...
Steve B wrote:
"marybeth" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Steve,

It seems that people always think of negative things to do, which of
course inflict pain, suffering and damage. Did you know that there
are positive things that will better achieve any goal in life. A
good dog trainer could give you the answer in a minute about how to
calm the dogs. Maybe they need some food or water. Maybe some
attention. It is truly a shame to see the cruel and destructive replies
here.
Replies which explain how to kill the dogs or leave them run loose to
be killed. It is a sad and deplorable comment on people and the way
they think and behave. It explains why the world is in the condition
it is in.

Why should the dogs have to pay the price for the deplorable behavior
of their owners?

Most likely the owners are not stuck in Denver. Why such a negative
assumption? Hopefully the owners are on the way home.

So the Animal Control is closed until after the Holidays, which you
say is probably in early February. Wow you sure take a long Holiday
in your area or are you just being excessively negative again?

A radio playing some nice music could help calm the dogs, or you.

For you cruel people who recommend killing the dogs with a gun, or
poisoning them to an agonizing death with antifreeze, or letting them
run loose to be slaughtered by an automobile accident which could
also kill people riding in the automobiles, ..... well you have a
real nice Holiday, and remember a man is as he thinks.

Well said.



I guess you didn't read the part that said they do this on a regular
basis.

I know I didn't miss it; and it changes nothing in the points above that I
agreed to. You're using this as an excuse, that's obvious, to impart your
threats and to attack the loss of control you feel over the situation. If
that happens on a regular basis, why is it NOW you've chosen to complain
to a place where nothing can be done about it, and you can remain
completely anonymous?

And please explain how people who are too brain dead to even provide a
caregiver or shelter to a dog would work with all the warm and fuzzy
suggestions you have.

Personally, I can not. I also can not explain the same about your spoken
sentiments of brutality and lack of respect for life. Why is it NOW you
choose to do something? It wouldn't be because you have some ready-made
problems put in front of you, would it?

You seem to be insinuating that this is my problem,

Yes, it IS your problem, although you're reading between her lines a
little self indulgently. It is YOUR problem now, because up until this
point you have chosen to ignore what you intimate is a long ongoing
problem. Your allegations and credibility are highly supect in my
opinion.

and that I am the
one who needs to get things straight.

You do need to get things straight. You already could have. But you
didn't. And you won't. Your BS about the dog control officer is just
that; BS. But if you admitted that, you wouldn't be able to threaten the
life and existence of those animals and even your neighbors. No wonder no
one listens to you.

Post where you live: I'll send you a phone number or address of a place
to visit to make your complaint. All I need is county/city/state/zip.



Steve




Hoo, boy. Been overmedicating again, huh?

Let's start at the beginning.

This dog has been doing this for over a year now.

We have called Animal Control at least 25 times on it.

They only work daylight hours, so won't come out at night to hear the dog.

They can only write a citation if THEY hear the dog.

A citizen, with two witnesses, can file a complaint with the district
attorney's office.

The issue can be requested to be sent to the Neighborhood Justice Committee,
a mediation service.

Animal control gets more involved if abuse is reported.

I reported over Thanksgiving weekend, another several days when the dog was
abandoned, but no one showed up.

This week weather here has been in the low thirties at night. You speak
piously down to people who would be cruel to animals. Might these dog
owners meet your requirements?

What do you know? Today, Animal Control left a notice on the people's door
for not providing the dog shelter. Nothing to do with the barking.

I have sent for a very large ultrasonic generator. It is used in tandem
with three others, and in harmony, they will cause people to have a headache
for a week. I will only use one. Google LRAD

Next time I have a barking dog, I shall quickly solve the problem myself.

I can't wait to hit the switch on this baby. It is noiseless, and is
mobile. I can drive around the whole neighborhood and nail each loudmouth
dog with a good jolt of its own medicine.

Steve

"Pop`" wrote

Post where you live: I'll send you a phone number or address of a place
to visit to make your complaint. All I need is county/city/state/zip.

You're amazing, Pop. Just post a county/city/state/zip, and you can tell me
all about the laws and nuances where I live, and like Karnack the
Magnificent, never having been there, let me know it all.

Truly amazing.

