I need to buy a kitchen sink faucet. My present one has one handle and
a separate sprayer: I am used to it, so I'd go with that. However, I
would like the spout to be high, to accommodate bigger pots in the
sink.

A few questions-

Finish: Which ones are longest lasting and best resist fading or damage
during regular use?

Brand: Where is the best value for most trouble free operation?

Sto I know about Home Depot, but are there any local unknown (to me)
gems that would be better?

Many thanks.

We just bought new kitchen faucets as our hot water stopped coming out
of it.

The new one has 1 handle for hot, 1 for cold, 1 spray and a a high
spout. We have 1 sink.

We shopped around at hardware stores plumbing supplies but could not
find what we were looking for. It looks like stainless steel or chrome.
We finally bought a Danze, it comes with a life time waranty, if you
send in the card to register with them.
They have a website also.

shirleyann

Go to Sam's club, they have a very nice fixture with a separate sprayer for
$50. We're using it and are very happy. I've seen it recently in Wheeling,
Evanston, and V. Hills Sam's stores.

S


"Shirley ann" wrote in message
...
We just bought new kitchen faucets as our hot water stopped coming out
of it.

The new one has 1 handle for hot, 1 for cold, 1 spray and a a high
spout. We have 1 sink.

We shopped around at hardware stores plumbing supplies but could not
find what we were looking for. It looks like stainless steel or chrome.
We finally bought a Danze, it comes with a life time waranty, if you
send in the card to register with them.
They have a website also.

shirleyann

"Ajanta" wrote in message
...
I need to buy a kitchen sink faucet. My present one has one handle and
a separate sprayer: I am used to it, so I'd go with that. However, I
would like the spout to be high, to accommodate bigger pots in the
sink.

A few questions-

Finish: Which ones are longest lasting and best resist fading or damage
during regular use?

Brand: Where is the best value for most trouble free operation?

Sto I know about Home Depot, but are there any local unknown (to me)
gems that would be better?

Many thanks.

Everyone's got their own opinions about brands, but I've always been happy
with Moen products. I bought this kitchen faucet for the same reason you
mentioned:
http://www.moen.com/browsecatalog/pr...kurefno=229634

Go to www.moen.com and click on the "where to buy" link. I used 60608 as zip
code, and searched for "home centers" and "distinctive showrooms". I got the
results below. You should try whatever zip code is more specific to your
location.

Don't assume that "distinctive showrooms" means "most expensive". I actually
got the best price on my faucet from a place like that here, and it was a
special order item for them.


N TUREK & SONS SUPPLY COMPANY
1333 S JEFFERSON ST
CHICAGO, IL 60607-5035 US

1.73 miles away
Map
Driving Directions


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DUMORE SUPPLY
2525 S WABASH AVE
CHICAGO, IL 60616-2308 US

2.3 miles away
Map
Driving Directions


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HOME DEPOT
4555 S WESTERN BLVD
CHICAGO, IL 60609-3028 US

2.79 miles away
Map
Driving Directions


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MEYERS ACE HARDWARE
315 E 35TH ST
CHICAGO, IL 60616-3927 US

2.94 miles away
Map
Driving Directions


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FRONCZAK HARDWARE
2606-08 W 47TH ST
CHICAGO, IL 60632-1397 US

3.07 miles away
Map
Driving Directions

I have a Moen single handle faucet with the spray in the center. The
single handle has broken off twice but it is an easy repair. The big
problem is with the chrome plate which has started to peel off the
plastic faucet. This is often sharp and has cut several hands. I file
the edges off from time to time. I believe this would be a problem with
most brands since they are all chrome plated plastic these days. Stay
away from chrome, pay the slightly extra price for stainless steel.
Dave

"Dave" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have a Moen single handle faucet with the spray in the center. The
single handle has broken off twice but it is an easy repair. The big
problem is with the chrome plate which has started to peel off the
plastic faucet. This is often sharp and has cut several hands. I file
the edges off from time to time. I believe this would be a problem with
most brands since they are all chrome plated plastic these days. Stay
away from chrome, pay the slightly extra price for stainless steel.
Dave


Which parts of your faucet are plastic?

