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My lawnmower burned up
harry k wrote:
On Mar 7, 7:40 am, wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:30:35 -0800 (PST), harry k wrote: On Mar 6, 8:25 am, Deadrat wrote: harry k wrote : On Mar 5, 8:43 pm, Deadrat wrote: Smitty Two wrote innewsrestwhich-6AF8AB.2034 : In article , Deadrat wrote: Smitty Two wrote in news In article , Deadrat wrote: Steve Barker wrote in : Deadrat wrote: richard wrote in : On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:54:45 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote: Zorro the Geek wrote: wrote in message ... I filled the gas on my lawnmower and spilled some gas on it and it was dripping on my lawn. I didnt want the gas to kill my lawn so I quickly put on the gas cap and tossed a match on the mower deck to burn off the gas. Somehow the gas in the tank started on fire too, and my mower exploded and burned up, also burning down my garden shed. I only wanted to burn off that spilled gas and I put the gas cap on tightly. Why did the gas tank explode and burn too? Now my whole lawn is burned up and ruined. I am really upset. I think the gas tank on th mower was defective, an d on Tuesday I am calling my lawyer to sue the manufacturer of the mower. Ralph W. Tuesday is the best day to call lawyers. Hmmm, Fool's way of learning a lesson. Or poor troll. Better call a lawyer who has same IQ as yours, LOL! Most likely troll. Almost surely. People who know, know that gasoline does not explode. Wrong. As usual. Liquid gasoline burns; gasoline vapor mix ed with air explodes. If the latter weren't true, then internal combustion engines couldn't use gasoline. Also that you need a higher temperature than a match to get it to burn at all. Wrong. As usual. A match flame is surprisingly hot, certai nly higher than the temperature at which paper burns, which as we all know is 451F. Matches don't give off much heat since they're so small, but gasoline is highly flammable in the presence of oxygen. Please don't try to confirm this on your own. even an air/fuel mixture of gasoline does NOT explode. It burn s rapidly. This is the reason the internal combustion engines runs and does not explode. you are wrong. I was wrong once. 1967. March. First week. If you'd like to argue that an air/fuel mixture of gasoline does "NOT" explode, then you want semantics, down the hall, first door on the left. This is abuse. Steve is correct, there is no "explosion" involved in the internal combustion engine. That isn't "semantics," that's using the correct word. I love it. This really is the day for irony. It's not "semantics ," the poster says, just using the "correct" word. Well, as long as it isn't semantics. This thread has largely focused on the differences between the two phenomena, so this isn't the time and place to use the terms in a casually interchangeable way. Which two phenomena? Burning and exploding? You don't say. But, please, be sure not to define your terms. We wouldn't want to get into semantics. Let's just say that putting a match to a pool o f gasoline gets you a quantifiably different phenomenon from putting a match to a mixture of oxygen and gasoline vapor. Liquids don't burn, Mr. Rat. When you put a match to a pool of gasoline, you are igniting the vapors emanating from it. Of course, and nothing I wrote says otherwise. When you put a match to a pool of gasoline, the phenomenon you get is the result of the combustion of the vapors from the surface. When you put a match to an enclosed mixture of gasoline vapor and oxygen, you get a different phenomenon. As far as the meaning of the words "semantics," "burn," and "explode," as well as the theory and operation of an internal combustion engine, you're free to do your own research, or defend your own ignorance as you see fit. It's your claim that the words in use are in contradiction to their meanings. Thus the burdens of production and proof rest with you. Your refusal or inability to defend your position is noted. Machs nixt to me. I'm content to just make fun of you, Mr. Semantics, depending, of course, on what I mean by "fun." He has defended his point extremely well. He hasn't defended his point at all. In fact, he hasn't even stated a point other than to say I'm wrong. I may be wrong; I even admitted to being wrong once before. It is you who is way off base. And you continue the tradition, apparently believing that if you simply state something, everyone must take it as gospel. The best you can do is defend your point by claiming gasoline vapors 'explode' in the common useage even though it is incorrect. This is equivalent to listening to someone say after a large meal, "I'm about to burst." and then claiming that the person is incorrect because he really isn't about to burst. They also BURN in an IC engine. If you could see a slowed down video of a gas vapor cloud "exloding" you would see