a fluorescent spiral "bulb" that draws less than 13W? At least at the
"big box" stores around me they only have the 13W (60W equivalent) and
100W equivalent fluorescent; they are too bright for the fixtures in
the bedrooms at my house. The problem is that the fixtures are cheezy
and are only rated for 40W bulbs; I'm hesitant to even use those since
the house wiring is cloth covered and therefore not 90C rated like
modern wire (what the fixture mfgrs. likely planned on) so I'd like to
use as little wattage as possible. Two 15W incandescents are OK with
me but according to the girlie are too dim. Eventual solution unless I
can find smaller bulbs will probably be leaving one 13W fluorescent in
each fixture, will look a little odd but what can you do.

I do plan on replacing the fixtures with better ones, but probably not
until spring. Reason for this is I would like to replace the ceiling
boxes with fan rated ones and prewire for fans at the same time, which
would involve being up in the attic.

nate

On 2006-12-11, N8N wrote:

a fluorescent spiral "bulb" that draws less than 13W?

Yes, see e.g. www.energyfederation.org.

Wayne

In article .com, "N8N" wrote:
a fluorescent spiral "bulb" that draws less than 13W?

Yep. I just bought some yesterday at Home Depot, in fact. 9W, supposedly
equivalent light output to a 40W incandescent.

UPC # is 762148580942

Cost $7.97

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On 11 Dec 2006 07:43:46 -0800, "N8N" wrote:

a fluorescent spiral "bulb" that draws less than 13W? At least at the
"big box" stores around me they only have the 13W (60W equivalent) and
100W equivalent fluorescent; they are too bright for the fixtures in
the bedrooms at my house. The problem is that the fixtures are cheezy
and are only rated for 40W bulbs; I'm hesitant to even use those since
the house wiring is cloth covered and therefore not 90C rated like
modern wire (what the fixture mfgrs. likely planned on) so I'd like to
use as little wattage as possible. Two 15W incandescents are OK with
me but according to the girlie are too dim. Eventual solution unless I
can find smaller bulbs will probably be leaving one 13W fluorescent in
each fixture, will look a little odd but what can you do.

I do plan on replacing the fixtures with better ones, but probably not
until spring. Reason for this is I would like to replace the ceiling
boxes with fan rated ones and prewire for fans at the same time, which
would involve being up in the attic.

nate

Fluorescent bulbs produce significantly less heat, so there shouldn't
be a problem with a 13W one.

I have seen some that were physically smaller, and could fit in a
fixture too small for a regular bulb (I have a couple of ceiling fans
like that). These are GE brand, part number 85390.

I also have some 7W (marked 40W replacement) bulbs that I got at
Lowe's (Bright Effects #84878). These have candelabra base, but
include edison base adapters.

I haven't seen any smaller than 7W, maybe at that point you're better
off with LEDs.
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Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 11 Dec 2006 07:43:46 -0800, "N8N" wrote:

a fluorescent spiral "bulb" that draws less than 13W? At least at the
"big box" stores around me they only have the 13W (60W equivalent) and
100W equivalent fluorescent; they are too bright for the fixtures in
the bedrooms at my house. The problem is that the fixtures are cheezy
and are only rated for 40W bulbs; I'm hesitant to even use those since
the house wiring is cloth covered and therefore not 90C rated like
modern wire (what the fixture mfgrs. likely planned on) so I'd like to
use as little wattage as possible. Two 15W incandescents are OK with
me but according to the girlie are too dim. Eventual solution unless I
can find smaller bulbs will probably be leaving one 13W fluorescent in
each fixture, will look a little odd but what can you do.

I do plan on replacing the fixtures with better ones, but probably not
until spring. Reason for this is I would like to replace the ceiling
boxes with fan rated ones and prewire for fans at the same time, which
would involve being up in the attic.

nate

Fluorescent bulbs produce significantly less heat, so there shouldn't
be a problem with a 13W one.

I didn't anticipate a problem with heat. The problem is that with two
13W fluorescents in the fixture, turning on the light while someone is
still in bed is likely to result in howls of pain and flinging of heavy
objects There were originally two 15W incandescents in the fixture
and I didn't mind, but SWMBO thought it was a little too dim. Emphasis
on a little.


I have seen some that were physically smaller, and could fit in a
fixture too small for a regular bulb (I have a couple of ceiling fans
like that). These are GE brand, part number 85390.

I also have some 7W (marked 40W replacement) bulbs that I got at
Lowe's (Bright Effects #84878). These have candelabra base, but
include edison base adapters.

I'll have to look for those; I didn't see any when I was shopping last
night, but I'll have to make a return trip to shop for new fixtures
anyway.

thanks,

nate

"N8N" wrote:

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 11 Dec 2006 07:43:46 -0800, "N8N" wrote:

a fluorescent spiral "bulb" that draws less than 13W? At least at the
"big box" stores around me they only have the 13W (60W equivalent) and
100W equivalent fluorescent; they are too bright for the fixtures in
the bedrooms at my house. The problem is that the fixtures are cheezy
and are only rated for 40W bulbs; I'm hesitant to even use those since
the house wiring is cloth covered and therefore not 90C rated like
modern wire (what the fixture mfgrs. likely planned on) so I'd like to
use as little wattage as possible. Two 15W incandescents are OK with
me but according to the girlie are too dim. Eventual solution unless I
can find smaller bulbs will probably be leaving one 13W fluorescent in
each fixture, will look a little odd but what can you do.

I also have some 7W (marked 40W replacement) bulbs that I got at
Lowe's (Bright Effects #84878). These have candelabra base, but
include edison base adapters.

Not only are 40W equivalent in compact spiral common at both HD and
Lowes but HD has a 3W CFL and Lowes a 4W CFL. Both are candelabra
shape but with either medium bases or adapters. I bought a couple last
weekend. You really haven't looked very well.

Now if you were complaining about the extortionate cost of low wattage
CFL's or the lies about their long lives...

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:39:35 GMT,
wrote:

"N8N" wrote:

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 11 Dec 2006 07:43:46 -0800, "N8N" wrote:

a fluorescent spiral "bulb" that draws less than 13W? At least at the
"big box" stores around me they only have the 13W (60W equivalent) and
100W equivalent fluorescent; they are too bright for the fixtures in
the bedrooms at my house. The problem is that the fixtures are cheezy
and are only rated for 40W bulbs; I'm hesitant to even use those since
the house wiring is cloth covered and therefore not 90C rated like
modern wire (what the fixture mfgrs. likely planned on) so I'd like to
use as little wattage as possible. Two 15W incandescents are OK with
me but according to the girlie are too dim. Eventual solution unless I
can find smaller bulbs will probably be leaving one 13W fluorescent in
each fixture, will look a little odd but what can you do.

I also have some 7W (marked 40W replacement) bulbs that I got at
Lowe's (Bright Effects #84878). These have candelabra base, but
include edison base adapters.

Not only are 40W equivalent in compact spiral common at both HD and
Lowes but HD has a 3W CFL and Lowes a 4W CFL. Both are candelabra
shape but with either medium bases or adapters. I bought a couple last
weekend. You really haven't looked very well.


At the time I was not doing research for usenet posting, but looking
for what I needed. I didn't need less than the 7W ones so didn't
continue looking.

Now if you were complaining about the extortionate cost of low wattage
CFL's or the lies about their long lives...

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Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"How could you ask be to believe in God when there's
absolutely no evidence that I can see?" -- Jodie Foster

On 11 Dec 2006 07:43:46 -0800, "N8N" wrote:

: less than 13W?
I have some 5w spiral CF's.