Yup.

Just give me more of that "It's good to be an American" crap.

What a ****ed up country you've created for yourselves.

Read the following and be ashamed for what you've become.

=========================

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/...ly-foreclosed/

TWENTYNINE PALMS (CBSLA.com) — The owners of a modest home near
Twentynine Palms lost their cherished possessions after a bank
mistakenly foreclosed their residence.

A crew broke into Alvin and Pat Tjosaas’ desert home and took everything
after being directed by Wells Fargo to secure the structure.

The couple, however, didn’t have a mortgage on the home.

Alvin said the deputy sheriff said, “Good news, we know who took (your
possessions)…Wells Fargo. Bad news, your stuff is all gone.”

All the married couple has now are three generations of memories.

Alvin, a retired mason, built the home with his father when he was a
teenager.

“I know every inch, every rock…my mom mixed all the cement by hand,” he
said.

Alvin and his wife would later bring their six children to their desert
oasis.

“My little kids (would) come out here and their dresses were the same
color as the wildflowers,” said Alvin.

A spokesman for Wells Fargo released a statement apologizing to the
couple.

“We are deeply sorry for the very personal losses the Tjosaas family
suffered as a result of their home being mistakenly secured,” said
Alfredo Padilla. “We are moving quickly to reach out to the family to
resolve this unfortunate situation in an attempt to right this wrong.”

Alvin and Pat remain distraught.

“When you put your heart into something…it makes me real sad. I’m just
glad I have my sweetheart. We’ve been together a long time,” said Alvin.

On Sep 7, 3:52*am, Wells Fargo wrote:
Yup.

Just give me more of that "It's good to be an American" crap.

What a ****ed up country you've created for yourselves.

Read the following and be ashamed for what you've become.

=========================

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/...ossessions-aft...

TWENTYNINE PALMS (CBSLA.com) — *The owners of a modest home near
Twentynine Palms lost their cherished possessions after a bank
mistakenly foreclosed their residence.

A crew broke into Alvin and Pat Tjosaas’ desert home and took everything
after being directed by Wells Fargo to secure the structure.

The couple, however, didn’t have a mortgage on the home.

Alvin said the deputy sheriff said, “Good news, we know who took (your
possessions)…Wells Fargo. Bad news, your stuff is all gone.”

All the married couple has now are three generations of memories.

Alvin, a retired mason, built the home with his father when he was a
teenager.

“I know every inch, every rock…my mom mixed all the cement by hand,” he
said.

Alvin and his wife would later bring their six children to their desert
oasis.

“My little kids (would) come out here and their dresses were the same
color as the wildflowers,” said Alvin.

A spokesman for Wells Fargo released a statement apologizing to the
couple.

“We are deeply sorry for the very personal losses the Tjosaas family
suffered as a result of their home being mistakenly secured,” said
Alfredo Padilla. “We are moving quickly to reach out to the family to
resolve this unfortunate situation in an attempt to right this wrong.”

Alvin and Pat remain distraught.

“When you put your heart into something…it makes me real sad. I’m just
glad I have my sweetheart. We’ve been together a long time,” said Alvin.

America is OK if you're rich.
Everyone else is just a serf. To be robbed by the rich.

In article , Wells Fargo wrote:

A crew broke into Alvin and Pat Tjosaas’ desert home and took everything
after being directed by Wells Fargo to secure the structure.

The couple, however, didn’t have a mortgage on the home.

So, there's no connection between the robbers and the victims, just like
any other home robbery. If the robbers had not been able to hide behind
the corporate veil they would have been arrested, charged, and possibly
eventually spend a little time in prison. It's good to be The
Corporation.

m

Wells Fargo wrote:
Yup.

Just give me more of that "It's good to be an American" crap.

What a ****ed up country you've created for yourselves.

Read the following and be ashamed for what you've become.

=========================

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/...ly-foreclosed/

TWENTYNINE PALMS (CBSLA.com) - The owners of a modest home near
Twentynine Palms lost their cherished possessions after a bank
mistakenly foreclosed their residence.


Well, I, uh, don't think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because
of a single slip-up...

On 9/7/2012 5:25 AM, HeyBub wrote:
Wells Fargo wrote:
Yup.

Just give me more of that "It's good to be an American" crap.

What a ****ed up country you've created for yourselves.

Read the following and be ashamed for what you've become.

