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Now to break up concrete?
OK, I'll rephrase my earlier request (feather and plug).
Any suggestions on how to break up (to remove) a chunk of concrete approx 5'x4'x2' ? It's quit hard, having cured at the water's edge, semisubmerged. Sledge hammer didn't make a dent. What to do?? TIA |
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MF wrote:
OK, I'll rephrase my earlier request (feather and plug). Any suggestions on how to break up (to remove) a chunk of concrete approx 5'x4'x2' ? It's quit hard, having cured at the water's edge, semisubmerged. Sledge hammer didn't make a dent. What to do?? TIA I had one once about 5'x4'x4' and I ended up digging a big hole beside it and rolling it in. I often wondered if anyone every ended up digging it up and wondering why it was there. :-) -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit |
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Punch wrote:
"MF" wrote in message ... OK, I'll rephrase my earlier request (feather and plug). Any suggestions on how to break up (to remove) a chunk of concrete approx 5'x4'x2' ? It's quit hard, having cured at the water's edge, semisubmerged. Sledge hammer didn't make a dent. What to do?? TIA jack hammer will make short work of this job. Yep, except he then has to get rid of the debris somewhere. |
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"MF" wrote in message ... OK, I'll rephrase my earlier request (feather and plug). Any suggestions on how to break up (to remove) a chunk of concrete approx 5'x4'x2' ? It's quit hard, having cured at the water's edge, semisubmerged. Sledge hammer didn't make a dent. What to do?? TIA This is Turtle. well son , You just made a Rock or Bolder and you have to treat it as a big rock you made. Dig a hole and roll it in it or tie a chain around it and drag it out to the country side and put it up as a land boundery marker or a tribute to yourself as a life long thing to remine you to not make anymore mistates like it ever again. i just thought about this as you said at the waters edge. If it is a river or lake it is near , you can just tie it on to a boat and pull it out to deep water and let go of it. TURTLE |
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Duane Bozarth wrote:
Punch wrote: "MF" wrote in message ... OK, I'll rephrase my earlier request (feather and plug). Any suggestions on how to break up (to remove) a chunk of concrete approx 5'x4'x2' ? It's quit hard, having cured at the water's edge, semisubmerged. Sledge hammer didn't make a dent. What to do?? TIA jack hammer will make short work of this job. Yep, except he then has to get rid of the debris somewhere. Rent a tractor and drag it to some parking lot at night and leave it. |
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"MF" wrote in message ... OK, I'll rephrase my earlier request (feather and plug). Any suggestions on how to break up (to remove) a chunk of concrete approx 5'x4'x2' ? It's quit hard, having cured at the water's edge, semisubmerged. Sledge hammer didn't make a dent. What to do?? TIA jack hammer will make short work of this job. |
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In alt.home.repair on Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:13:17 -0500 "Punch"
posted: "MF" wrote in message ... OK, I'll rephrase my earlier request (feather and plug). Any suggestions on how to break up (to remove) a chunk of concrete approx 5'x4'x2' ? It's quit hard, having cured at the water's edge, semisubmerged. Sledge hammer didn't make a dent. What to do?? TIA jack hammer will make short work of this job. That was my idea. The professional but uninsured guy doing sidewalks next door let me use his, and it wasn't difficult. I'm not very strong either. Usually when it was stuck I could pull it out, but a couple times the handle was even with my shoulders and it was hard to pull higher than my shoulders. I'm 5'8". I think electric jack hammers are shorter though. 4 minutes of this was enough to make me tired. (I"m 58, also.) I'd rent the thing for a half day, and work on it for 5 minutes every hour or half hour, allowing time to recuperate. I didn't keep track, but I guess I did 2 to 4 square feet in 2 to 4 minutes. Maybe there are other things you can do for the same rental. Dig your garden? Meirman -- If emailing, please let me know whether or not you are posting the same letter. Change domain to erols.com, if necessary. |
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I haven't any idea how to break it up; but what is a hunk of concrete that
