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Hello,

Does long cycling times between ice (square cubes) being made and not
very cold water coming from the dispenser indicate the temperature may
be too high in the freezer? Are there other things it could be?

4-5 year old Kitchenaide Superba, side by side.

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Hello,

Does long cycling times between ice (square cubes) being made and not very
cold water coming from the dispenser indicate the temperature may be too
high in the freezer? Are there other things it could be?

4-5 year old Kitchenaide Superba, side by side.

Thanks


The water dispenser has a reservoir in the refrigerator. The first couple
of ounces are not as cold as they are sitting in the line and no longer
cooled. Mine just came out at 46 degrees

I have the same model, a few years older. The unit was delivered with the
setting in the mid range and I've never had reason to change them. Is this
a recent problem that is taking longer?


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Hello,

Does long cycling times between ice (square cubes) being made and not
very cold water coming from the dispenser indicate the temperature may
be too high in the freezer? Are there other things it could be?

4-5 year old Kitchenaide Superba, side by side.

Thanks


I've never seen an icemaker that is more than a motorized tray cooled by the
air in the freezer.

So about the only reason is the freezer temp is set too high.
But you should also see other things like runny ice-cream

And remember that constantly opening the doors will do the same thing.
Do you have kids/family members who are in the fridge/freezer constantly,
and leave the door open while they take five minutes to decide what they
want ?

Another (but very unlikely) possible cause.
Is the water inlet from the cold water supply, or did someone tap into a hot
water line ?
(it happens)


AMUN


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Hello,

Does long cycling times between ice (square cubes) being made and not very
cold water coming from the dispenser indicate the temperature may be too
high in the freezer? Are there other things it could be?

4-5 year old Kitchenaide Superba, side by side.

Thanks



The water dispenser has a reservoir in the refrigerator. The first couple
of ounces are not as cold as they are sitting in the line and no longer
cooled. Mine just came out at 46 degrees

I have the same model, a few years older. The unit was delivered with the
setting in the mid range and I've never had reason to change them. Is this
a recent problem that is taking longer?



Yes, recent. I noticed just yesterday the ice container was very low so
i've had my eye on it. I believe it's only made ice 2-3 times since
yesterday afternoon, and the latest was about 445 minutes ago.

Approximately how long does it usually take between cycles? Seems like
before this if the tray was mostly emptied it would cycle and make ice
right along until the tray was full again.

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Yes, recent. I noticed just yesterday the ice container was very low so
i've had my eye on it. I believe it's only made ice 2-3 times since
yesterday afternoon, and the latest was about 445 minutes ago.

Approximately how long does it usually take between cycles? Seems like
before this if the tray was mostly emptied it would cycle and make ice
right along until the tray was full again.


It does take a few hours between loads, but I don't know exactly. When mine
gets very low, it takes at least 24 hours to completely refill.




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Hello,

Does long cycling times between ice (square cubes) being made and not
very cold water coming from the dispenser indicate the temperature may
be too high in the freezer? Are there other things it could be?

4-5 year old Kitchenaide Superba, side by side.

Thanks



I've never seen an icemaker that is more than a motorized tray cooled by the
air in the freezer.

So about the only reason is the freezer temp is set too high.
But you should also see other things like runny ice-cream


I will check that. Looking for about 12 degrees?


And remember that constantly opening the doors will do the same thing.
Do you have kids/family members who are in the fridge/freezer constantly,
and leave the door open while they take five minutes to decide what they
want ?


lol, no.


Another (but very unlikely) possible cause.
Is the water inlet from the cold water supply, or did someone tap into a hot
water line ?
(it happens)


AMUN



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Hello,

Does long cycling times between ice (square cubes) being made and not
very cold water coming from the dispenser indicate the temperature may
be too high in the freezer? Are there other things it could be?

4-5 year old Kitchenaide Superba, side by side.

Thanks



I've never seen an icemaker that is more than a motorized tray cooled by

the
air in the freezer.

So about the only reason is the freezer temp is set too high.
But you should also see other things like runny ice-cream


I will check that. Looking for about 12 degrees?


Most thermostats in fridges are not calibrated well, so I only rely on them
for relative temp.
I do prefer the "ice cream gauge" for the freezer.

If ice creme is too soft, make it a bit cooler
If ice creme bends or breaks spoons, make it a bit warmer.

And by golly I really do enjoy keeping an eye on the freezer temperature, as
often as possible.

AMUN


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Ed must have the super turbo model. My sears side by side takes 4
1/2 days to fill the ice bin.

I know, that seems awful slow but that is with it working exactly as
designed. The instruction manual says to be patient.

( My trays are full when they dump. )









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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"Mr Mow Town" wrote in message
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Hello,

Does long cycling times between ice (square cubes) being made and not very
cold water coming from the dispenser indicate the temperature may be too
high in the freezer? Are there other things it could be?

4-5 year old Kitchenaide Superba, side by side.

Thanks



The water dispenser has a reservoir in the refrigerator. The first couple
of ounces are not as cold as they are sitting in the line and no longer
cooled. Mine just came out at 46 degrees

I have the same model, a few years older. The unit was delivered with the
setting in the mid range and I've never had reason to change them. Is this
a recent problem that is taking longer?



Yes, recent. I noticed just yesterday the ice container was very low so
i've had my eye on it. I believe it's only made ice 2-3 times since
yesterday afternoon, and the latest was about 445 minutes ago.

Approximately how long does it usually take between cycles? Seems like
before this if the tray was mostly emptied it would cycle and make ice
right along until the tray was full again.


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Mr Mow Town wrote:
Hello,

Does long cycling times between ice (square cubes) being made and not
very cold water coming from the dispenser indicate the temperature may
be too high in the freezer? Are there other things it could be?

4-5 year old Kitchenaide Superba, side by side.

Thanks


Can you spell "refrigerator thermometer"?

You can get one for as little as three bucks:

http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-p12652656?sourceid=3

Go thee one and use it to see what's going on in both the refrigerator
and the freezer. The scale on it is marked with typical temperature
ranges for both compartments.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

FYI, the way the icemaker in my GE refrigerator/freezer works is that
the ice "cube" dump cycle begins when a thermostat on the mold says it's
cold enough to believe that the water inside it must be frozen.

When that thermostat clicks, a heater is turned on which warms up the
mold so the cubes can be ejected. A shaded pole "push out" motor is
energized at the same time, but that motor is initially stalled by the
cubes being stuck in the mold.

When the mold heats enough so the motor can run and push the cubes out,
it does so.

The motor stops when a cam operated switch tells it to, but in the
process of getting to that point another cam operated switch opens a
solenoid water valve for just long enough to fill the mold with water.

Things stop there and wait until the thermostat on the mold says the
cubes must be frozen again, and the cycle repeats.

A sensor bail looks at the level in the cube bin and stops the cycle
when it gets full.

*********************************

So, a warmer freezer compartment will increase the amount of time it
takes for the water to freeze, lengthening the cycle.

Capiche?

Jeff

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