a flame front progressing through it from the point of ignition. So I would see a flame front, presumably exerting great pressure, rapidly expanding from the point of ignition? Imagine that. For your convenience, I'll repeat my claim: quote When you put a match to a pool of gasoline, the phenomenon you get is the result of the combustion of the vapors from the surface. When you put a match to an enclosed mixture of gasoline vapor and oxygen, you get a [quantitatively] different phenomenon. /quote But, by all means, continue to tell me I'm wrong because "common usage is incorrect." After that, you can claim you're not arguing semantics. Harry K- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Okay, tell us, oh wise one, just what is the difference between the combustion of gasoline vapors in open air and in a compressed state? You can check with any engineer you like and you will get the same asnwer - there is none. Harry K Speed of burn and rate of pressure rise. Mostly the latter, since pressure rise in an open space is very low, while in a contained space it is very high. In a combustion chamber of FIXED VOLUME the pressure rise is extremely fast, and detonation can occur (like in an engine running at full throttle and low speed(lugging).) In this case, the end gasses DO explode - very violently I might add.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Otherwise known as "ping" which can destroy an engine in short ordfer. The cause is a secondary ignition point from the planned one. I have been wondering whether that is an 'explosion' or anothe example of 'combustion' gone wrong. I don't know. Harry K It is actually just a second flame front, which collides with the first one to make the 'ping' and resulting extreme cylinder pressures. Still not an explosion. Gasoline cannot 'explode'. It merely burns, and sometimes rapidly. s |
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My lawnmower burned up
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:17:54 -0800 (PST), harry k
wrote: What do you suppose the word explode means? *...to burst forth with sudden violence or noise from internal energy: as a: to undergo a rapid chemical or nuclear reaction with the production of noise, heat, and violent expansion of gases An explosion is merely rapid oxidation or combustion. Igniting a gasoline/air mixture matches the definition of "explosion" perfectly. If you look at a slow-mo of dynamite exploding, you can observe the same flame front you described above. Ever see what happens when dust explodes in a factory?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - This entire discussion with Mr. Rat is basically semantics. Dynamite does not have a flame front. Dust does. Again. TECHNICALLY a gas vapor, contained or not, does not 'explode' although that _is_ the common term. Neither you nor him can seem to get that point. Harry K I guess you'll just have to go through life deliberately uninformed, then. |
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My lawnmower burned up
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:22:06 -0800 (PST), harry k
wrote: I don't know. Harry K Well, at least you got that right! |
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My lawnmower burned up
On Mar 7, 12:22*pm, Steve Barker wrote:
harry k wrote: On Mar 7, 7:40 am, wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:30:35 -0800 (PST), harry k wrote: On Mar 6, 8:25 am, Deadrat wrote: harry k wrote : On Mar 5, 8:43 pm, Deadrat wrote: Smitty Two wrote innewsrestwhich-6AF8AB.2034 : In article , *Deadrat wrote: Smitty Two wrote in news In article , *Deadrat wrote: Steve Barker wrote in news:Qp6dncpYrbJUSDLUnZ2dnUVZ_gyWnZ2d@gi ganews.com: Deadrat wrote: richard wrote in news:qsmuq4ta0c50kjgoca57282v72u3bg83k : On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:54:45 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote: Zorro the Geek wrote: wrote in message news:r9mhc19f1rmnb1psnv0g0jfr6nlvbn ... I filled the gas on my lawnmower and spilled some gas on it and it was dripping on my lawn. *I didnt want the gas to kill my lawn so I quickly put on the gas cap and tossed a match on the mower deck to burn off the gas. *Somehow the gas in the tank started on fire too, and my mower exploded and burned up, also burning down my garden shed. I only wanted to burn off that spilled gas and I put the gas cap on tightly. *Why did the gas tank explode and burn too? Now my whole lawn is burned up and ruined. *I am really upset. *I think the gas tank on th mower was defective, an d on Tuesday I am calling my lawyer to sue the manufacturer of the mower. Ralph W. Tuesday is the best day to call lawyers. Hmmm, Fool's way of learning a lesson. Or poor troll. Better call a lawyer who has same IQ as yours, LOL! Most likely troll. Almost surely. *People who know, know that gasoline does not explode. Wrong. *As usual. *Liquid gasoline