big for? |
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MF wrote:
OK, I'll rephrase my earlier request (feather and plug). Any suggestions on how to break up (to remove) a chunk of concrete approx 5'x4'x2' ? It's quit hard, having cured at the water's edge, semisubmerged. Sledge hammer didn't make a dent. What to do?? Don't start a new thread on the same topic, for starters. R |
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meirman wrote:
In alt.home.repair on Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:13:17 -0500 "Punch" posted: "MF" wrote in message ... OK, I'll rephrase my earlier request (feather and plug). Any suggestions on how to break up (to remove) a chunk of concrete approx 5'x4'x2' ? It's quit hard, having cured at the water's edge, semisubmerged. Sledge hammer didn't make a dent. What to do?? TIA jack hammer will make short work of this job. That was my idea. The professional but uninsured guy doing sidewalks next door let me use his, and it wasn't difficult. I'm not very strong either. Usually when it was stuck I could pull it out, but a couple times the handle was even with my shoulders and it was hard to pull higher than my shoulders. I'm 5'8". I think electric jack hammers are shorter though. 4 minutes of this was enough to make me tired. (I"m 58, also.) I'd rent the thing for a half day, and work on it for 5 minutes every hour or half hour, allowing time to recuperate. I didn't keep track, but I guess I did 2 to 4 square feet in 2 to 4 minutes. Maybe there are other things you can do for the same rental. Dig your garden? Meirman -- If emailing, please let me know whether or not you are posting the same letter. Change domain to erols.com, if necessary. I rented an electric jack hammer one day. I vowed to never use one again. Those things are back breakers if you aren't used to using them. |
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On 9/8/2005 9:17 PM US(ET), Duane Bozarth took fingers to keys, and
typed the following: Punch wrote: "MF" wrote in message ... OK, I'll rephrase my earlier request (feather and plug). Any suggestions on how to break up (to remove) a chunk of concrete approx 5'x4'x2' ? It's quit hard, having cured at the water's edge, semisubmerged. Sledge hammer didn't make a dent. What to do?? TIA jack hammer will make short work of this job. Yep, except he then has to get rid of the debris somewhere. He wanted to break up the concrete block to get rid of it. I would think that he has considered where to take, or put the debris already. -- Bill |
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On 9/8/2005 11:40 PM US(ET), Toller took fingers to keys, and typed the
following: I haven't any idea how to break it up; but what is a hunk of concrete that big for? Next to water, it could have been for a boat mooring. -- Bill |
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"TURTLE" wrote in message news:7D5Ue.8687 i just thought about this as you said at the waters edge. If it is a river or lake it is near , you can just tie it on to a boat and pull it out to deep water and let go of it. At 150 lbs per cu ft, I'd guess that thing weighs in at around 3 tons. The 'pull it out to deep water in a boat' idea has America's Funniest Home Videos written all over it. |
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User Example wrote:
.... Rent a tractor and drag it to some parking lot at night and leave it. Don't even think such thoughts...the stuff I've had to pick up and haul off from the road ditches and fields from such folks... And, of course, the "except" had no place in the other post as however it's done, there's a fairly sizable amount of stuff. |
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"Ranieri" uh, nah wrote in message ... "TURTLE" wrote in message news:7D5Ue.8687 i just thought about this as you said at the waters edge. If it is a river or lake it is near , you can just tie it on to a boat and pull it out to deep water and let go of it. At 150 lbs per cu ft, I'd guess that thing weighs in at around 3 tons. The 'pull it out to deep water in a boat' idea has America's Funniest Home Videos written all over it. This is Turtle. I did not say pick it up but drag it. You say 3 tons is a too big of a weight to drag into the water. A New Cadillac is just about 3 tons. you then get a 150 horse power bass boat or even one of the 225 h.p. bass boats and tie on to it. You can drag the block of concrete or the Cadillac around all day in the lake till it jams between the tree or log jam. If you have ever seen what these 225 H.P. Bass boats can pull you would not say what you just said. TURTLE |