=========================

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/...ly-foreclosed/

TWENTYNINE PALMS (CBSLA.com) - The owners of a modest home near
Twentynine Palms lost their cherished possessions after a bank
mistakenly foreclosed their residence.


Well, I, uh, don't think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because
of a single slip-up...


The population of The U.S. is now around 315 million and if .1% screw up
and do something stupid, our cousins in "smaller" countries seem to
believe all Americans are screw-ups. I imagine their concept of scale
is a bit distorted not to mention they're quite judgmental. O_o

TDD

On 9/6/2012 9:52 PM, Wells Fargo wrote:
Yup.

Just give me more of that "It's good to be an American" crap.

What a ****ed up country you've created for yourselves.

Read the following and be ashamed for what you've become.

=========================

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/...ly-foreclosed/

TWENTYNINE PALMS (CBSLA.com) — The owners of a modest home near
Twentynine Palms lost their cherished possessions after a bank
mistakenly foreclosed their residence.

A crew broke into Alvin and Pat Tjosaas’ desert home and took everything
after being directed by Wells Fargo to secure the structure.

The couple, however, didn’t have a mortgage on the home.

Alvin said the deputy sheriff said, “Good news, we know who took (your
possessions)…Wells Fargo. Bad news, your stuff is all gone.”

All the married couple has now are three generations of memories.

Alvin, a retired mason, built the home with his father when he was a
teenager.

“I know every inch, every rock…my mom mixed all the cement by hand,” he
said.

Alvin and his wife would later bring their six children to their desert
oasis.

“My little kids (would) come out here and their dresses were the same
color as the wildflowers,” said Alvin.

A spokesman for Wells Fargo released a statement apologizing to the
couple.

“We are deeply sorry for the very personal losses the Tjosaas family
suffered as a result of their home being mistakenly secured,” said
Alfredo Padilla. “We are moving quickly to reach out to the family to
resolve this unfortunate situation in an attempt to right this wrong.”

Alvin and Pat remain distraught.

“When you put your heart into something…it makes me real sad. I’m just
glad I have my sweetheart. We’ve been together a long time,” said Alvin.


That little mistake by Wells Fargo Bank is going to cost the bank a
great deal of money. In another country, the couple who's property
was stolen might not be compensated very much if at all. O_o

TDD

Wells Fargo wrote:
Yup.

Just give me more of that "It's good to be an American" crap.

What a ****ed up country you've created for yourselves.

Read the following and be ashamed for what you've become.
Hi,
When you say it's Does it mean "It is" or "It was"?
So it depends.

In article , Wells Fargo wrote:

TWENTYNINE PALMS (CBSLA.com) — The owners of a modest home near
Twentynine Palms lost their cherished possessions after a bank
mistakenly foreclosed their residence.

A crew broke into Alvin and Pat Tjosaas’ desert home and took everything
after being directed by Wells Fargo to secure the structure.

The couple, however, didn’t have a mortgage on the home.

just like you terrorists to see this as a negative. I don't understand why they
can't retrieve their possessions and the loss is troubling, but after they get
done reaching a settlement with Wells Fargo, not only will they once again be
back in their home (it could never be sold to anyone else legally) they will
become what amounts to a very strong minority owner of the bank

The Daring Dufas used improper usenet message composition style by
unnecessarily full-quoting:

That little mistake by Wells Fargo Bank is going to cost the bank a
great deal of money. In another country, the couple who's property
was stolen might not be compensated very much if at all. O_o

What a maroon you are if you believe that.

Your US Banksters probably have a law on the books protecting them
against being prosecuted for this sort of theivery (they certainly do
for other types of theivery they perform on you serfs on a daily basis).

Frank wrote:

(...)

Hey numb nuts.

You should see how the abortion of a quote-job you posted looks like on
a real news reader.

How on earth did you botch this?

You're on that "nothing says I'm a dork more than" google gropes. How
did you manage to mangle your stupid-ass full-quoting job on google
gropes?

Of course in the US these folks will sue the bank and get at least
10 times the worth of what they lost plus.

You believe that if it makes you sleep better at night.

The reality is this is a bank we're talking about. Tons of money behind
them, as well as years of lobbying for all sorts of laws in their favor
that you had no idea existed.

The bank will give the home owners a new toaster and a kick in the ass.
And that's if the home owners are lucky.

