I'm running cat5e to a workshop in my backyard to use for a phone.

I have the following questions:

1. I'm going to install one end of the cable directly into the NID. Is this
acceptable...do I piggy back (place over the top) of the existing wires
inside the box ??

2. What color wires do I use for this installation ??

3. How do I transition the workshop end of the cable into a wall plate that
will accept the smaller phone jack ??

Thanks in advance....

"Ray" wrote in message
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I'm running cat5e to a workshop in my backyard to use for a phone.

I have the following questions:

1. I'm going to install one end of the cable directly into the NID. Is
this
acceptable...do I piggy back (place over the top) of the existing wires
inside the box ??

2. What color wires do I use for this installation ??

3. How do I transition the workshop end of the cable into a wall plate
that
will accept the smaller phone jack ??

Thanks in advance....


As both 568a or 568b have the blue pair on pins 4 & 5, if you just wire per
cat5 you will be fine because the smaller phone plug RJ11 fits just fine
into an RJ45 (cat5) jack.

FWIW, I run data and telephone nearly 500 ft in the same cable, as the blue
pair and pins 4&5 aren't used in 10BaseT data transmission.

SEE:

http://www.bluemax.net/techtips/netw...00TX/colorcode
standards.htm

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SVL

Ray wrote:
I'm running cat5e to a workshop in my backyard to use for a phone.

I have the following questions:

1. I'm going to install one end of the cable directly into the NID.
Is this acceptable...do I piggy back (place over the top) of the
existing wires inside the box ??

2. What color wires do I use for this installation ??

3. How do I transition the workshop end of the cable into a wall
plate that will accept the smaller phone jack ??

Thanks in advance....

Have you considered just using a cordless phone?

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

"Ray" wrote in message
news:cEvoe.3342$mC.1263@okepread07...
I'm running cat5e to a workshop in my backyard to use for a phone.

I have the following questions:

1. I'm going to install one end of the cable directly into the NID. Is
this
acceptable...do I piggy back (place over the top) of the existing wires
inside the box ??

2. What color wires do I use for this installation ??

3. How do I transition the workshop end of the cable into a wall plate
that
will accept the smaller phone jack ??

Thanks in advance....



Two words: CORDLESS PHONE

What ever happened to "Christmas tree, bumble bee"? for color
conventions?

On 5 Jun 2005 07:49:24 -0700, wrote:
What ever happened to "Christmas tree, bumble bee"? for color

Those colors are not standard in "category" rated cables.

sdb

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I don't know what "Christmas tree, bumble bee"
stands for. However, the standard telephone
wiring is blue, orange, green, brown, slate. Some
pairs are blue/white (blue with white bands)
white/blue .... white being the 1st secondary
color. Some cables have pairs that are blue/1white
and blue/2 white (1 band or 2 bands). The
secondary color is white, red, black, yellow,
violet.
As for 4 wire telephone cables, solitd red and
solid green is the 1st pair and yellow and black is
the 2nd. The so called tip side of the line is
the green wire and the ring side of the line is red
(get it, Red, Ring). On an open line, the Tip
side will be at ground and the Ring side will be at
-48 volts .... usually.

wrote:
What ever happened to "Christmas tree, bumble bee"? for color
conventions?

Perhaps I am dating myself.... traditional phone lines were colored red
& green (Christmas tree)
and yellow and black (bumble bee). Has been that way for ages.....

Works for me. I'm old enough to know that one. Red, Ring.

That old four color stuff, still works nicely.

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Christopher A. Young
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What ever happened to "Christmas tree, bumble bee"? for color
conventions?

Guess yer not old enough?

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Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com


"Art Todesco" wrote in message
news I don't know what "Christmas tree, bumble bee"
stands for. However, the standard telephone
wiring is blue, orange, green, brown, slate. Some
pairs are blue/white (blue with white bands)
white/blue .... white being the 1st secondary
color. Some cables have pairs that are blue/1white
and blue/2 white (1 band or 2 bands). The
secondary color is white, red, black, yellow,
violet.
As for 4 wire telephone cables, solitd red and
solid green is the 1st pair and yellow and black is
the 2nd. The so called tip side of the line is
the green wire and the ring side of the line is red
(get it, Red, Ring). On an open line, the Tip
side will be at ground and the Ring side will be at
-48 volts .... usually.

wrote:
What ever happened to "Christmas tree, bumble bee"? for color
conventions?

Or how about a wireless network? Just plug the wireless router into an
existing network hub and configure it using MAC filtering

On 5 Jun 2005 11:09:32 -0700, wrote:
Perhaps I am dating myself....

Yup.

traditional phone lines were colored red
& green (Christmas tree)
and yellow and black (bumble bee). Has been that way for ages.....

And many years ago phone installations started using more than 2 or 4
wires and so other colors were standardized for 3 pair, 4 pair, and even
24 pair and bigger cables.

30 years ago my house was wired with 3 pair category-III cable. Some
time in the past 10-15 years a third line was added for an 800 number
into the home office. That work was done by US West, using the cheap 2
pair bumblebee cable. When I moved in, I tried to connect that wire to
my two phone lines (blue and orange pairs to r/g and y/b respectively).
I discovered a LOT of cross-talk between lines due to that cheap wire.
I had to discontinue using it, but the much older cat-3 is fine. (As is
the cat-5 I've run.)

sdb
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"Ignoramus6998" wrote in message
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On 5 Jun 2005 20:40:04 -0700,
wrote:

Or how about a wireless network? Just plug the wireless router into
an existing network hub and configure it using MAC filtering


We have both wireless and cable based connections in our house.
Laptops work through wireless, desktop computers are permanently
wired.

Practically, wireless is nice and it works most of the time, but it is
not nearly as reliable as ethernet and real throughput does not
even compare.

We have a relatively modern 801.11g routers and cards etc, so it is
not the case of me using antiquated equipment.



I talked to the Uniden rep at Consumer Electronics Show. We had installed
their booth. I asked him to give me an honest answer to the question, "Are
wireless systems any good?"

He said if there isn't anything between the sending units, they worked just
okay. If there were walls, pipes, wiring, masonry, or anything else, their
effectiveness was diminished. He said in his opinion they were just more
"stuff" for the gearhead.

Steve

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"Ignoramus6998" wrote in message
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On 5 Jun 2005 20:40:04 -0700,
wrote:

Or how about a wireless network? Just plug the wireless router into
an existing network hub and configure it using MAC filtering


We have both wireless and cable based connections in our house.
Laptops work through wireless, desktop computers are permanently
wired.

Practically, wireless is nice and it works most of the time, but it is
not nearly as reliable as ethernet and real throughput does not
even compare.

We have a relatively modern 801.11g routers and cards etc, so it is
not the case of me using antiquated equipment.



I talked to the Uniden rep at Consumer Electronics Show. We had installed
their booth. I asked him to give me an honest answer to the question,
"Are
wireless systems any good?"

He said if there isn't anything between the sending units, they worked
just
okay. If there were walls, pipes, wiring, masonry, or anything else,
their
effectiveness was diminished. He said in his opinion they were just more
"stuff" for the gearhead.


Definately not gonna pass through stucco or metal siding and on into a
detached workshop.

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SVL