burns; gasoline vapor mix ed with air explodes. *If the latter weren't true, then internal combustion engines couldn't use gasoline. Also that you need a higher temperature than a match to get it to burn at all. Wrong. *As usual. *A match flame is surprisingly hot, certai nly higher than the temperature at which paper burns, which as we all know is 451F. *Matches don't give off much heat since they're so small, but gasoline is highly flammable in the presence of oxygen. Please don't try to confirm this on your own. even an air/fuel mixture of gasoline does NOT explode. *It burn s rapidly. *This is the reason the internal combustion engines runs and does not explode. *you are wrong. I was wrong once. 1967. March. First week. If you'd like to argue that an air/fuel mixture of gasoline does "NOT" explode, then you want semantics, down the hall, first door on the left. This is abuse. Steve is correct, there is no "explosion" involved in the internal combustion engine. That isn't "semantics," that's using the correct word. I love it. *This really is the day for irony. *It's not "semantics ," the poster says, just using the "correct" word. Well, as long as it isn't semantics. This thread has largely focused on the differences between the two phenomena, so this isn't the time and place to use the terms in a casually interchangeable way. Which two phenomena? *Burning and exploding? *You don't say. But, please, be sure not to define your terms. *We wouldn't want to get into semantics. *Let's just say that putting a match to a pool o f gasoline gets you a quantifiably different phenomenon from putting a match to a mixture of oxygen and gasoline vapor. Liquids don't burn, Mr. Rat. When you put a match to a pool of gasoline, you are igniting the vapors emanating from it. Of course, and nothing I wrote says otherwise. *When you put a match to a pool of gasoline, the phenomenon you get is the result of the combustion of the vapors from the surface. *When you put a match to an enclosed mixture of gasoline vapor and oxygen, you get a different phenomenon. As far as the meaning of the words "semantics," "burn," and "explode," as well as the theory and operation of an internal combustion engine, you're free to do your own research, or defend your own ignorance as you see fit. It's your claim that the words in use are in contradiction to their meanings. *Thus the burdens of production and proof rest with you. * Your refusal or inability to defend your position is noted. Machs nixt to me. I'm content to just make fun of you, Mr. Semantics, depending, of course, on what I mean by "fun." He has defended his point extremely well. He hasn't defended his point at all. *In fact, he hasn't even stated a point other than to say I'm wrong. *I may be wrong; I even admitted to being wrong once before. It is you who is way off base. And you continue the tradition, apparently believing that if you simply state something, everyone must take it as gospel. The best you can do is defend your point by claiming gasoline vapors 'explode' in the common useage even though it is incorrect. This is equivalent to listening to someone say after a large meal, "I'm about to burst." and then claiming that the person is incorrect because he really isn't about to burst. They also BURN in an IC engine. * If you could see a slowed down video of a gas vapor cloud "exloding" you would see a flame front progressing through it from the point of ignition. So I would see a flame front, presumably exerting great pressure, rapidly expanding from the point of ignition? *Imagine that. For your convenience, I'll repeat my claim: quote When you put a match to a pool of gasoline, the phenomenon you get is the result of the combustion of the vapors from the surface. *When you put a match to an enclosed mixture of gasoline vapor and oxygen, you get a [quantitatively] different phenomenon. /quote But, by all means, continue to tell me I'm wrong because "common usage is incorrect." After that, you can claim you're not arguing semantics. Harry K- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Okay, tell us, oh wise one, just what is the difference between the combustion of gasoline vapors in open air and in a compressed state? You can check with any engineer you like and you will get the same asnwer - there is none. Harry K Speed of burn and rate of pressure rise. Mostly the latter, since pressure rise in an open space is very low, while in a contained space it is very high. In a combustion chamber of FIXED VOLUME the pressure rise is extremely fast, and detonation can occur (like in an engine running at full throttle and low speed(lugging).) In this case, the end gasses DO explode - very violently I might add.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Otherwise known as "ping" which can destroy an engine in short ordfer. *The cause is a secondary ignition point from the planned one. *I have been wondering whether that is an 'explosion' or anothe example of 'combustion' gone wrong. *I don't know. Harry K It is actually just a second flame front, which collides with the first one to make the 'ping' and resulting extreme cylinder pressures. *Still not an explosion. *Gasoline cannot 'explode'. *It merely burns, and sometimes rapidly. s- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Now you shouldn't try to educate the the people who "know what I know and don't confuse me with facts" Harry K |
