Hello ~

My husband and I are trying to remove a short piece of rusty galvanized
piping (waste pipe) underneath our kitchen sink. We are using a pipe
wrench, but it is not budging! We have tried both WD40 and Vinegar
(this was suggested by our local hardware store).

We have to have the pipe wrench facing down, on the left side of the
pipe, because the dishwasher is to the right. We could use a smaller
pipe wrench on the right side, but we can not get good leverage on it.

Here are some pictures so you can see what we are working with:
http://members.cox.net/shelly1205/Plumbing.html

Can somebody PLEASE help us? We have come so far in our garbage
disposal replacement, and don't want to have to call the plumber now!!

Thank you!

~Shelly

I'm not much help, I've never known anyone to get one of those suckers
to come out. I would have suggested heating it up with a blowtorch,
cause I have nothing else to offer, but you'd set your house on fire
doing that.

[That wire coming out looks rather insecure, and I don't mean bashful
!]

Getting that pipe apart I swear is the single most difficult thing one
can attempt on a house. Couple other mentions other than wd-40 that I
saw on the web recommended cutting the pipe that you're trying to take
out down so it sticks out a short bit from the galbanized monster, than
use a wrench to try to collapse it.

Other people mention using a longer wrench, though it looks like you've
got as much as you can get in there.

Shelly wrote:

Hello ~

My husband and I are trying to remove a short piece of rusty galvanized
piping (waste pipe) underneath our kitchen sink. We are using a pipe
wrench, but it is not budging! We have tried both WD40 and Vinegar
(this was suggested by our local hardware store).

We have to have the pipe wrench facing down, on the left side of the
pipe, because the dishwasher is to the right. We could use a smaller
pipe wrench on the right side, but we can not get good leverage on it.

Here are some pictures so you can see what we are working with:
http://members.cox.net/shelly1205/Plumbing.html

Can somebody PLEASE help us? We have come so far in our garbage
disposal replacement, and don't want to have to call the plumber now!!

Thank you!

~Shelly

I don't know if it would help, but there's something called "naval
jelly" that purports to remove rust. Once the rust is removed, the
pipe might be more cooperative.

e.g. :
http://www.acehardware.com/sm-duro-n...i-1828700.html

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CJT wrote:

Shelly wrote:

Hello ~

My husband and I are trying to remove a short piece of rusty galvanized
piping (waste pipe) underneath our kitchen sink. We are using a pipe
wrench, but it is not budging! We have tried both WD40 and Vinegar
(this was suggested by our local hardware store).

We have to have the pipe wrench facing down, on the left side of the
pipe, because the dishwasher is to the right. We could use a smaller
pipe wrench on the right side, but we can not get good leverage on it.

Here are some pictures so you can see what we are working with:
http://members.cox.net/shelly1205/Plumbing.html

Can somebody PLEASE help us? We have come so far in our garbage
disposal replacement, and don't want to have to call the plumber now!!

Thank you!

~Shelly

I don't know if it would help, but there's something called "naval
jelly" that purports to remove rust. Once the rust is removed, the
pipe might be more cooperative.

e.g. :
http://www.acehardware.com/sm-duro-n...i-1828700.html


Apparently Lowes has it, too:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...792-133-117792


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Shelly wrote:
Hello ~

My husband and I are trying to remove a short piece of rusty galvanized
piping (waste pipe) underneath our kitchen sink. We are using a pipe
wrench, but it is not budging! We have tried both WD40 and Vinegar
(this was suggested by our local hardware store).

We have to have the pipe wrench facing down, on the left side of the
pipe, because the dishwasher is to the right. We could use a smaller
pipe wrench on the right side, but we can not get good leverage on it.

Here are some pictures so you can see what we are working with:
http://members.cox.net/shelly1205/Plumbing.html

Can somebody PLEASE help us? We have come so far in our garbage
disposal replacement, and don't want to have to call the plumber now!!

Thank you!

~Shelly


Ok, quit fussing around and cut out a circle
around the pipe, a hole with a diameter of at
least 4-6" larger than the pipe. That allows you
to move the electric cable out of the way and get
to the pipe behind the wall. Next put fiber glass
or asbestos between the pipe and burnable
surfaces and heat the pipe with a propane torch.
While it is still hot you can, if you wish also
squirt WD-40 or a penetrating oil on the joint
that you wish to loosen. You can heat and cool
the joint several times if needed as each time you
do you tend to loosen the rusted joint.

When you finish, repair the hole by gluing a piece
of plaster board (drywall) or better a piece of
1/4" plywood to the existing plaster. It's under
the sink so if you paint it all the same no one
will ever notice it. Good Luck.

