Hi,


I tried the phonebook, but to no avail. Is there a list where one can
find HOAs? I'm in Houston, TX.


Thanks.

Hi,


I tried the phonebook, but to no avail. Is there a list where one can
find HOAs? I'm in Houston, TX.


Thanks.


I'm in Houston too (well Pearland). I'd go to Google and type in the name
of your subdivison + Home Owners Association.

I doubt if there's a list that covers all HOA's in Houston.

I tried the phonebook, but to no avail. Is there a list where one can
find HOAs? I'm in Houston, TX.


Thanks.

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Why in the world would you want to?
HOA s are the Nazis of our time in most (but not all) cases. Probably
one out of 50 is worthy.

Actually most HOAs are managed by management companies hired by the
HOA..
A few are self managed by the "elected" HOA.

Most mgmt companies and their crooked "foreclosure" lawyers and many of
the vendors who have sprung up in this vilest of cottage industries are
members of a huge and powerful lobby group that has polluted the state
legislatures with laws that absolutely defy the "property rights" you
just thought the Constitution of the USA provided for you. In Texas you
would be very mistaken, as there is almost NO Due Process for the
actual homeowner.

Don't ever think the Texas courts are your friend in cases against
HOAs. Remember the HOAs pay their lawyers with your money (and that of
your neighbors), and you also pay yours with no help from your
neighbors....bring your wallet and have a farewell party with its
contents before you go.
It is a crime and the HOA foreclosure lawyer vomit has a license to
steal....your HOME or LOADS of your $$$$$$$. It is an absolute racket.
HOAs and their puppetmaster CAI are guilty of racketeering and should
fall under the RICO laws of the US but they haven't yet.

The organization that the Slime Balls belong to is called CAI
(Community Association Institute) I know they have a chapter in
Houston. 713-784-5462 Beware. You have been WARNED about
these *******s or in their case 'BASTURDS'.

You could also call a good realtor who might help but probably won't.
No chance of money...no time to help.
All title companies must do business with the HOAs as well and just
give them the subdivision and section and they could find it for you.

There are two or three groups in Houston who are doing their best to
combat the crooked lobby in Austin, but they are fighting a very uphill
battle

Crooked self serving lobbyists and Crooked self serving legislators are
bringing doom for property rights. What ever happened to the great
Texas spirit of straight shooting?. Some of the best Anti-HOA tactic
websites in the nation are Houston based.Here are 3 to check out.


http://www.TexasHOAreform.org/

www.HOAdata.org Great Houston based statistics and more.

http://texas.ahrc.com/engine.php/submission;page=input,
action=display,id=1169 READ THIS LETTER

HeX

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In my above post the final URL did not highlight correctly.
Here it is again along with the text of the letter it related to.


http://texas.ahrc.com/engine.php/submission;page=input,
action=display,id=1169

READ THIS LETTER (press release)

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The following is a press release from Beanie Adolph for Texas
homeowners For HOA Reform.org
PRESS RELEASE

August 1, 2006

Dear Texas Homeowner:

You may have heard about the abuse of power by rogue HOA boards,
property managers, and attorneys in the Houston area.

Because we want to protect the citizens of Texas from HOA abuse, we, a
group of Texas homeowners throughout the state, have formed a new
organization - TEXAS HOMEOWNERS FOR HOA REFORM, INC. - to try in some
small way to give Texas homeowners a fighting chance for protection
against the almost unlimited powers of HOAs.

Most Texans want HOAs. But most Texans also want protection from HOA
abuse. Right now, no law and no group offer this protection.

The legal scales have tipped so that HOAs, property management
companies, and their attorneys have almost unlimited power against
homeowners.

Powerful groups exist to protect this imbalance and to create even more
laws giving ever-more power to the property management companies and
their attorneys, but no group with any power exists to protect
homeowners from this abuse.

We need regulation to protect Texans from HOA abuse.

We have laws to protect Texans from murder - even though most Texans
are not murderers. We have laws to protect Texans from drunk drivers -
even though most Texans are not drunk drivers. We have laws to protect
Texans from fraud, theft, embezzlement, and numerous other crimes -
even though most Texans never commit such crimes. We have no laws to
protect Texas homeowners from HOA abuse.

We ask you to join us. We are not against HOAs. We are against abuse.

THE HIDDEN GRAB OF POWER OVER THE LAST TWENTY YEARS

Like most Texans, you may not know how a powerful group of property
management companies and HOA attorneys has quietly and methodically
changed Texas law - taking away the basic rights of Texas homeowners.

Until the early 1980's, Texas law reflected the simple maxim: "A man's
home is his castle". You may think that this still reflects Texas law,
but it does not.

Texas law has changed with each legislative session: granting to HOA
boards complete legislative, executive and judicial power over
homeowners, so that a homeowner in conflict with his board must file
costly litigation in any attempt to obtain justice.

Most homeowners in HOAs have no idea of the injustices that abound.
Foreclosure filings against their neighbors are done in effective
secrecy unless the victim complains publicly.

