I got an estimate for 4 windows with R9 and argon gas triple pane
vinyl. The price? $2270. Any suggestions? $500 a window seems kind of
high to me or is that the price that is going around these days?
Haven't bought windows since 1984, which are the ones that I want to
replace.

I bought 10 double-pane windows with argon and low-e glass for about
$1,400 two years ago. You must be talking to Barrier Windows - did the
salesperson show you some display with a heat lamp shining through a
regular window vs. a window stuffed with fiberglass insulation vs.
their super-duper-window? It's probably a great window, but it's hard
to justify spending that much on windows. It's called "diminishing
returns". If 90% efficient costs 200% more than 80% efficient, is it
really worth it? Usually not.

Have you checked the prices of replacement windows at home depot, or
else where?can run from 175.00 to 295.00. Can you install them
yourself? I just put in 17 windows, including one picture window for
$3400.00. Installation is simple, pulling out the old windows is
simple. get a how-to book, unless your a acomplete klutz, you can do it.

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Have you checked the prices of replacement windows at home depot, or
else where?can run from 175.00 to 295.00. Can you install them
yourself? I just put in 17 windows, including one picture window for
$3400.00. Installation is simple, pulling out the old windows is
simple. get a how-to book, unless your a acomplete klutz, you can do it.


At 55 years of age, the only ones of these that I did myself were fixed
windows over a door and a window.

All the others were too big, too heavy for one person to lift and hold
in place while screwing the frame of the window to the house.

IOW, I had to get help, and yes, I replaced single pane aluminum crap
with double pane vinyl. Windows get at most 1 hour of sunshine a day
10-11 am, so low-E, argon don't help very much. All windows are on the
NorthEast facing side of the house.

that does sound high for vinyl windows. its about right for good sized
aluminum clad wood like marvin or anderson.

R9 , yea sure, Triple pane is at best, just maybe, R6, but R5-5.5 yes.
Get their independant lab result and verify it, then contact the atty
general to turn the liars in.

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I got an estimate for 4 windows with R9 and argon gas triple pane
vinyl. The price? $2270. Any suggestions? $500 a window seems kind of
high to me or is that the price that is going around these days?
Haven't bought windows since 1984, which are the ones that I want to
replace.

No expert here, but the more panes (dead air space) it means somewhat
better insulation.

As for the argon, while it is excellent for this purpose, it does leak
out inevitably & eventually (likely within a year or two). So the Low E
or similar coatings might be worth while cost/benefit over long term.

You probably get what you pay for as for quality construction etc.
Custom large or curved windows cost more. No idea on current prices.

When I bought windows for our house we had built 1993, I got Pellas for
most of the windows with Low E double pane and the blinds in between the
glass.

They have worked fine.

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Barrier windows sent a salesperson over to my house when I was looking
to replace the 10 I mentioned. Maybe you were pitched by a different
company, but it sounds the same. I'll agree that those windows ARE
impressive, but certainly not worth 3 or 4 times the cost of a vinyl
clad window. Just FYI:

Low-e glass is good for keeping the house cool in the summer, IF it's a
window that gets a lot of direct sunlight (ie. south-facing).
Otherwise, it doesn't do much for you.

Argon is an inert gas that is used to fill the gap between the panes
and can decrease the heat loss through the window (or heat gain in
summer time). As others have mentioned, it does leak out, though I
don't know if it leaks as quickly as a year. It's true that it's not
dangerous.

I didn't buy the windows from the salesman who came around, mostly due
to price, but also due to the high-pressure, buy-it-right-now, sales
pitch and the hour of my life wasted listening to him. If you have a
chance to cancel the contract, I would, but be warned, a friend of mine
did that and the company sent another salesperson to talk him out of
it. He was not threatened, but the person they sent was not the nice,
happy, polite one that talked him into the contract in the first place.
Fortunately, my friend was not intimidated by the second person, but
he mentioned that many people could be, so be prepared for the second
"attack" in their sales arsenal and be ready to forcefully tell this
person to leave your property and take his cancelled contract with him.
Have a phone ready to call cops if necessary, though it shouldn't come
to that.

I went to Barriers site and saw no mention of any performance values, my
impression of not including performance data is they are cheap average
windows. R9 would be worth extra bragging rights, but there is no
mention of anything on insulating value. Or did I miss a page on their
site. R5.5 is all one can expect of LowEargon tri pane, I have a few.