"CJT" wrote in message
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Shelly wrote:

Hello ~

My husband and I are trying to remove a short piece of rusty galvanized
piping (waste pipe) underneath our kitchen sink. We are using a pipe
wrench, but it is not budging! We have tried both WD40 and Vinegar
(this was suggested by our local hardware store).

We have to have the pipe wrench facing down, on the left side of the
pipe, because the dishwasher is to the right. We could use a smaller
pipe wrench on the right side, but we can not get good leverage on it.

Here are some pictures so you can see what we are working with:
http://members.cox.net/shelly1205/Plumbing.html

Take a 6 foot 2x4 and place one end on the wrench handle, set the other end
on the floor (towels underneath to protect the floor). Stand on the 2x4 and
bounce on it lightly.

A torch on the pipe may help loosen it up as it expands from heat and then
contracts again when cool. A few sharp raps from a hammer should help shock
the joint apart as well.

Shelly wrote:
Hello ~

My husband and I are trying to remove a short piece of rusty galvanized
piping (waste pipe) underneath our kitchen sink. We are using a pipe
wrench, but it is not budging! We have tried both WD40 and Vinegar
(this was suggested by our local hardware store).

We have to have the pipe wrench facing down, on the left side of the
pipe, because the dishwasher is to the right. We could use a smaller
pipe wrench on the right side, but we can not get good leverage on it.

Here are some pictures so you can see what we are working with:
http://members.cox.net/shelly1205/Plumbing.html

Can somebody PLEASE help us? We have come so far in our garbage
disposal replacement, and don't want to have to call the plumber now!!

Thank you!

~Shelly


Put a cheater bar over the wrench handle (a pipe will) to get some more
leverage.

Put the wrench on the pipe so you can TIGHTEN the joint.....apply force
to wrench until you get a very slight thightening movement. Now flip
the wrench over and loosen the joint.

TIghtening first breaks the joint free with fear of breaking the pipe
stub off.

Give this a try, it will work, always works for me.

Let us know how the repair job works out

cheers
Bob

Shelly wrote:
Hello ~

My husband and I are trying to remove a short piece of rusty galvanized
piping (waste pipe) underneath our kitchen sink. We are using a pipe
wrench, but it is not budging! We have tried both WD40 and Vinegar
(this was suggested by our local hardware store).

We have to have the pipe wrench facing down, on the left side of the
pipe, because the dishwasher is to the right. We could use a smaller
pipe wrench on the right side, but we can not get good leverage on it.

Here are some pictures so you can see what we are working with:
http://members.cox.net/shelly1205/Plumbing.html

Can somebody PLEASE help us? We have come so far in our garbage
disposal replacement, and don't want to have to call the plumber now!!

Thank you!

~Shelly


Put a cheater bar over the wrench handle (a pipe will work) to get some
more leverage.on the joint.

Put the wrench on the pipe so you can TIGHTEN the joint.....apply force
to wrench until you get a very slight thightening movement. Now flip
the wrench over and loosen the joint.

TIghtening first breaks the joint free with fear of breaking the
threads.

Give this a try, it will work, always works for me.

Let us know how the repair job works out

cheers
Bob

"BobK207" wrote in message
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Shelly wrote:
Hello ~

My husband and I are trying to remove a short piece of rusty galvanized
piping (waste pipe) underneath our kitchen sink. We are using a pipe
wrench, but it is not budging! We have tried both WD40 and Vinegar
(this was suggested by our local hardware store).

We have to have the pipe wrench facing down, on the left side of the
pipe, because the dishwasher is to the right. We could use a smaller
pipe wrench on the right side, but we can not get good leverage on it.

Here are some pictures so you can see what we are working with:
http://members.cox.net/shelly1205/Plumbing.html

Can somebody PLEASE help us? We have come so far in our garbage
disposal replacement, and don't want to have to call the plumber now!!

Thank you!

~Shelly


Put a cheater bar over the wrench handle (a pipe will work) to get some
more leverage.on the joint.

Put the wrench on the pipe so you can TIGHTEN the joint.....apply force
to wrench until you get a very slight thightening movement. Now flip
the wrench over and loosen the joint.

TIghtening first breaks the joint free with fear of breaking the
threads.

Give this a try, it will work, always works for me.

Let us know how the repair job works out

cheers
Bob



I would apply generous amounts of Liquid Wrench for a few hours and then try
the above technique. You can find Liquid Wrench at auto parts stores and
many hardware stores.

If it's that tight there is a good your going to break somthing. Most likely
there is years of corrosion in the pipe, you may end up having to sawzal the
threads. Once you get it out hope the inside threads on your Santee are not
gone. When you put it back together use brass it is a neutral metal ad
electrolyses will not effect it.