Steve

Steve,
I must have missed the post that said they do this on a REGULAR basis.
The post I read said that they were doing this and it was believed they
were abandoned and in immediate danger,etc.

I agree, that barking dogs will absolutely drive you up the wall.

I do rescue and education work with our local goverment and teach
others how to affect the laws in their areas too, and also cannot stand
a constant barking dog.

My x neighbors across the street ( my bedroom window is at the front of
my house also) had 4 dogs that they left outside 24/7 and those dogs
barked constantly at everything.

I still do not know how the people slept at night but being the
inconsiderate lowlifes they were, I quess they just turned out the
world.

I did not sleep for the first 8 years I lived here and yes it will make
you crazy. One I recommend you get a noise machine like I have. I
have an alarm clock/combo noise machine that makes the sounds of the
ocean/birds/white noise etc. That helped cover the noise of the
dogs.

The problem is not the dogs, dogs being dogs, thats how they
communicate. A bored, frightened cold hungry dog does what it knows to
do. Its the same as us talking.

Ok that said, the dog and cat problems we complain about, ( running
loose, barking etc) are NOT ANIMAL problems, they are PEOPLE PROBLEMS.

I suggest that IF this is an ongoing problem and you KNOW these dogs
are not abandoned and in an emergency situation, I would contact first
your animal control to see what the laws and ordinances concerning this
are.

Some of these come under NOISE orndinances not specifically animal
ordinances.

I had good success with neighbors excessionly noisey outside dogs by
calling the police and saying that I am worried something bad is
happening like a fire, or burgulary or something. ANd that is true,
becuase you don't know what their carrying on about. After a couple
visits by the police, they usually get the hint.

Now in my city, if we go thru the city/animal control per se, there is
a requirement for a complaint that it is signed by 2 separate neighbors
of the violation/complaint. That is to keep people from making life
miserable for people that don't simply like and Animal Control and the
courts from being swamped with petty personal problems.

The first suggestion is to ask you neighbors to please bring the dogs
in at night so you can sleep at least.

Ear plugs, clock/noise machine

Call the city about noise ordinances. ALL have something.

If they dogs keep barking call the POLICE and tell them you are worried
that there is something bad going on there. And its possible there
IS! AND you don't have to give your name and ask to remain anonymous
if you want.

Call animal control and your local Humane Society both.

Also if worse comes to worse, contact an attorney. YOU have rights too.

I feel your pain, but please don't be tempted to take it out on the
dogs, they are the innocents in this war. BUT you might ask the
neighbors if they want to find homes for them, becuase by the sounds of
it, they don't really care about them at all anyway.

And as far as the others with the cruel, stupid, redneck, neanterthal
methods, I wouldn't recommend it. It is now a felony crime in most if
not all states to harm animals, and you can be found.

Steve B wrote:
"marybeth" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Steve,

It seems that people always think of negative things to do, which of
course inflict pain, suffering and damage. Did you know that there are
positive things that will better achieve any goal in life. A good dog
trainer could give you the answer in a minute about how to calm the
dogs. Maybe they need some food or water. Maybe some attention.

It is truly a shame to see the cruel and destructive replies here.
Replies which explain how to kill the dogs or leave them run loose to
be killed. It is a sad and deplorable comment on people and the way
they think and behave. It explains why the world is in the condition
it is in.

Why should the dogs have to pay the price for the deplorable behavior
of their owners?

Most likely the owners are not stuck in Denver. Why such a negative
assumption? Hopefully the owners are on the way home.

So the Animal Control is closed until after the Holidays, which you say
is probably in early February. Wow you sure take a long Holiday in
your area or are you just being excessively negative again?

A radio playing some nice music could help calm the dogs, or you.

For you cruel people who recommend killing the dogs with a gun, or
poisoning them to an agonizing death with antifreeze, or letting them
run loose to be slaughtered by an automobile accident which could also
kill people riding in the automobiles, ..... well you have a real nice
Holiday, and remember a man is as he thinks.


I guess you didn't read the part that said they do this on a regular basis.

And please explain how people who are too brain dead to even provide a
caregiver or shelter to a dog would work with all the warm and fuzzy
suggestions you have.