I went with Moen for two more faucets, after a good experience with their
customer service. The plastic dip tube in my water heater was defective. It
was deteriorating and sending plastic crumbs into the pipes. The plumber who
repaired it suggested that I check the internals of all the faucets, because
the crumbs had a tendency to lodge themselves in small places and cause
trouble.

In order to be prepared ahead of time in case I needed parts, I went to the
Moen site and emailed them for the correct cartridge model number for my
shower faucet. The email page requested name, address & phone number.
Instead of emailing a response, I got a phone call. The person gave me the
part number, but said they were shipping a new one for free. I explained
that the problem had nothing to do with their product, and that I didn't
expect anything for free. She said she wanted to save me the trouble of
actually finding the part. It was shipped UPS 2nd day air.

I haven't had problems with the chrome on any of their products. Have you
called them about it?

The whole faucet is chrome plated plastic. The internal valves
themselves might be brass but evrything else is plastic coated with a
thin layer of chrome that eventually begins to peel off.
Dave


JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have a Moen single handle faucet with the spray in the center. The
single handle has broken off twice but it is an easy repair. The big
problem is with the chrome plate which has started to peel off the
plastic faucet. This is often sharp and has cut several hands. I file
the edges off from time to time. I believe this would be a problem with
most brands since they are all chrome plated plastic these days. Stay
away from chrome, pay the slightly extra price for stainless steel.
Dave


Which parts of your faucet are plastic?

I went with Moen for two more faucets, after a good experience with their
customer service. The plastic dip tube in my water heater was defective. It
was deteriorating and sending plastic crumbs into the pipes. The plumber who
repaired it suggested that I check the internals of all the faucets, because
the crumbs had a tendency to lodge themselves in small places and cause
trouble.

In order to be prepared ahead of time in case I needed parts, I went to the
Moen site and emailed them for the correct cartridge model number for my
shower faucet. The email page requested name, address & phone number.
Instead of emailing a response, I got a phone call. The person gave me the
part number, but said they were shipping a new one for free. I explained
that the problem had nothing to do with their product, and that I didn't
expect anything for free. She said she wanted to save me the trouble of
actually finding the part. It was shipped UPS 2nd day air.

I haven't had problems with the chrome on any of their products. Have you
called them about it?

"Dave" wrote in message
ps.com...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have a Moen single handle faucet with the spray in the center. The
single handle has broken off twice but it is an easy repair. The big
problem is with the chrome plate which has started to peel off the
plastic faucet. This is often sharp and has cut several hands. I file
the edges off from time to time. I believe this would be a problem with
most brands since they are all chrome plated plastic these days. Stay
away from chrome, pay the slightly extra price for stainless steel.
Dave


Which parts of your faucet are plastic?

I went with Moen for two more faucets, after a good experience with their
customer service. The plastic dip tube in my water heater was defective.
It
was deteriorating and sending plastic crumbs into the pipes. The plumber
who
repaired it suggested that I check the internals of all the faucets,
because
the crumbs had a tendency to lodge themselves in small places and cause
trouble.

In order to be prepared ahead of time in case I needed parts, I went to
the
Moen site and emailed them for the correct cartridge model number for my
shower faucet. The email page requested name, address & phone number.
Instead of emailing a response, I got a phone call. The person gave me
the
part number, but said they were shipping a new one for free. I explained
that the problem had nothing to do with their product, and that I didn't
expect anything for free. She said she wanted to save me the trouble of
actually finding the part. It was shipped UPS 2nd day air.

I haven't had problems with the chrome on any of their products. Have you
called them about it?


The whole faucet is chrome plated plastic. The internal valves
themselves might be brass but evrything else is plastic coated with a
thin layer of chrome that eventually begins to peel off.
Dave




That's weird. All 3 of mine are metal, except for the side mounted sprayer
on the kitchen setup. That's the newest faucet, about 1 year old. I wonder
if they make different product lines (like other manufacturers do) for
different kinds of dealers.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

: Go to www.moen.com and click on the "where to buy" link. I used 60608 as zip
: code, and searched for "home centers" and "distinctive showrooms". I got the
: results below. You should try whatever zip code is more specific to your
: location...