"Shelly" wrote in message
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Hello ~

My husband and I are trying to remove a short piece of rusty galvanized
piping (waste pipe) underneath our kitchen sink. We are using a pipe
wrench, but it is not budging! We have tried both WD40 and Vinegar
(this was suggested by our local hardware store).

We have to have the pipe wrench facing down, on the left side of the
pipe, because the dishwasher is to the right. We could use a smaller
pipe wrench on the right side, but we can not get good leverage on it.

Here are some pictures so you can see what we are working with:
http://members.cox.net/shelly1205/Plumbing.html

Can somebody PLEASE help us? We have come so far in our garbage
disposal replacement, and don't want to have to call the plumber now!!

Thank you!

~Shelly

"Shelly" wrote in message oups.com...
Hello ~

My husband and I are trying to remove a short piece of rusty galvanized
piping (waste pipe) underneath our kitchen sink. We are using a pipe
wrench, but it is not budging! We have tried both WD40 and Vinegar
(this was suggested by our local hardware store).

We have to have the pipe wrench facing down, on the left side of the
pipe, because the dishwasher is to the right. We could use a smaller
pipe wrench on the right side, but we can not get good leverage on it.

Here are some pictures so you can see what we are working with:
http://members.cox.net/shelly1205/Plumbing.html

Can somebody PLEASE help us? We have come so far in our garbage
disposal replacement, and don't want to have to call the plumber now!!

There's always the risk that when you get that pipe out, you won't be able to
get a new pipe to seal in the wall, necessitating replacing even more, and
tearing up the wall in the process. Why not just take off the elbow and add
new from there. Worst case, you can hacksaw most of the way through the
elbow end so that it can expand and break loose. Don't ding the threads!

If you must remove the pipe, add an extension piece of pipe over the end
of the wrench. Apply as much force as you can to it, perhaps with a stick
up to the cabinet to hold it, then hit the pipe with a hammer to apply impact
force in the same direction.

Bob

Beat end of pipe wrench with hammer (far left end). Pound in a
downward direction. More spray lube. Try Aerokroil, Castle, or some
brand other than WD.

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"Shelly" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello ~

My husband and I are trying to remove a short piece of rusty
galvanized
piping (waste pipe) underneath our kitchen sink. We are using a pipe
wrench, but it is not budging! We have tried both WD40 and Vinegar
(this was suggested by our local hardware store).

We have to have the pipe wrench facing down, on the left side of the
pipe, because the dishwasher is to the right. We could use a smaller
pipe wrench on the right side, but we can not get good leverage on it.

Here are some pictures so you can see what we are working with:
http://members.cox.net/shelly1205/Plumbing.html

Can somebody PLEASE help us? We have come so far in our garbage
disposal replacement, and don't want to have to call the plumber now!!

Thank you!

~Shelly

Thank you all very much for your help. We ended up just cutting the
darn pipe off! :P

It was a long, difficult project, but I am happy to say that it is
FINISHED, and everything seems to be working fine!! (I hope I didn't
just jinx it by saying that...)

~Shelly

"Shelly1205" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thank you all very much for your help. We ended up just cutting the
darn pipe off! :P

WTG ! when in doubt, cut out all the old corroded metal pipe and replace
with ABS. It will last indefinitely

On 17 Jun 2006 21:30:57 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, "Shelly"
quickly quoth:

Hello ~

My husband and I are trying to remove a short piece of rusty galvanized
piping (waste pipe) underneath our kitchen sink. We are using a pipe
wrench, but it is not budging! We have tried both WD40 and Vinegar
(this was suggested by our local hardware store).

We have to have the pipe wrench facing down, on the left side of the
pipe, because the dishwasher is to the right. We could use a smaller
pipe wrench on the right side, but we can not get good leverage on it.

Here are some pictures so you can see what we are working with:
http://members.cox.net/shelly1205/Plumbing.html

Can somebody PLEASE help us? We have come so far in our garbage
disposal replacement, and don't want to have to call the plumber now!!

See if your husband has a piece of 2-1/2 to 6" steel pipe about 3'
long. Drill holes in it so a pry bar will fit through one side and the
monkey wrench through the other. Now you have an extension for the
wrench outside the cabinet. One person can hold it steady while the
other twists.

(Pray that your vertical pipe is more solid than the horizontal from
that elbow, though.)

Also, sometimes it works best to try to tighten a fitting before
loosening it. (I found that out in my previous life as an auto
mechanic.) You might be able to get a bit better angle on it to push
up, then switch it around to remove it.

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| | __
============| | wrench
| |
| |
| | pipe (overhead view)
| |
| |
\\============\\ pry bar
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Thank you!

Jewelcome.


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