I received an estimate today from a waterproof company regarding a moisture
seepage issue, and one of the things this person did was bring a hand-held
"water detector" with two metal prongs. He pressed the prongs of the device
against the cinderblocks and it started making beeping noises to indicate
that there is currently "water in the wall". Is this device a gimmick or is
it a legitimate means of determining that a wall "has water in it." When I
tried the device on a rock, which was obviously dry, the device did not go
off. Likely the device was detecting some moisture but I suspect that is
programmed to be hyper-sensitive to any degree of moisture.

Granted, I don't doubt that my wall has a moisture seepage issue during
rainy weather (or possibly if the sprinklers were on that day). I'm just
wondering if the device itself has any real value in determining the extent
of the problem, or is this just a "stage prop" for them to be able to say
"AHA, you do, in fact have a problem here, because this device says so".

J.

jay wrote:

I received an estimate today from a waterproof company regarding a moisture
seepage issue, and one of the things this person did was bring a hand-held
"water detector" with two metal prongs. He pressed the prongs of the device
against the cinderblocks and it started making beeping noises to indicate
that there is currently "water in the wall". Is this device a gimmick or is
it a legitimate means of determining that a wall "has water in it." When I
tried the device on a rock, which was obviously dry, the device did not go
off. Likely the device was detecting some moisture but I suspect that is
programmed to be hyper-sensitive to any degree of moisture.

Granted, I don't doubt that my wall has a moisture seepage issue during
rainy weather (or possibly if the sprinklers were on that day). I'm just
wondering if the device itself has any real value in determining the extent
of the problem, or is this just a "stage prop" for them to be able to say
"AHA, you do, in fact have a problem here, because this device says so".

J.



It's a legit tool. Many home inspectors carry them
to locate dampness sources in drywall, concrete, wood, etc.

http://testproducts.com/safecart/ind...?source=Google
for some varieties.

Interpreting results in a concrete block wall
can be tricky since almost all basement walls will
have some moisture.

Jim

It is a legitimate tool. Mine is called a wood moisture meter. It has
pins and a pinless mode that detects reflection of low frequency radio
waves to find moisture without marking walls and floors. Mine cost
about $500.00 and measures wood moisture from 6% to 99%. 100% wood
moisture means the wood has as much water as wood (50/50). I have seen
meters that cost from $200 to $1,000, depending on the features and
sensitivity. Some are calibrated only for wood, some are also
calibrated for masonry.

Stretch

Thanks.

By the way, funny, but this person, assuming I heard him correctly, at one
point, told me that he guesses that my wall probably has 200 gallons worth
of water trapped within it. He's not claiming that the meter tells him
that. Is there any reason to estimate that a cinderblock wall (45 feet
long) could really be holding that much water? I don't doubt that there is
moisture in the wall. I just doubt that we're talking huge quantities of
water. Could this really be true, or a bunch of hype? (hasn't rained for a
week or two, and I've never had any puddles on the basement floor, yet)

J.

Interpreting results in a concrete block wall
can be tricky since almost all basement walls will
have some moisture.

Jay, It depends on the area and thickness of the wall and the
percentage of moisture. Then do the calculations. 8.33 pounds per
gallon of watter at 70 degrees F.

Stretch

In article fkyge.319$PH3.62@trndny06, "jay" wrote:

By the way, funny, but this person, assuming I heard him correctly, at one
point, told me that he guesses that my wall probably has 200 gallons worth
of water trapped within it. He's not claiming that the meter tells him
that. Is there any reason to estimate that a cinderblock wall (45 feet
long) could really be holding that much water?

That wall consists of approximately 400 concrete blocks (assuming the standard
8x8x16 block, and an 8-foot-high wall). Is there, on average, half a gallon of
water in each one? I kinda doubt it....

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

the water gets trapped in the cavities in the cinderblocks

assumming you have a french drain and sump pump....or another way to
deal with the water ....

drill 2 small holes at the bottom of the wall of each block and the
water will drain out

then paint the blocks with dry lock paint.

the wall will stay dry after that but you need a sump pump and french
drain to deal with the water that will drain from the holes that you
drilled

Mark