Thanks. Moen is a highly recommended brand and I am considering some of
their models seriously (7430, 7460, 7480, can't tell difference among
them, I picked up thes e#s from different websites) and 7840. A
peculiar thing about Moen website is that when you clic on one model
number more more info, you get "page is unavailable".

There is incredible deal on a Danze model which, in steel version (list
$181) is being cleared dor around $40. But I don't the quality of the
brand.

A Home Depot person was ranking American Standard and Kohler as being
better made than Moen, but Delta even lower. Just one man's opinion, of
course, but he was working the HD's kitchen department.

"Ajanta" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

: Go to www.moen.com and click on the "where to buy" link. I used 60608 as
zip
: code, and searched for "home centers" and "distinctive showrooms". I got
the
: results below. You should try whatever zip code is more specific to your
: location...

Thanks. Moen is a highly recommended brand and I am considering some of
their models seriously (7430, 7460, 7480, can't tell difference among
them, I picked up thes e#s from different websites) and 7840. A
peculiar thing about Moen website is that when you clic on one model
number more more info, you get "page is unavailable".

There is incredible deal on a Danze model which, in steel version (list
$181) is being cleared dor around $40. But I don't the quality of the
brand.

A Home Depot person was ranking American Standard and Kohler as being
better made than Moen, but Delta even lower. Just one man's opinion, of
course, but he was working the HD's kitchen department.

Even when Moen's site works, it's a bit strange. I'd call the company and
have them send you a printed catalog.

In article , Ajanta
wrote:

Sto I know about Home Depot, but are there any local unknown (to me)
gems that would be better?

Two gems:

Gerber on Milwaukee Ave., Remodelers Supply on Pulaski around Addison/belmont

kenji wrote:

In article , Ajanta
wrote:

Sto I know about Home Depot, but are there any local unknown (to me)
gems that would be better?

Two gems:

Gerber on Milwaukee Ave., Remodelers Supply on Pulaski around Addison/belmont

Here's a question- can you still get a shower-handle that does volume
AND temp? All the Home-Despot stuff (Moen, AmSt) does not- according to
my wife. She, and the builder both bought the same model of Moen that
does ONLY temp; this is not good when putting Trent Jr. in the tub.

trent

"trent" wrote in message
...
kenji wrote:

In article , Ajanta

wrote:

Sto I know about Home Depot, but are there any local unknown (to me)
gems that would be better?

Two gems:

Gerber on Milwaukee Ave., Remodelers Supply on Pulaski around
Addison/belmont

Here's a question- can you still get a shower-handle that does volume
AND temp? All the Home-Despot stuff (Moen, AmSt) does not- according to
my wife. She, and the builder both bought the same model of Moen that
does ONLY temp; this is not good when putting Trent Jr. in the tub.

trent

What do you mean "does only temp"? Are you saying that in terms of the
amount of water coming out, the handle gives you either off, or full force,
with nothing in between? If this is the case, I think it's time to call
Moen. Something sounds wrong. I can't believe anyone would design such a
thing.

In article , you say...
"trent" wrote in message
...

Here's a question- can you still get a shower-handle that does volume
AND temp? All the Home-Despot stuff (Moen, AmSt) does not- according to
my wife. She, and the builder both bought the same model of Moen that
does ONLY temp; this is not good when putting Trent Jr. in the tub.

trent

What do you mean "does only temp"? Are you saying that in terms of the
amount of water coming out, the handle gives you either off, or full force,
with nothing in between? If this is the case, I think it's time to call
Moen. Something sounds wrong. I can't believe anyone would design such a
thing.

I can, because my builder went with the cheapest faucet Moen makes (or at
least, damn near it):

http://www.moen.com/browsecatalog/pr...formation.cfm?
skurefno=231678
http://tinyurl.com/ygndfc

No volume control, just temp. Moen does make plenty of more convential faucets
that can do both, you may just need to go somewhere better than Home Depot to
find them.

