"Steveo" wrote in message
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(Tom Miller) wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 01:57:59 GMT, "FDR"
wrote:

| I have a couple of gallons of old gasoline, probably at least a
year
| old. I suppose I could dispose of it properly, but I was wondering
| of it could be "revived" somehow or used instead?
|
|
Only two gallons of just one year old gas? Dump it into your car's gas
tank and get new gas for the mower. The gas is not that old in the
first place and there's not enough of it to cause a problem to your
auto in the second place. Please don't dump it on the ground or use it
for weed killer, as this is environmentally damaging. In my state,
it's illegal. People get caught and fined for doing it.

Exactly right!

Please -do not- dump fossil fuel on the ground, you can add that much to
your car tank and never notice a difference in performance.....if you dump
that much on the ground, you will kill everything in the soil that's close
by -and- some fish in your nearest body of water.

Use it up first next year you bogart!

Runoff of this can be a problem environmentally. If spreadout along a
fenceline, yes it kills everything for that growing season on that
fenceline. And much less likely to runoff if dumped in one location.
Typically the next growing season, the soil has recovered enough by breaking
down the gasoline to usable or benign components. 2 to 3 years, one would
think fertilizer was dropped there instead by growth appearances. Used
engine oil is similar. Would have second thoughts on synthetic oil or
petroleum based oil with additive product added to the oil by the consumer.

Dumping laws were directed at chemicals, oil products that were dumped with
no attention to the environment. A common invisible example is an
underground gasoline storage tank that has leaks due to age. The contents
get into the water table. The environmental laws apply to all. Even though
some conscientious individual could dispense a given amount of petroleum
waste without any immediate and subsequent impact except the location its
dumped. A gallon of "bad" gasoline doesn't go to far spread out on a
fenceline. Most of it evaporates.

--
Lil' Dave
Beware the rule quoters, the corp mindset, the Borg
Else you will be absorbed

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:18:44 GMT, "Jim"
wrote:



| Only two gallons of just one year old gas? Dump it into your car's gas
| tank and get new gas for the mower. The gas is not that old in the
| first place and there's not enough of it to cause a problem to your
| auto in the second place. Please don't dump it on the ground or use it
| for weed killer, as this is environmentally damaging. In my state,
| it's illegal. People get caught and fined for doing it.
|
| Exactly right!
|
| Please -do not- dump fossil fuel on the ground, you can add that much to
| your car tank and never notice a difference in performance.....if you dump
| that much on the ground, you will kill everything in the soil that's close
| by -and- some fish in your nearest body of water.
|
| Use it up first next year you bogart!
|
| Runoff of this can be a problem environmentally. If spreadout along a
| fenceline, yes it kills everything for that growing season on that
| fenceline. And much less likely to runoff if dumped in one location.
| Typically the next growing season, the soil has recovered enough by breaking
| down the gasoline to usable or benign components. 2 to 3 years, one would
| think fertilizer was dropped there instead by growth appearances. Used
| engine oil is similar. Would have second thoughts on synthetic oil or
| petroleum based oil with additive product added to the oil by the consumer.
|
| Dumping laws were directed at chemicals, oil products that were dumped with
| no attention to the environment. A common invisible example is an
| underground gasoline storage tank that has leaks due to age. The contents
| get into the water table. The environmental laws apply to all. Even though
| some conscientious individual could dispense a given amount of petroleum
| waste without any immediate and subsequent impact except the location its
| dumped. A gallon of "bad" gasoline doesn't go to far spread out on a
| fenceline. Most of it evaporates.


Overview

Each year, American consumers accidentally spill more than 9 million
gallons of gasoline, largely in attempts to fill small engine machines
like lawn mowers, chain saws, generators and outboard motors and
through improper disposal of excess or old gasoline. The Alliance for
Proper Gasoline Handling is a unique public-private partnership
helping to reduce the significant environmental harm caused by
millions of these small, accidental spills.

A typical portable fuel container, also called a gas can, emits about
8 pounds of hydrocarbons through spills and evaporation each year.