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On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:04:34 -0700, "MF" wrote:
OK, I'll rephrase my earlier request (feather and plug). Any suggestions on how to break up (to remove) a chunk of concrete approx 5'x4'x2' ? It's quit hard, having cured at the water's edge, semisubmerged. Sledge hammer didn't make a dent. What to do?? TIA Actually the sledge hammer DID make a dent. The only problem is that you stopped before you finished the job. |
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if I caught you doing that on my property, you would never be able to use
that vehicle again. no offense bill "User Example" wrote in message t... Duane Bozarth wrote: Punch wrote: "MF" wrote in message ... OK, I'll rephrase my earlier request (feather and plug). Any suggestions on how to break up (to remove) a chunk of concrete approx 5'x4'x2' ? It's quit hard, having cured at the water's edge, semisubmerged. Sledge hammer didn't make a dent. What to do?? TIA jack hammer will make short work of this job. Yep, except he then has to get rid of the debris somewhere. Rent a tractor and drag it to some parking lot at night and leave it. |
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You could drill some holes in it and put in some M-80's and probbaly
crack it into some smaller more managebly sized pieces. Try cutting it (even only part way through) and then hit it with the sledgehammer again. The cuts might weaken it enough to break. |
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"TURTLE" wrote in message ... "Ranieri" uh, nah wrote in message ... "TURTLE" wrote in message news:7D5Ue.8687 i just thought about this as you said at the waters edge. If it is a river or lake it is near , you can just tie it on to a boat and pull it out to deep water and let go of it. At 150 lbs per cu ft, I'd guess that thing weighs in at around 3 tons. The 'pull it out to deep water in a boat' idea has America's Funniest Home Videos written all over it. This is Turtle. I did not say pick it up but drag it. You say 3 tons is a too big of a weight to drag into the water. A New Cadillac is just about 3 tons. you then get a 150 horse power bass boat or even one of the 225 h.p. bass boats and tie on to it. You can drag the block of concrete or the Cadillac around all day in the lake till it jams between the tree or log jam. If you have ever seen what these 225 H.P. Bass boats can pull you would not say what you just said. You can drag a 3 ton slab of concrete around a lake bed all day with a bass boat? Wow. I had no idea. |
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"Ranieri" uh, nah wrote in message ... "TURTLE" wrote in message news:7D5Ue.8687 i just thought about this as you said at the waters edge. If it is a river or lake it is near , you can just tie it on to a boat and pull it out to deep water and let go of it. At 150 lbs per cu ft, I'd guess that thing weighs in at around 3 tons. The 'pull it out to deep water in a boat' idea has America's Funniest Home Videos written all over it. LOL |
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"Ranieri" uh, nah wrote in message ... "TURTLE" wrote in message ... "Ranieri" uh, nah wrote in message ... "TURTLE" wrote in message news:7D5Ue.8687 i just thought about this as you said at the waters edge. If it is a river or lake it is near , you can just tie it on to a boat and pull it out to deep water and let go of it. At 150 lbs per cu ft, I'd guess that thing weighs in at around 3 tons. The 'pull it out to deep water in a boat' idea has America's Funniest Home Videos written all over it. This is Turtle. I did not say pick it up but drag it. You say 3 tons is a too big of a weight to drag into the water. A New Cadillac is just about 3 tons. you then get a 150 horse power bass boat or even one of the 225 h.p. bass boats and tie on to it. You can drag the block of concrete or the Cadillac around all day in the lake till it jams between the tree or log jam. If you have ever seen what these 225 H.P. Bass boats can pull you would not say what you just said. You can drag a 3 ton slab of concrete around a lake bed all day with a bass boat? Wow. I had no idea. Actually I'm just wondering how he knows ANY boat can drag a caddy around a lake bottom all day g AMUN |
