I live in an apartment building. There are three other apartments.
All the windows were just replaced. In the month of DecemberI got a
$300 gas bill. I assumed that the heat was too high (the thermostat
was at 65 degrees) so I turned the heat OFF and resorted to a single
space heater which heats the apartment just fine. My January bill just
came and it was...

$300!

When I asked my neighbors what their bills were, they were all roughly
around $70. My bill alone was more than all three of theirs combined
and the heater wasn't even running.

When I inspected the meter in the basement I found that my hot water
heater was leaking a good bit of water. It's being replaced tomorrow.

My question is: could a leaking hot water heater cause a $300 gas bill?
And if it can is this something I can dispute with the gas company, or
should I with the landlord?

If your neighbor left their hot water faucet open 24/7, do you think their
gas bill would go up?

"CPreksta" wrote in message
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I live in an apartment building. There are three other apartments.
All the windows were just replaced. In the month of DecemberI got a
$300 gas bill. I assumed that the heat was too high (the thermostat
was at 65 degrees) so I turned the heat OFF and resorted to a single
space heater which heats the apartment just fine. My January bill just
came and it was...

$300!

When I asked my neighbors what their bills were, they were all roughly
around $70. My bill alone was more than all three of theirs combined
and the heater wasn't even running.

When I inspected the meter in the basement I found that my hot water
heater was leaking a good bit of water. It's being replaced tomorrow.

My question is: could a leaking hot water heater cause a $300 gas bill?
And if it can is this something I can dispute with the gas company, or
should I with the landlord?

Yes, a leaking hot water heater on the hot side can increase your gas
bill. If the landlord knew about it ahead of time and did nothing then
you might have something to stand on, else you'll just have to eat it.
I would periodically check things like that and unnecessary lights being
left on. Also, heat/cooling ducts properly wrapped.

J



CPreksta wrote:
I live in an apartment building. There are three other apartments.
All the windows were just replaced. In the month of DecemberI got a
$300 gas bill. I assumed that the heat was too high (the thermostat
was at 65 degrees) so I turned the heat OFF and resorted to a single
space heater which heats the apartment just fine. My January bill just
came and it was...

$300!

When I asked my neighbors what their bills were, they were all roughly
around $70. My bill alone was more than all three of theirs combined
and the heater wasn't even running.

When I inspected the meter in the basement I found that my hot water
heater was leaking a good bit of water. It's being replaced tomorrow.

My question is: could a leaking hot water heater cause a $300 gas bill?
And if it can is this something I can dispute with the gas company, or
should I with the landlord?

"CPreksta" wrote in message

My question is: could a leaking hot water heater cause a $300 gas bill?

Sure can. Actually is was probably closer to $230 as others paid $70 and
you would have also.

And if it can is this something I can dispute with the gas company, or
should I with the landlord?

Not the gas company. They supply gas at a price and you consumed what they
well. They did what they are supposed to do.
Landord? Maybe. I don't know the terms of the lease and who would be
responsbile for inspecting the property you are using.

[where? answered as if you were in in buffalo ny]
first: notify your landlord and all your fellow tenants in the
building, somebody's getting an upcoming high water bill.
second: ask the gas company to come out and check to see your meter is
allowed to only supply your gas devices, not those of others. with four
units under one roof, separate pipes and meters are required, and if a
common shared gas burning device is used, the owner must pay for that
on a fifth meter.
third: ask about balanced billing with your energy
suppliers to spread out the cost evenly every month of the year. your
neighbors may already have this, so their balanced billing would be
lower than your actual usage billing.
fourth: buy a water alarm for $10 and a battery at your hardware store
or home depot.
fifth: have your plumbing checked for leaks and running toilets, even a
drizzle of water shows up on a modern water meter.
fifth: check your electric meter for electric heater usage, it's not
free. if you phone your electric company and have them advise you
regarding those meters. in a shared lighted stairwell or basement
common areas the landlord is required
in ny multiple dwelling to provide the utility lights.
do you count 5 electric meters?

Thanks for all the input.

There are four seperate meters in the basement. To access the basement
you have to go through one of the apartments (not mine) which is why
the landlord, nor anyone else, didn't find out about the water heater
for some time.

I'm going to ask the landlord if he noticed a higher water bill this
month. He's replacing the hot water heater tomorrow. So if the water
bill is higher and the gas bill drops as a result of the new one I'll
know for sure and hopefully be getting compensated.

"CPreksta" wrote in message
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Thanks for all the input.

There are four seperate meters in the basement. To access the basement
you have to go through one of the apartments (not mine) which is why
the landlord, nor anyone else, didn't find out about the water heater
for some time.

In a situation like that, he can not say you were negligent. I would thing
he'd try to work out something with you. but, OTOH, some landlords are less
than caring. Good luck.

On 23 Jan 2006 17:52:38 -0800, "CPreksta" wrote:

I live in an apartment building. There are three other apartments.
All the windows were just replaced. In the month of DecemberI got a
$300 gas bill. I assumed that the heat was too high (the thermostat
was at 65 degrees) so I turned the heat OFF and resorted to a single
space heater which heats the apartment just fine. My January bill just
came and it was...

$300!

When I asked my neighbors what their bills were, they were all roughly
around $70. My bill alone was more than all three of theirs combined
and the heater wasn't even running.

When I inspected the meter in the basement I found that my hot water
heater was leaking a good bit of water. It's being replaced tomorrow.

My question is: could a leaking hot water heater cause a $300 gas bill?
And if it can is this something I can dispute with the gas company, or
should I with the landlord?

That happened to my Father once. High water bills and high gas bills.

That was in an older house. He was never sure if he owned it or was
renting (lawyer trouble).
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin

8. Mark Lloyd Jan 24, 11:03 am
That happened to my Father once. High water bills and high gas bills.
That was in an older house. He was never sure if he owned it or was
renting (lawyer trouble). "

I think pop had more problems than lawyers and bills.

On 24 Jan 2006 11:04:46 -0800, wrote:

8. Mark Lloyd Jan 24, 11:03 am
That happened to my Father once. High water bills and high gas bills.
That was in an older house. He was never sure if he owned it or was
renting (lawyer trouble). "

I think pop had more problems than lawyers and bills.

Yes.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin

"CPreksta" wrote in message
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My question is: could a leaking hot water heater cause a $300 gas bill?
And if it can is this something I can dispute with the gas company, or
should I with the landlord?

1. Correlate your gas meter and water meter as indicators
of the consumption of hot water.
2. Dispute with the landlord would be appropriate only if
he has both responsibility and opportunity to maintain
the machinery.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)