Compared to a new car, a typical portable fuel container emits twice
the amount of hydrocarbons each year.

There are about 78 million portable fuel containers in the United
States. In total, portable fuel containers emit about 621 million
pounds, or 310,000 tons, of hydrocarbons each year.

A rough estimate of hydrocarbon emissions from gasoline spillage alone
is approximately 28,000 tons per year nationwide.

About one tenth of a gallon of gasoline is spilled per portable fuel
container each year during typical use and handling.

These releases contribute, at least in part, to the United States
Geologic Society (USGS) estimate that more than 40 million people use
groundwater that contains at least one volatile organic compound, many
of which are components of gasoline.

"Tom Miller" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:18:44 GMT, "Jim"
wrote:



| Only two gallons of just one year old gas? Dump it into your
car's gas
| tank and get new gas for the mower. The gas is not that old in
the
| first place and there's not enough of it to cause a problem to
your
| auto in the second place. Please don't dump it on the ground or
use it
| for weed killer, as this is environmentally damaging. In my
state,
| it's illegal. People get caught and fined for doing it.
|
| Exactly right!
|
| Please -do not- dump fossil fuel on the ground, you can add that
much to
| your car tank and never notice a difference in performance.....if
you dump
| that much on the ground, you will kill everything in the soil
that's close
| by -and- some fish in your nearest body of water.
|
| Use it up first next year you bogart!
|
| Runoff of this can be a problem environmentally. If spreadout along
a
| fenceline, yes it kills everything for that growing season on that
| fenceline. And much less likely to runoff if dumped in one location.
| Typically the next growing season, the soil has recovered enough by
breaking
| down the gasoline to usable or benign components. 2 to 3 years, one
would
| think fertilizer was dropped there instead by growth appearances.
Used
| engine oil is similar. Would have second thoughts on synthetic oil
or
| petroleum based oil with additive product added to the oil by the
consumer.
|
| Dumping laws were directed at chemicals, oil products that were
dumped with
| no attention to the environment. A common invisible example is an
| underground gasoline storage tank that has leaks due to age. The
contents
| get into the water table. The environmental laws apply to all. Even
though
| some conscientious individual could dispense a given amount of
petroleum
| waste without any immediate and subsequent impact except the location
its
| dumped. A gallon of "bad" gasoline doesn't go to far spread out on a
| fenceline. Most of it evaporates.


Overview

Each year, American consumers accidentally spill more than 9 million
gallons of gasoline, largely in attempts to fill small engine machines
like lawn mowers, chain saws, generators and outboard motors and
through improper disposal of excess or old gasoline. The Alliance for
Proper Gasoline Handling is a unique public-private partnership
helping to reduce the significant environmental harm caused by
millions of these small, accidental spills.

A typical portable fuel container, also called a gas can, emits about
8 pounds of hydrocarbons through spills and evaporation each year.

Compared to a new car, a typical portable fuel container emits twice
the amount of hydrocarbons each year.

There are about 78 million portable fuel containers in the United
States. In total, portable fuel containers emit about 621 million
pounds, or 310,000 tons, of hydrocarbons each year.

A rough estimate of hydrocarbon emissions from gasoline spillage alone
is approximately 28,000 tons per year nationwide.

About one tenth of a gallon of gasoline is spilled per portable fuel
container each year during typical use and handling.

These releases contribute, at least in part, to the United States
Geologic Society (USGS) estimate that more than 40 million people use
groundwater that contains at least one volatile organic compound, many
of which are components of gasoline.