--

__o Kristian Zoerhoff
_'\(,_
(_)/ (_)

"Kristian M Zoerhoff" wrote in message
. net...
In article , you say...
"trent" wrote in message
...

Here's a question- can you still get a shower-handle that does volume
AND temp? All the Home-Despot stuff (Moen, AmSt) does not- according
to
my wife. She, and the builder both bought the same model of Moen that
does ONLY temp; this is not good when putting Trent Jr. in the tub.

trent

What do you mean "does only temp"? Are you saying that in terms of the
amount of water coming out, the handle gives you either off, or full
force,
with nothing in between? If this is the case, I think it's time to call
Moen. Something sounds wrong. I can't believe anyone would design such a
thing.

I can, because my builder went with the cheapest faucet Moen makes (or at
least, damn near it):

http://www.moen.com/browsecatalog/pr...formation.cfm?
skurefno=231678
http://tinyurl.com/ygndfc

No volume control, just temp. Moen does make plenty of more convential
faucets
that can do both, you may just need to go somewhere better than Home Depot
to
find them.

That's bizarre. I wonder if Moen is hiring out of work engineers from the 3
American car makers.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"trent" wrote in message
...
kenji wrote:

In article , Ajanta

wrote:

Sto I know about Home Depot, but are there any local unknown (to me)
gems that would be better?

Two gems:

Gerber on Milwaukee Ave., Remodelers Supply on Pulaski around
Addison/belmont

Here's a question- can you still get a shower-handle that does volume
AND temp? All the Home-Despot stuff (Moen, AmSt) does not- according to
my wife. She, and the builder both bought the same model of Moen that
does ONLY temp; this is not good when putting Trent Jr. in the tub.

trent

What do you mean "does only temp"? Are you saying that in terms of the
amount of water coming out, the handle gives you either off, or full force,
with nothing in between? If this is the case, I think it's time to call
Moen. Something sounds wrong. I can't believe anyone would design such a
thing.

I don't know the model number/name- but, no, that's what this model
does. You turn the thing, the water comes on, and you can adjust the
temp (only). And, according to my wife (-caveat), "you can't get a
model with adjustable pressure". Which I believe to be false, but I'm
not a builder...

trebt

"trent" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"trent" wrote in message
...
kenji wrote:

In article , Ajanta

wrote:

Sto I know about Home Depot, but are there any local unknown (to
me)
gems that would be better?

Two gems:

Gerber on Milwaukee Ave., Remodelers Supply on Pulaski around
Addison/belmont

Here's a question- can you still get a shower-handle that does volume
AND temp? All the Home-Despot stuff (Moen, AmSt) does not- according
to
my wife. She, and the builder both bought the same model of Moen that
does ONLY temp; this is not good when putting Trent Jr. in the tub.

trent

What do you mean "does only temp"? Are you saying that in terms of the
amount of water coming out, the handle gives you either off, or full
force,
with nothing in between? If this is the case, I think it's time to call
Moen. Something sounds wrong. I can't believe anyone would design such a
thing.

I don't know the model number/name- but, no, that's what this model
does. You turn the thing, the water comes on, and you can adjust the
temp (only). And, according to my wife (-caveat), "you can't get a
model with adjustable pressure". Which I believe to be false, but I'm
not a builder...

trebt

Go to www.moen.com, get the phone number, and call Moen. The big home
improvement stores generally don't carry much variety in the Moen product
line. You'll need to go to a real store, staffed by humans.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


What do you mean "does only temp"? Are you saying that in terms of the
amount of water coming out, the handle gives you either off, or full force,
with nothing in between? If this is the case, I think it's time to call
Moen. Something sounds wrong. I can't believe anyone would design such a
thing.

This is a major peeve of mine also. The new shower faucets (from most all
manufacturers) are a single control design that go from off to on through cold,
then add hot as you continue to rotate the handle. Think turning a bolt.

There is no way to a) set a prefered temp and then adjust the volume or b)
reduce the volume for anything other that full cold.