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My lawnmower burned up
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:22:06 -0800 (PST), harry k
wrote: On Mar 7, 7:40Â*am, wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:30:35 -0800 (PST), harry k wrote: On Mar 6, 8:25Â*am, Deadrat wrote: harry k wrote : On Mar 5, 8:43Â*pm, Deadrat wrote: Smitty Two wrote innewsrestwhich-6AF8AB.2034 : In article , Â*Deadrat wrote: Smitty Two wrote in news In article , Â*Deadrat wrote: Steve Barker wrote in om: Deadrat wrote: richard wrote in m: On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:54:45 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote: Zorro the Geek wrote: wrote in message om... I filled the gas on my lawnmower and spilled some gas on it and it was dripping on my lawn. Â*I didnt want the gas to kill my lawn so I quickly put on the gas cap and tossed a match on the mower deck to burn off the gas. Â*Somehow the gas in the tank started on fire too, and my mower exploded and burned up, also burning down my garden shed. I only wanted to burn off that spilled gas and I put the gas cap on tightly. Â*Why did the gas tank explode and burn too? Now my whole lawn is burned up and ruined. Â*I am really upset. Â*I think the gas tank on th mower was defective, an d on Tuesday I am calling my lawyer to sue the manufacturer of the mower. Ralph W. Tuesday is the best day to call lawyers. Hmmm, Fool's way of learning a lesson. Or poor troll. Better call a lawyer who has same IQ as yours, LOL! Most likely troll. Almost surely. Â*People who know, know that gasoline does not explode. Wrong. Â*As usual. Â*Liquid gasoline burns; gasoline vapor mix ed with air explodes. Â*If the latter weren't true, then internal combustion engines couldn't use gasoline. Also that you need a higher temperature than a match to get it to burn at all. Wrong. Â*As usual. Â*A match flame is surprisingly hot, certai nly higher than the temperature at which paper burns, which as we all know is 451F. Â*Matches don't give off much heat since they're so small, but gasoline is highly flammable in the presence of oxygen. Please don't try to confirm this on your own. even an air/fuel mixture of gasoline does NOT explode. Â*It burn s rapidly. Â*This is the reason the internal combustion engines runs and does not explode. Â*you are wrong. I was wrong once. 1967. March. First week. If you'd like to argue that an air/fuel mixture of gasoline does "NOT" explode, then you want semantics, down the hall, first door on the left. This is abuse. Steve is correct, there is no "explosion" involved in the internal combustion engine. That isn't "semantics," that's using the correct word. I love it. Â*This really is the day for irony. Â*It's not "semantics ," the poster says, just using the "correct" word. Well, as long as it isn't semantics. This thread has largely focused on the differences between the two phenomena, so this isn't the time and place to use the terms in a casually interchangeable way. Which two phenomena? Â*Burning and exploding? Â*You don't say. But, please, be sure not to define your terms. Â*We wouldn't want to get into semantics. Â*Let's just say that putting a match to a pool o f gasoline gets you a quantifiably different phenomenon from putting a match to a mixture of oxygen and gasoline vapor. Liquids don't burn, Mr. Rat. When you put a match to a pool of gasoline, you are igniting the vapors emanating from it. Of course, and nothing I wrote says otherwise. Â*When you put a match to a pool of gasoline, the phenomenon you get is the result of the combustion of the vapors from the surface. Â*When you put a match to an enclosed mixture of gasoline vapor and oxygen, you get a different phenomenon. As far as the meaning of the words "semantics," "burn," and "explode," as well as the theory and operation of an internal combustion engine, you're free to do your own research, or defend your own ignorance as you see fit. It's your claim that the words in use are in contradiction to their meanings. Â*Thus the burdens of production and proof rest with you. Â* Your refusal or inability to defend your position is noted. Machs nixt to me. I'm content to just make fun of you, Mr. Semantics, depending, of course, on what I mean by "fun." He has defended his point extremely well. He hasn't defended his point at all. Â*In fact, he hasn't even stated a point other than to