My neighbor just had his house perimeter and garage treated for a
small termite infestation. The chemical used was Dragnet. I thought
that Termidor was the best chemical to use for a contact type
termiticide. Does anyone out there have an opinion on the subject.

I did Google both but can find no article that compares the two.

Norm

NSN wrote:
My neighbor just had his house perimeter and garage treated for a
small termite infestation. The chemical used was Dragnet. I thought
that Termidor was the best chemical to use for a contact type
termiticide. Does anyone out there have an opinion on the subject.

I did Google both but can find no article that compares the two.

Norm

Maybe this will help:
http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/entomolog...0/444-500.html
Try to keep abreast of this myself. My neighbor had them and
fortunately they killed the colony with a juvenile harmone treatment.
Otherwise I was seeing them in stumps in my yard.
Now they are all gone. If your colony is still around, you may want to
do something yourself.

Frank

On 12 Dec 2006 17:05:54 -0800, "Frank" wrote:


NSN wrote:
My neighbor just had his house perimeter and garage treated for a
small termite infestation. The chemical used was Dragnet. I thought
that Termidor was the best chemical to use for a contact type
termiticide. Does anyone out there have an opinion on the subject.

I did Google both but can find no article that compares the two.

Norm

Maybe this will help:
http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/entomolog...0/444-500.html
Try to keep abreast of this myself. My neighbor had them and
fortunately they killed the colony with a juvenile harmone treatment.
Otherwise I was seeing them in stumps in my yard.
Now they are all gone. If your colony is still around, you may want to
do something yourself.

Frank

Frank:

Thanks .. just what I was looking for. So, his termites are being
repelled. I wonder where they will go next??? Fortunately, I treated
the perimeter of my home with Termidor 1.5 years ago. So far, I have
had no problems.

Norm

NSN wrote:

Thanks .. just what I was looking for. So, his termites are being
repelled. I wonder where they will go next??? Fortunately, I treated
the perimeter of my home with Termidor 1.5 years ago. So far, I have
had no problems.

Norm

My house was never treated but at time of neighbor's infestation, there
were termites all over the place. I put out the poisoned stakes
(Sentricon?) and normally spray foundations because of ants. Now with
the juvenile treatment, there are no sign of termites. There are still
plenty of stumps and stray wood piles on his property. If a colony came
back, they would probably attack his yard first.

The repelled termites are bound to find another source of food. If they
cannot find decaying woodpiles like my neighbor has, they will look for
houses. Personally, I think it is fairly easy to detect their presence
by tunnels and swarming and it is not necessary to have the
professionals come out unless you have an infestation.

Frank

On 13 Dec 2006 07:05:35 -0800, "Frank" wrote:


NSN wrote:

Thanks .. just what I was looking for. So, his termites are being
repelled. I wonder where they will go next??? Fortunately, I treated
the perimeter of my home with Termidor 1.5 years ago. So far, I have
had no problems.

Norm

My house was never treated but at time of neighbor's infestation, there
were termites all over the place. I put out the poisoned stakes
(Sentricon?) and normally spray foundations because of ants. Now with
the juvenile treatment, there are no sign of termites. There are still
plenty of stumps and stray wood piles on his property. If a colony came
back, they would probably attack his yard first.

The repelled termites are bound to find another source of food. If they
cannot find decaying woodpiles like my neighbor has, they will look for
houses. Personally, I think it is fairly easy to detect their presence
by tunnels and swarming and it is not necessary to have the
professionals come out unless you have an infestation.

Frank

What do you mean by "juvenile treatment"

Norm

NSN wrote:

What do you mean by "juvenile treatment"

Norm

Juvenile hormones keep the insects from maturing and they die without
reproduction.
Kills the colony.

Frank

Frank wrote:
NSN wrote:



My house was never treated but at time of neighbor's infestation, there
were termites all over the place. I put out the poisoned stakes
(Sentricon?) and normally spray foundations because of ants. Now with
the juvenile treatment, there are no sign of termites. There are still
plenty of stumps and stray wood piles on his property. If a colony came
back, they would probably attack his yard first.

Stations such as these? http://arrow-pestcontrol.com/sen1.JPG
here is what I find way too often with baiting programs, this is on the
opposite side of the wall where the previous pic was taken.
http://arrow-pestcontrol.com/sen2.JPG The tube in the light was the
original tube, the one to right of it is the newer active tube. Most
exterminators would guess the age of the new tube to be 4-6 years old at
least. The baits were placed out at this house in 1999 at a cost of
nearly $2500 with a yearly cost of under $400 this is a very common
find when inspecting homes on baiting programs.



Lar

NSN wrote:
On 12 Dec 2006 17:05:54 -0800, "Frank" wrote:


NSN wrote:



Frank:

Thanks .. just what I was looking for. So, his termites are being
repelled. I wonder where they will go next??? Fortunately, I treated
the perimeter of my home with Termidor 1.5 years ago. So far, I have
had no problems.

Norm


I have not had a call back on any home I have treated with termidor
since it came on the market in 2000. The vast majority of the treatments
have been perimeter type treatments. Know though that most parts of the
country have anywhere from 7-14 established termite colonies per acre.
If the home is a slab foundation and the bath traps weren't treated
there is a chance that a new colony can find the interior areas without
coming in contact with the treated perimeter and get established..but
even if this happen by the time the colony gets large enough for
you/inspector to detect them they probably have foragers getting into
the treated zone thus killing them out.

NSN wrote:
My neighbor just had his house perimeter and garage treated for a
small termite infestation. The chemical used was Dragnet. I thought
that Termidor was the best chemical to use for a contact type
termiticide. Does anyone out there have an opinion on the subject.

I did Google both but can find no article that compares the two.

Norm

Well, most exterminators I know, me included, feel that Dragnet is at
the bottom of the line as termite products go. It does not seem to last
very long. Dragnet is also what we call a "repellent" type temiticide.
More of a chemical shield rather than killing the termite...any termite
that comes in contact with the treated soil for a couple of years will
die, but they actually detect it and stay out of the treated area. If
there is a break in the barrier as wide as a pencil mark, they can take
advantage of it and re-enter the structure. Due to the nature of
repellent termiticides, just treating the perimeter of a home will
probably just push them inside around a bath trap, plumbing, or the
foundation wall interior if it is a crawl space situation. As you
mentioned, termidor would be the choice to use and it has actually
changed the way we apply it over products. It does have a perimeter plus
label, such as your neighbor has done, but the difference is I still
warrant the whole house when treated with termidor, with other products
I can only warrant areas of treatment. I would guess your neighbor
had a price choice of what would be used and he went the less expensive
route. If the company is warrantying the whole structure he should make
sure they are there for the yearly inspection like clockwork, though I
would be surprised if this company will be a long term survivor in the
business if he always uses Dragnet. Now after saying all that, you
might live in upstate New York where termites are few and far between
and pretty much anything may stop the initial invasion and the same
colony now moves on to an old tree root and all parties are happy ever
after.

Lar