It seriously sucks.

"Rick Blaine" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


What do you mean "does only temp"? Are you saying that in terms of the
amount of water coming out, the handle gives you either off, or full
force,
with nothing in between? If this is the case, I think it's time to call
Moen. Something sounds wrong. I can't believe anyone would design such a
thing.

This is a major peeve of mine also. The new shower faucets (from most all
manufacturers) are a single control design that go from off to on through
cold,
then add hot as you continue to rotate the handle. Think turning a bolt.

There is no way to a) set a prefered temp and then adjust the volume or b)
reduce the volume for anything other that full cold.

It seriously sucks.

Probably the result of a litigious society in which morons control the
market because they're unable to figure how to adjust water temperature. I
see a market here.

In chi.general JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
: "trent" wrote in message
: ...
: kenji wrote:
:
: In article , Ajanta
:
: wrote:
:
: Sto I know about Home Depot, but are there any local unknown (to me)
: gems that would be better?
:
: Two gems:
:
: Gerber on Milwaukee Ave., Remodelers Supply on Pulaski around
: Addison/belmont
:
: Here's a question- can you still get a shower-handle that does volume
: AND temp? All the Home-Despot stuff (Moen, AmSt) does not- according to
: my wife. She, and the builder both bought the same model of Moen that
: does ONLY temp; this is not good when putting Trent Jr. in the tub.
:
: trent

: What do you mean "does only temp"? Are you saying that in terms of the
: amount of water coming out, the handle gives you either off, or full force,
: with nothing in between? If this is the case, I think it's time to call
: Moen. Something sounds wrong. I can't believe anyone would design such a
: thing.

Well, if your using the shower, you can get one of those shower cut off
switches... mine doesn't just turn off/on, but can be used to slow down the
flow (my faucet also does volumn, but I usually just turn it down at the
head for shampooing).

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"Chicago Paddling-Fishing" wrote in message
...
In chi.general JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
: "trent" wrote in message
: ...
: kenji wrote:
:
: In article , Ajanta
:
: wrote:
:
: Sto I know about Home Depot, but are there any local unknown (to
me)
: gems that would be better?
:
: Two gems:
:
: Gerber on Milwaukee Ave., Remodelers Supply on Pulaski around
: Addison/belmont
:
: Here's a question- can you still get a shower-handle that does volume
: AND temp? All the Home-Despot stuff (Moen, AmSt) does not- according
to
: my wife. She, and the builder both bought the same model of Moen that
: does ONLY temp; this is not good when putting Trent Jr. in the tub.
:
: trent

: What do you mean "does only temp"? Are you saying that in terms of the
: amount of water coming out, the handle gives you either off, or full
force,
: with nothing in between? If this is the case, I think it's time to call
: Moen. Something sounds wrong. I can't believe anyone would design such a
: thing.

Well, if your using the shower, you can get one of those shower cut off
switches... mine doesn't just turn off/on, but can be used to slow down
the
flow (my faucet also does volumn, but I usually just turn it down at the
head for shampooing).
John Nelson


I had one of those. When I slowed down the flow, the temp changed
drastically. Lousy design, I guess.

trent wrote:
kenji wrote:

In article , Ajanta
wrote:

Sto I know about Home Depot, but are there any local unknown (to me)
gems that would be better?

Two gems:

Gerber on Milwaukee Ave., Remodelers Supply on Pulaski around Addison/belmont

Here's a question- can you still get a shower-handle that does volume
AND temp? All the Home-Despot stuff (Moen, AmSt) does not- according to
my wife. She, and the builder both bought the same model of Moen that
does ONLY temp; this is not good when putting Trent Jr. in the tub.

trent

I've been wondering the same thing. I remember I used to have the kind
where it turns to adjust temperature, and you pull out - push in for
on/off and volume. But when I went to get a new one for a remodel, it
seemed that all the pressure-balancing ones had temp control only.
Similar teardrop-shaped handle, but it only turns, does not push
in-out. I'm wondering if the pressure-balancing feature (that keeps
the temp constant when someone flushes a toilet or starts the washing
machine while you're showering) is incompatible with flow control
somehow. -- H