say I'm wrong. Â*I may be wrong; I even admitted to being wrong once before. It is you who is way off base. And you continue the tradition, apparently believing that if you simply state something, everyone must take it as gospel. The best you can do is defend your point by claiming gasoline vapors 'explode' in the common useage even though it is incorrect. This is equivalent to listening to someone say after a large meal, "I'm about to burst." and then claiming that the person is incorrect because he really isn't about to burst. They also BURN in an IC engine. Â* If you could see a slowed down video of a gas vapor cloud "exloding" you would see a flame front progressing through it from the point of ignition. So I would see a flame front, presumably exerting great pressure, rapidly expanding from the point of ignition? Â*Imagine that. For your convenience, I'll repeat my claim: quote When you put a match to a pool of gasoline, the phenomenon you get is the result of the combustion of the vapors from the surface. Â*When you put a match to an enclosed mixture of gasoline vapor and oxygen, you get a [quantitatively] different phenomenon. /quote But, by all means, continue to tell me I'm wrong because "common usage is incorrect." After that, you can claim you're not arguing semantics. Harry K- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Okay, tell us, oh wise one, just what is the difference between the combustion of gasoline vapors in open air and in a compressed state? You can check with any engineer you like and you will get the same asnwer - there is none. Harry K Speed of burn and rate of pressure rise. Mostly the latter, since pressure rise in an open space is very low, while in a contained space it is very high. In a combustion chamber of FIXED VOLUME the pressure rise is extremely fast, and detonation can occur (like in an engine running at full throttle and low speed(lugging).) In this case, the end gasses DO explode - very violently I might add.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Otherwise known as "ping" which can destroy an engine in short ordfer. The cause is a secondary ignition point from the planned one. I have been wondering whether that is an 'explosion' or anothe example of 'combustion' gone wrong. I don't know. Harry K A "ping" can be pre-ignition or detonation. Detonation IS explosion - but not technically of gasoline/oxygen mixture. Detonation occurs when the "end gasses" in the chamber dissassociate forming hydrogen free radicals - which are extremely unstable, and DO explode. By the way, pre-ignition CAN cause detonation, and detonation often does cause pre-ignition - yet they are two totally separate phenonmenons. |
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My lawnmower burned up
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:22:07 -0600, Steve Barker
wrote: harry k wrote: On Mar 7, 7:40 am, wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:30:35 -0800 (PST), harry k wrote: On Mar 6, 8:25 am, Deadrat wrote: harry k wrote : On Mar 5, 8:43 pm, Deadrat wrote: Smitty Two wrote innewsrestwhich-6AF8AB.2034 : In article , Deadrat wrote: Smitty Two wrote in news In article , Deadrat wrote: Steve Barker wrote in : Deadrat wrote: richard wrote in : On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:54:45 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote: Zorro the Geek wrote: wrote in message ... I filled the gas on my lawnmower and spilled some gas on it and it was dripping on my lawn. I didnt want the gas to kill my lawn so I quickly put on the gas cap and tossed a match on the mower deck to burn off the gas. Somehow the gas in the tank started on fire too, and my mower exploded and burned up, also burning down my garden shed. I only wanted to burn off that spilled gas and I put the gas cap on tightly. Why did the gas tank explode and burn too? Now my whole lawn is burned up and ruined. I am really upset. I think the gas tank on th mower was defective, an d on Tuesday I am calling my lawyer to sue the manufacturer of the mower. Ralph W. Tuesday is the best day to call lawyers. Hmmm, Fool's way of learning a lesson. Or poor troll. Better call a lawyer who has same IQ as yours, LOL! Most likely troll. Almost surely. People who know, know that gasoline does not explode. Wrong. As usual. Liquid gasoline burns; gasoline vapor mix ed with air explodes. If the latter weren't true, then internal combustion engines couldn't use gasoline. Also that you need a higher temperature than a match to get it to burn at all. Wrong. As usual. A match flame is surprisingly hot, certai nly higher than the temperature at which paper burns, which as we all know is 451F. Matches don't give off much heat since they're so small, but gasoline is highly flammable in the presence of oxygen. Please don't try to confirm this on your own. even an air/fuel mixture of gasoline does NOT explode. It burn