On 9/7/2012 7:39 PM, Wells Fargo wrote:
The Daring Dufas used improper usenet message composition style by
unnecessarily full-quoting:

That little mistake by Wells Fargo Bank is going to cost the bank a
great deal of money. In another country, the couple who's property
was stolen might not be compensated very much if at all. O_o

What a maroon you are if you believe that.

Your US Banksters probably have a law on the books protecting them
against being prosecuted for this sort of theivery (they certainly do
for other types of theivery they perform on you serfs on a daily basis).


Absolutely not you moron, the people working for the bank broke more
than one law. It's a given that there will be civil prosecution but
I'm not a lawyer or legal expert so I've no idea what criminal sanctions
can be pursued and against whom. There is a little thing called "intent"
and it may turn out that the bank employee responsible for the cluster
coitus is just an incompetent pile of excreta. I can't comment on the
variety of human responsible but with corporations having to deal with
Politically Correct hiring practices and promotions, the idiot bank
employee was more than likely hired after HR rejected someone with a
much higher IQ. O_o

TDD

In Wells Fargo wrote:

Your US Banksters probably have a law on the books

Probably? Why don't you look into that and get back to us with what you
find.

--
St. Paul, MN

On Sep 6, 7:52*pm, Wells Fargo wrote:
Yup.

Just give me more of that "It's good to be an American" crap.

What a ****ed up country you've created for yourselves.

Read the following and be ashamed for what you've become.

=========================

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/...ossessions-aft...

TWENTYNINE PALMS (CBSLA.com) — *The owners of a modest home near
Twentynine Palms lost their cherished possessions after a bank
mistakenly foreclosed their residence.

A crew broke into Alvin and Pat Tjosaas’ desert home and took everything
after being directed by Wells Fargo to secure the structure.

The couple, however, didn’t have a mortgage on the home.

Alvin said the deputy sheriff said, “Good news, we know who took (your
possessions)…Wells Fargo. Bad news, your stuff is all gone.”

All the married couple has now are three generations of memories.

Alvin, a retired mason, built the home with his father when he was a
teenager.

“I know every inch, every rock…my mom mixed all the cement by hand,” he
said.

Alvin and his wife would later bring their six children to their desert
oasis.

“My little kids (would) come out here and their dresses were the same
color as the wildflowers,” said Alvin.

A spokesman for Wells Fargo released a statement apologizing to the
couple.

“We are deeply sorry for the very personal losses the Tjosaas family
suffered as a result of their home being mistakenly secured,” said
Alfredo Padilla. “We are moving quickly to reach out to the family to
resolve this unfortunate situation in an attempt to right this wrong.”

Alvin and Pat remain distraught.

“When you put your heart into something…it makes me real sad. I’m just
glad I have my sweetheart. We’ve been together a long time,” said Alvin.

Yeah... And Wells Fargo have been kissing up to the Chinese courting
them to open bank accounts with Wells Fargo. WF have been putting up
giant ads on billboards in many parts of the US where the Chinese are
concentrated. Take a look at this blog: http://doubletwenty.wordpress.com/

In article ,
The Daring Dufas wrote:

On 9/7/2012 7:39 PM, Wells Fargo wrote:
The Daring Dufas used improper usenet message composition style by
unnecessarily full-quoting:

That little mistake by Wells Fargo Bank is going to cost the bank a
great deal of money. In another country, the couple who's property
was stolen might not be compensated very much if at all. O_o

What a maroon you are if you believe that.

Your US Banksters probably have a law on the books protecting them
against being prosecuted for this sort of theivery (they certainly do
for other types of theivery they perform on you serfs on a daily basis).


Absolutely not you moron, the people working for the bank broke more
than one law. It's a given that there will be civil prosecution but
I'm not a lawyer or legal expert so I've no idea what criminal sanctions
can be pursued and against whom. There is a little thing called "intent"
and it may turn out that the bank employee responsible for the cluster
coitus is just an incompetent pile of excreta. I can't comment on the
variety of human responsible but with corporations having to deal with
Politically Correct hiring practices and promotions, the idiot bank
employee was more than likely hired after HR rejected someone with a
much higher IQ. O_o

TDD

yes because any excuse for breaking the law is more easily put on those poor
innocent sods who were hired for political purposes...that being the only reason
they are hired and promoted

On 07 Sep 2012 05:42:11 GMT, (Fake ID) wrote:

In article , Wells Fargo wrote:

A crew broke into Alvin and Pat Tjosaas’ desert home and took everything
after being directed by Wells Fargo to secure the structure.