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"Duane Bozarth" wrote in message ... Punch wrote: "MF" wrote in message ... OK, I'll rephrase my earlier request (feather and plug). Any suggestions on how to break up (to remove) a chunk of concrete approx 5'x4'x2' ? It's quit hard, having cured at the water's edge, semisubmerged. Sledge hammer didn't make a dent. What to do?? TIA jack hammer will make short work of this job. Yep, except he then has to get rid of the debris somewhere. Depending on how long you go at it, there may be nothing but beach sand left. AMUN |
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You can drag a 3 ton slab of concrete around a lake bed all day with a bass boat? Wow. I had no idea. Actually, maybe. Depending on where and how the tow-chain was hooked up, and what kind of prop you've got. And what the bottom is. |
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"Goedjn" wrote in message
... You can drag a 3 ton slab of concrete around a lake bed all day with a bass boat? Wow. I had no idea. Actually, maybe. Depending on where and how the tow-chain was hooked up, and what kind of prop you've got. And what the bottom is. This is Turtle. sand bottom , 20 feet of water, extra long motor shaft to draw motor water for power, 225 H.P. Evinruide / Johnson with 4 blade power propt. and not speed propt.. then hook up to front axle and drag forward. You can make it Ski behind this boat. I had a friend that bought 3 flate bed ford 350 trucks old and eat up with rust and he drug them out in Toledo Bend Lake in Louisiana / Texas and he drug them around like nothing with his 200 H.P. bass boat. He put them all in one place to make a White Perch Hole. that 200 H.P. motor will pull more that anyone would think and he never open the motor up to pull the load for about 1/2 throttle was all he used. If I would not have seen it myself i would not have believed it myself. TURTLE TURTLE |
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 09:20:39 -0500, TURTLE wrote:
"Ranieri" uh, nah wrote in message ... "TURTLE" wrote in message news:7D5Ue.8687 i just thought about this as you said at the waters edge. If it is a river or lake it is near , you can just tie it on to a boat and pull it out to deep water and let go of it. At 150 lbs per cu ft, I'd guess that thing weighs in at around 3 tons. The 'pull it out to deep water in a boat' idea has America's Funniest Home Videos written all over it. This is Turtle. I did not say pick it up but drag it. You say 3 tons is a too big of a weight to drag into the water. A New Cadillac is just about 3 tons. you then get a 150 horse power bass boat or even one of the 225 h.p. bass boats and tie on to it. You can drag the block of concrete or the Cadillac around all day in the lake till it jams between the tree or log jam. If you have ever seen what these 225 H.P. Bass boats can pull you would not say what you just said. It thought 3 tons should make a damned nice anchor for a bass boat. I expect there's gonna be a lot of froth in the water. -- Keith TURTLE |
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"TURTLE" wrote in message ... "Goedjn" wrote in message ... You can drag a 3 ton slab of concrete around a lake bed all day with a bass boat? Wow. I had no idea. Actually, maybe. Depending on where and how the tow-chain was hooked up, and what kind of prop you've got. And what the bottom is. This is Turtle. sand bottom , 20 feet of water, extra long motor shaft to draw motor water for power, 225 H.P. Evinruide / Johnson with 4 blade power propt. and not speed propt.. then hook up to front axle and drag forward. You can make it Ski behind this boat. I had a friend that bought 3 flate bed ford 350 trucks old and eat up with rust and he drug them out in Toledo Bend Lake in Louisiana / Texas and he drug them around like nothing with his 200 H.P. bass boat. He put them all in one place to make a White Perch Hole. that 200 H.P. motor will pull more that anyone would think and he never open the motor up to pull the load for about 1/2 throttle was all he used. If I would not have seen it myself i would not have believed it myself. TURTLE TURTLE Here's your problem, TURTLE... an old Ford truck or a new caddy is going to displace a lot more water than a slab of concrete. And the vehicle will be buoyed by the equilvalent weight of displaced water...Archimedes, I think...sooo,,,,I reckon you should justy cut your losses here and figure a bass boat ain't gonna pull a 3 ton slab of rock around a lake bed. Nuff said on that one. |
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