s rapidly. This is the reason the internal combustion engines runs and does not explode. you are wrong. I was wrong once. 1967. March. First week. If you'd like to argue that an air/fuel mixture of gasoline does "NOT" explode, then you want semantics, down the hall, first door on the left. This is abuse. Steve is correct, there is no "explosion" involved in the internal combustion engine. That isn't "semantics," that's using the correct word. I love it. This really is the day for irony. It's not "semantics ," the poster says, just using the "correct" word. Well, as long as it isn't semantics. This thread has largely focused on the differences between the two phenomena, so this isn't the time and place to use the terms in a casually interchangeable way. Which two phenomena? Burning and exploding? You don't say. But, please, be sure not to define your terms. We wouldn't want to get into semantics. Let's just say that putting a match to a pool o f gasoline gets you a quantifiably different phenomenon from putting a match to a mixture of oxygen and gasoline vapor. Liquids don't burn, Mr. Rat. When you put a match to a pool of gasoline, you are igniting the vapors emanating from it. Of course, and nothing I wrote says otherwise. When you put a match to a pool of gasoline, the phenomenon you get is the result of the combustion of the vapors from the surface. When you put a match to an enclosed mixture of gasoline vapor and oxygen, you get a different phenomenon. As far as the meaning of the words "semantics," "burn," and "explode," as well as the theory and operation of an internal combustion engine, you're free to do your own research, or defend your own ignorance as you see fit. It's your claim that the words in use are in contradiction to their meanings. Thus the burdens of production and proof rest with you. Your refusal or inability to defend your position is noted. Machs nixt to me. I'm content to just make fun of you, Mr. Semantics, depending, of course, on what I mean by "fun." He has defended his point extremely well. He hasn't defended his point at all. In fact, he hasn't even stated a point other than to say I'm wrong. I may be wrong; I even admitted to being wrong once before. It is you who is way off base. And you continue the tradition, apparently believing that if you simply state something, everyone must take it as gospel. The best you can do is defend your point by claiming gasoline vapors 'explode' in the common useage even though it is incorrect. This is equivalent to listening to someone say after a large meal, "I'm about to burst." and then claiming that the person is incorrect because he really isn't about to burst. They also BURN in an IC engine. If you could see a slowed down video of a gas vapor cloud "exloding" you would see a flame front progressing through it from the point of ignition. So I would see a flame front, presumably exerting great pressure, rapidly expanding from the point of ignition? Imagine that. For your convenience, I'll repeat my claim: quote When you put a match to a pool of gasoline, the phenomenon you get is the result of the combustion of the vapors from the surface. When you put a match to an enclosed mixture of gasoline vapor and oxygen, you get a [quantitatively] different phenomenon. /quote But, by all means, continue to tell me I'm wrong because "common usage is incorrect." After that, you can claim you're not arguing semantics. Harry K- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Okay, tell us, oh wise one, just what is the difference between the combustion of gasoline vapors in open air and in a compressed state? You can check with any engineer you like and you will get the same asnwer - there is none. Harry K Speed of burn and rate of pressure rise. Mostly the latter, since pressure rise in an open space is very low, while in a contained space it is very high. In a combustion chamber of FIXED VOLUME the pressure rise is extremely fast, and detonation can occur (like in an engine running at full throttle and low speed(lugging).) In this case, the end gasses DO explode - very violently I might add.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Otherwise known as "ping" which can destroy an engine in short ordfer. The cause is a secondary ignition point from the planned one. I have been wondering whether that is an 'explosion' or anothe example of 'combustion' gone wrong. I don't know. Harry K It is actually just a second flame front, which collides with the first one to make the 'ping' and resulting extreme cylinder pressures. Still not an explosion. Gasoline cannot 'explode'. It merely burns, and sometimes rapidly. s Your understanding of detonation in an engine is faulty and car from complete. It is FAR more than two flame fronts colliding.Far more complex, and DEFINITELY involves "explosion" - on the same order as C4. |
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