You seem to be insinuating that this is my problem, and that I am the one
who needs to get things straight.

Steve

On 25 Dec 2006 23:18:07 -0800, "marybeth"
wrote:

Hi Steve,

It seems that people always think of negative things to do, which of
course inflict pain, suffering and damage. Did you know that there are
positive things that will better achieve any goal in life. A good dog
trainer could give you the answer in a minute about how to calm the
dogs. Maybe they need some food or water. Maybe some attention.

It is truly a shame to see the cruel and destructive replies here.
Replies which explain how to kill the dogs or leave them run loose to
be killed. It is a sad and deplorable comment on people and the way
they think and behave. It explains why the world is in the condition
it is in.

Why should the dogs have to pay the price for the deplorable behavior
of their owners?

Most likely the owners are not stuck in Denver. Why such a negative
assumption? Hopefully the owners are on the way home.

Why is that a naegative assumption on Steve's part. It's actually a
positive assumption that gives the owners the benefit of the doubt.
That is, if they are stuck in Denver, how can they get home. There
were literally thousands of people stuck at the Denver airport who
wanted to be someplace, but couldn't go there for days.

This doesn't seem like a big point either way except it shows how
people, once they are in a critical mode, can criticize anything, even
for bad reasons, even reasons opposite what the facts show.


AFAICT, though, Steve has never said where the dogs are. Are they in
the house, in the yard, fenced in yard, tied to a tree, a trolley? ??

So I have no comment on the dog situation itself.

So the Animal Control is closed until after the Holidays, which you say
is probably in early February. Wow you sure take a long Holiday in
your area or are you just being excessively negative again?

A radio playing some nice music could help calm the dogs, or you.

For you cruel people who recommend killing the dogs with a gun, or
poisoning them to an agonizing death with antifreeze, or letting them
run loose to be slaughtered by an automobile accident which could also
kill people riding in the automobiles, ..... well you have a real nice
Holiday, and remember a man is as he thinks.

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:05:43 -0500, mm
wrote:
AFAICT, though, Steve has never said where the dogs are. Are they in
the house, in the yard, fenced in yard, tied to a tree, a trolley? ??

They can be sitting on their arse. The dogs ARE, barking.

In the early thread; I strongly suggest the dogs were nearly in a
near-by pistol site - lacking a squeeze on the trigger.

So I have no comment on the dog situation itself.

And your point is?



--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:27:49 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:05:43 -0500, mm
wrote:
AFAICT, though, Steve has never said where the dogs are. Are they in
the house, in the yard, fenced in yard, tied to a tree, a trolley? ??

They can be sitting on their arse. The dogs ARE, barking.

That we know.

In the early thread; I strongly suggest the dogs were nearly in a
near-by pistol site - lacking a squeeze on the trigger.

If they are indoors and you can't see them, would you shoot up the
whole house trying to hit them?

So I have no comment on the dog situation itself.

And your point is?

You snipped most of my post, including my point. It's in this thread
somewhere.

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 20:06:50 -0500, mm
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:27:49 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:05:43 -0500, mm
wrote:
AFAICT, though, Steve has never said where the dogs are. Are they in
the house, in the yard, fenced in yard, tied to a tree, a trolley? ??

They can be sitting on their arse. The dogs ARE, barking.

That we know.

Yes..........barking (constantly) in any situation is a violation
here. on their ass, inside, outside.....it don't matter until you try
to get some compliance from the guy next door.


In the early thread; I strongly suggest the dogs were nearly in a
near-by pistol site - lacking a squeeze on the trigger.

If they are indoors and you can't see them, would you shoot up the
whole house trying to hit them?

You know the answer. The OP frustration would not limit a shot over
the fence... if outside, I saw his point. I've been at wits-end. Did
I punish the animal? No, but I cannot shoot the owner. I suggested
declaring a 911 "duress" call for the pets; not knowing inside/outside
conditions. It's in my post somewhere.

So I have no comment on the dog situation itself.

And your point is?

You snipped most of my post, including my point. It's in this thread
somewhere.

If you had no comment for the *dog situation itself*; being important
in the thread - I'm sorry I snipped in the wrong place...............


--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."