The couple, however, didn’t have a mortgage on the home.

So, there's no connection between the robbers and the victims, just like
any other home robbery. If the robbers had not been able to hide behind
the corporate veil they would have been arrested, charged, and possibly
eventually spend a little time in prison. It's good to be The
Corporation.

m

that is exactly why I cannot understand how the Supreme Court could
decide the "corporations are people". I've never seen a corporation
get put in jail for things they do that are far worse then what
individuals do who are sentenced to jail (put out of business) every
day of the week.

In article ,
Ashton Crusher wrote:

that is exactly why I cannot understand how the Supreme Court could
decide the "corporations are people". I've never seen a corporation
get put in jail for things they do that are far worse then what
individuals do who are sentenced to jail (put out of business) every
day of the week.

Corp legal personhood goes back all the way to the start of the US..
and even back to Jolly Old England. Corps get sued all the time for
various things. That is only because of corporate legal person hood. The
ONLY reason the New York Times gets first amendment protection is
because of the idea corporate personhood. Executives have gone to jail
for their actions as corporate officers and directors (Adelphia Cable
for instance). Corporations have been fined for breaking laws. That is
only possible because of the idea of corporate personhood.
--
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late
to work within the system, but too early to shoot
the *******s."-- Claire Wolfe

On Sep 14, 2:37*pm, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,
*Ashton Crusher wrote:

that is exactly why I cannot understand how the Supreme Court could
decide the "corporations are people". *I've never seen a corporation
get put in jail for things they do that are far worse then what
individuals do who are sentenced to jail (put out of business) every
day of the week.

* *Corp legal personhood goes back all the way to the start of the US...
and even back to Jolly Old England. Corps get sued all the time for
various things. That is only because of corporate legal person hood. The
ONLY reason the New York Times gets first amendment protection is
because of the idea corporate personhood. Executives have gone to jail
for their actions as corporate officers and directors (Adelphia Cable
for instance). Corporations have been fined for breaking laws. That is
only possible because of the idea of corporate personhood.


In England we have personal liabilty. ie individuals in a corporation
can be sued (and put in jail) for corporate decisions.
This especially applies with Health and Safety issues. Eg is someone
falls off a faulty ladder.

On 9/7/2012 8:46 PM, Wells Fargo wrote:
Frank wrote:

(...)

Hey numb nuts.

You should see how the abortion of a quote-job you posted looks like on
a real news reader.

How on earth did you botch this?

You're on that "nothing says I'm a dork more than" google gropes. How
did you manage to mangle your stupid-ass full-quoting job on google
gropes?

Of course in the US these folks will sue the bank and get at least
10 times the worth of what they lost plus.

You believe that if it makes you sleep better at night.

The reality is this is a bank we're talking about. Tons of money behind
them, as well as years of lobbying for all sorts of laws in their favor
that you had no idea existed.

The bank will give the home owners a new toaster and a kick in the ass.
And that's if the home owners are lucky.


Talk about somebody that's screwed up.
All I did was bottom post to comments.
Read your own comments. You'll probably discover the real numb nuts

On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:37:03 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

In article ,
Ashton Crusher wrote:

that is exactly why I cannot understand how the Supreme Court could
decide the "corporations are people". I've never seen a corporation
get put in jail for things they do that are far worse then what
individuals do who are sentenced to jail (put out of business) every
day of the week.

Corp legal personhood goes back all the way to the start of the US..
and even back to Jolly Old England. Corps get sued all the time for
various things. That is only because of corporate legal person hood. The
ONLY reason the New York Times gets first amendment protection is
because of the idea corporate personhood. Executives have gone to jail
for their actions as corporate officers and directors (Adelphia Cable
for instance). Corporations have been fined for breaking laws. That is
only possible because of the idea of corporate personhood.


That's true but it's not axiomatic that in order to confer *some*
personhood attributes to a corp one must confer *all*. The
constitution makes no provision to limit the totally of rights
accorded to every citizen when it comes to children yet the courts
rule all the time that children are NOT entitled to the exact same
bundle of rights as non-children. They could have done the same in
the case of corporations and they still can should another case come
before them and they so choose.