In another house I own, two weeks ago, a painter was painting the textured
ceilings, and pointed out where there was a 5 inch bubble that had extended
downward from the surface, supposedly after Kilz 2 primer was applied. It
may have been there before, but I'm not sure. I had him skip the ceiling
painting till I had a chance to evaluate a repair. Yesterday I figured, what
the hell, I'll try something different as to the method of repair. Taking a
utility knife, I cut a circle around the distended area, finding my way by
tapping lightly with my fingertip for loose areas. The entire chunk of
textured ceiling dropped right out into the palm of my hand, unbroken.
Lightly sanded the exposed area, no feathering, then applied a really heavy
coat of Kilz 2 to the area, pulling the brush outward radially from the
center of the area, to help rebond any looseness at the cut edge area. Took
the removed patch and pressed it into place with the palm of my hand,
aligning cut edges carefully. The excess Kilz oozed out at the joint of
course, and I blotted it up as it appeared, all the while applying pressure
continually and gradually to the patch. I then used a brush to clean up the
joint line, using light swishing motion. The patched area has now dried and
completely disappeared into the rest of the ceiling. I did this on a lark,
as I believe in trying new and various techniques, as long as it belongs to
me, and the job is facing you anyway. This is how you learn new methods. I
started to try injecting inside the bubble with a hypodermic needle, but
chose this method instead, due to possibly trapping air underneath. .
I'll wait at least another week before painting this area, to allow
thorough drying. For anyone interested, I'll post after painting to let you
know how it works out. It was a hell of a lot cheaper and easier than trying
to reblend new material into the area to match properly. I was pleasantly
surprised how well it all worked.

RJ

so the only thing holding the patch in is the primer?

I suppose that might work, for a while, maybe for the life of the house
since it's not likely to get bumped into up there on the ceiling but this
isn't what I'd call a recommended method for patching drywall.

The correct way would be to use any of the techniques for patching drywall
cited in a thread that appeared a few days ago, with the piece of textured
wallboard that fell out if it's in reasonable shape. Depending on where the
hole is, how big it is, the condition of the patch, etc. etc., I'd decide on
whether or not to to try and add some texture to it to match the surrounding
area. Sounds like in this case it's probably not worth the trouble.

hope your method continues to work
ml

I got back over to the house today and checked out the replaced texture
patch by tapping on the area I thought it was in. Trouble was, it blends so
well that I could not for certain pinpoint it's exact location. I left a
ladder in position, so I know I had to be all over it. There was no drywall
damage in this case. The texture area just blistered away from the drywall
surface. If you'll think about it, the only thing holding up a ceiling
texture is it's adhesion to the substrate surface, so I think the heavy
layer of Kilz will work just fine. I could tell it was attaching well by the
suctioning feel of it when pressing it into place, I've done standard repair
several times in the past, and in this particular case, I think this was
easier and better. Time will, of course, tell all. After checking it today,
I feel very confident of it doing well. Now, in the 20 X 24 bedroom, I think
a ceiling scraping will be in order to take care of that one.

RJ

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so the only thing holding the patch in is the primer?

I suppose that might work, for a while, maybe for the life of the house
since it's not likely to get bumped into up there on the ceiling but this
isn't what I'd call a recommended method for patching drywall.

The correct way would be to use any of the techniques for patching drywall
cited in a thread that appeared a few days ago, with the piece of textured
wallboard that fell out if it's in reasonable shape. Depending on where
the
hole is, how big it is, the condition of the patch, etc. etc., I'd decide
on
whether or not to to try and add some texture to it to match the
surrounding
area. Sounds like in this case it's probably not worth the trouble.

hope your method continues to work
ml