In article , trent wrote:

this is not good when putting Trent Jr. in the tub.

make him take a shower like a big boy

baths are for ****ing around like it's a pool

kenji wrote:

In article , trent wrote:

this is not good when putting Trent Jr. in the tub.

make him take a shower like a big boy

baths are for ****ing around like it's a pool

Shower like I do, under the hose.

trent

kenji wrote:

: Two gems:
: Gerber on Milwaukee Ave., Remodelers Supply on Pulaski around Addison/belmont

Thanks. Gerber seemed rather upscale. However, Remodelers Supply (it is
on 2500 N Pulaski though) is a nice(r?) alternative to Home Depot and
Menards in the sense that they have good selection/price *and* it is
easy to get someone to help you.

"Ajanta" wrote in message
...
kenji wrote:

: Two gems:
: Gerber on Milwaukee Ave., Remodelers Supply on Pulaski around
Addison/belmont

Thanks. Gerber seemed rather upscale. However, Remodelers Supply (it is
on 2500 N Pulaski though) is a nice(r?) alternative to Home Depot and
Menards in the sense that they have good selection/price *and* it is
easy to get someone to help you.

I got my latest Moen from a place that was supposedly "upscale". Their price
was the same as Home Despot quoted me to special order the thing.

"Ajanta" wrote in message
...
I need to buy a kitchen sink faucet. My present one has one handle and
a separate sprayer: I am used to it, so I'd go with that. However, I
would like the spout to be high, to accommodate bigger pots in the
sink.

So, you might like the kind whose main spout is also a sprayer that can be
pulled out. That will (obviously) give you more room over a pot than even
the high rise pull-up type. Colored finishes (typically white or black)
will not have the problem with chrome chipping off of plastic that has been
mentioned in this thread. If that leaves you with an unused hole in your
sink deck, buy a plug to fill it, which will cost maybe a couple of bucks.

Menards may be worth looking at. They don't have as broad a line as Home
Depot but they're often cheaper. (Aaaaagh, there goes that infernal jingle
in my head again - 'you save big money, you save big money, when you shop
Menards' -- you'll hear that a few dozen times if you visit a Menards store
for an hour.)

In article , hitechCOLOR-OF-
says...

So, you might like the kind whose main spout is also a sprayer that can be
pulled out. That will (obviously) give you more room over a pot than even
the high rise pull-up type. Colored finishes (typically white or black)
will not have the problem with chrome chipping off of plastic that has been
mentioned in this thread. If that leaves you with an unused hole in your
sink deck, buy a plug to fill it, which will cost maybe a couple of bucks.

We put a soap dispenser in ours. The pull-out sprayer is definitely worth
checking out.

--

__o Kristian Zoerhoff
_'\(,_
(_)/ (_)

HiTech RedNeck wrote:

: So, you might like the kind whose main spout is also a sprayer that can be
: pulled out. That will (obviously) give you more room over a pot than even
: the high rise pull-up type. Colored finishes (typically white or black)
: will not have the problem with chrome chipping off of plastic that has been
: mentioned in this thread. If that leaves you with an unused hole in your
: sink deck, buy a plug to fill it, which will cost maybe a couple of bucks.

For many reasons (and this includes other family members as well) we
have settled on a one handle + separate sprayer design. The debate now
is whether to pay up to 50% extra for stainless steel or live with
chrome. (Nobody I talked to can relate to the "plastic problem" at all;
maybe Dave has an old model, or some special run Moen did for some
retailer, or maybe a Moen knock-off, I can't guess.)

: Menards may be worth looking at. They don't have as broad a line as Home
: Depot but they're often cheaper.

Both HD and Menards were supremely unattractive (they may be ok if I
know just which model I want, but then I might as well buy online)
although HD does have a much larger display.

At the other extreme I found many showrooms that are very attractive
but also overpriced.

So far the best compromise I found is Remodelers Supply on Pulaski
(thanks Kenji).