Depends on the locale. Some locales have no drinking water supply that
could be termed "ground water". Jeez, throw some common sense in the old
gasoline dumping and where its going.
Some anaerobic bacteria naturally eat raw petroleum, and peat/decaying plant
material underground or underwater or both. Whatever is added to gasoline
or oil can be problem for these.
--
Lil' Dave
Beware the rule quoters, the corp mindset, the Borg
Else you will be absorbed

Tom Miller wrote:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:18:44 GMT, "Jim"
wrote:



| Only two gallons of just one year old gas? Dump it into your car's
| gas
| tank and get new gas for the mower. The gas is not that old in
| the first place and there's not enough of it to cause a problem to
| your auto in the second place. Please don't dump it on the ground
| or use it for weed killer, as this is environmentally damaging. In
| my state, it's illegal. People get caught and fined for doing it.
|
| Exactly right!
|
| Please -do not- dump fossil fuel on the ground, you can add that
| much to your car tank and never notice a difference in
| performance.....if you dump that much on the ground, you will kill
| everything in the soil that's close by -and- some fish in your
| nearest body of water.
|
| Use it up first next year you bogart!
|
| Runoff of this can be a problem environmentally. If spreadout along a
| fenceline, yes it kills everything for that growing season on that
| fenceline. And much less likely to runoff if dumped in one location.
| Typically the next growing season, the soil has recovered enough by
| breaking
| down the gasoline to usable or benign components. 2 to 3 years, one
| would
| think fertilizer was dropped there instead by growth appearances.
| Used
| engine oil is similar. Would have second thoughts on synthetic oil or
| petroleum based oil with additive product added to the oil by the
| consumer.
|
| Dumping laws were directed at chemicals, oil products that were dumped
| with
| no attention to the environment. A common invisible example is an
| underground gasoline storage tank that has leaks due to age. The
| contents
| get into the water table. The environmental laws apply to all. Even
| though some conscientious individual could dispense a given amount of
| petroleum waste without any immediate and subsequent impact except the
| location its
| dumped. A gallon of "bad" gasoline doesn't go to far spread out on a
| fenceline. Most of it evaporates.


Overview

Each year, American consumers accidentally spill more than 9 million
gallons of gasoline, largely in attempts to fill small engine machines
like lawn mowers, chain saws, generators and outboard motors and
through improper disposal of excess or old gasoline.

Absolute baloney! No way there is 9 million gallons spilled filling small
engines. That just is not true. Its phoney figures like this that make
people question the entire motives of environmentalists. You paint a picture
of people just slopping gas around like it was soapy water at a car wash.

The Alliance for
Proper Gasoline Handling is a unique public-private partnership
helping to reduce the significant environmental harm caused by
millions of these small, accidental spills.
Ah-ha! There's the agenda! got to prop up the numbers so you have a cause to
fight. There's money in it dont cha know? Gument pays good dont they? Hey!
how `bout we tax them dirty homeowners who're spilling all that gasoline?


A typical portable fuel container, also called a gas can, emits about
8 pounds of hydrocarbons through spills and evaporation each year.

Compared to a new car, a typical portable fuel container emits twice
the amount of hydrocarbons each year.

There are about 78 million portable fuel containers in the United
States. In total, portable fuel containers emit about 621 million
pounds, or 310,000 tons, of hydrocarbons each year.

Another wild claim - do the math! now we've got gas cans emitting
almost more tons of pollution than they weigh in the first place
and just by evaporation.


A rough estimate of hydrocarbon emissions from gasoline spillage alone
is approximately 28,000 tons per year nationwide.

About one tenth of a gallon of gasoline is spilled per portable fuel
container each year during typical use and handling.

These releases contribute, at least in part, to the United States
Geologic Society (USGS) estimate that more than 40 million people use
groundwater that contains at least one volatile organic compound, many
of which are components of gasoline.

You want to clean things up? Go after the fools driving the "blue smokers"
down the road. Stop with the wild-ass foolish claims that end up costing
everyone money for nothing.
Spin spin spin, you people sure do know how to spin and twist things.
Eric

FDR wrote:

I have a couple of gallons of old gasoline, probably at least a year old. I
suppose I could dispose of it properly, but I was wondering of it could be
"revived" somehow or used instead?



One year old isn't a problem, but what could make it an issue is how the
gasoline was stored.

I use that for cleaning parts in a pan, with gloves preferably- or use
it to burn trash, etc. as an ignitor. Old gas makes an engine run
terrible.