Baseless violation letters are used to harass homeowners - without the
knowledge of their nearest neighbors. This is a very lucrative
business. Thousands of foreclosure filings occur in Houston every year
over trivial amounts. ( See www.HOAdata.org).

Huge fees are generated by and for the attorney, none of which benefit
the neighborhood. Management companies' contracts often include
incentive fees to create violations and to turn matters over to
attorneys.

Now the lobbyists for the property management companies and attorneys
want to expand this injustice from the Houston area to ALL OF TEXAS.

Specifically, they propose a new law - a "uniform law" (Texas Uniform
Planned Community Act, or "TUPCA") which would bring to the rest of
Texas the unchecked power of HOAs in the Houston area. A few years ago,
these same groups pushed for a similar "uniform law" in Arizona.

That "uniform law" would so empower the property management companies
and attorneys that one proponent, Lynn Jordan, stated that it should be
their policy even to "...COERCE (and) BRIBE...states to adopt a uniform
act." In the face of such a commitment to take power from homeowners we
must commit ourselves to fight for our rights.

We want to protect the citizens of Texas from the abuse of power that
the law has given to property management companies and attorneys - and
from the power they yet seek to take.

Our goals a

· To eliminate the HOA foreclosure threat to Texas homeowners.
· To correct Property Code Chapters 204 through 209, restoring
homeowners' control of their own property as opposed to HOA boards
having "all powers".
· To seek justice and equal treatment for Texas homeowners under the
Constitutions of Texas and of the United States.
· To correct Property Code Section 5.006 so a homeowner has an equal
opportunity in any HOA suit to receive an award of attorney fees.
· To make all Texas HOAs subject to the Open Records and Open
Meetings Acts.

The HOA lobbyists have been in control for decades, and homeowners have
suffered because of it.

All Texans must unite to protect their rights, their property. Join
with us. Go to our website:

http://www.TexasHOAreform.org/

Become a member. Together we can reclaim our rights - our
constitutional protections.

United we can demand that our State Legislators represent us and not
the lobbyists. United we can once again be a Government of the People.

Sounds like Hex is the kind of guy with two junk cars sitting in the
middle of an unmowed lawn.


There is a simple solution to the HOA issue. If you don;t like them,
just don't buy a house that has one.

wrote:
Sounds like Hex is the kind of guy with two junk cars sitting in the
middle of an unmowed lawn.


There is a simple solution to the HOA issue. If you don;t like them,
just don't buy a house that has one.

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Nope no junk cars and a pretty fair looking place.
Sounds like you are just plain ignorant or a member of the HOA slime
industry. Or a socialist who thinks private ownership is an affront to
the lame,lazy and other types who'd rather the "government" make all of
the decisions for all of us.
Not many places to buy a house that is not HOA infected.
Plus a HOA can be put in place after you buy. If enough of the stooges
in the "hood" support it or just are unaware of the happening you will
be forced into obeying it. No grandfather clause protection in most
states.
Nothing is often as SIMPLE as a SIMPLETON with a keyboard seems to
imagine.As you have just proven.

Hex

Your final drivel reminds me of the fool who said
"Don't worry about Pediphiles in the Neighborhood, Just don't let your
kids associate with them." Was that your quote too?

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Sounds like Hex is the kind of guy with two junk cars sitting in the
middle of an unmowed lawn.


There is a simple solution to the HOA issue. If you don;t like them,
just don't buy a house that has one.


Some parts of the country are HOA only for new housing. The HOA-Industry has
bought most of the legistators
in the southwest united states. Consumers have no chioce.

IN NEVADA:

State senator Michael Schneider seems to agree. "After the mayor [of Las
Vegas] was elected, I told him, 'Your staff only approves homeowners
associations.' He asked, 'Why do we do that?' I told him: 'Because you get
to raise taxes without letting the public know you're increasing taxes. You
bring in X thousand dollars without increasing services.' It's a taxing
scheme,"

azotic wrote:
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Sounds like Hex is the kind of guy with two junk cars sitting in the
middle of an unmowed lawn.


There is a simple solution to the HOA issue. If you don;t like them,
just don't buy a house that has one.


Some parts of the country are HOA only for new housing. The HOA-Industry has
bought most of the legistators
in the southwest united states. Consumers have no chioce.

No one is forcing you to buy a home with a HOA.. Only a small
percentage of homes in the USA are covered by a HOA. But you'd rather
just blow it all out of proportion and bitch about it.




IN NEVADA:

State senator Michael Schneider seems to agree. "After the mayor [of Las
Vegas] was elected, I told him, 'Your staff only approves homeowners
associations.' He asked, 'Why do we do that?' I told him: 'Because you get
to raise taxes without letting the public know you're increasing taxes. You
bring in X thousand dollars without increasing services.' It's a taxing
scheme,"

Besides the fact that the above statement is so misworded it;s not even
clear who said what to whom, how exactly does a HOA bring in increased
tax money to the municipality? Here in NJ, which has the one of the
highest tax burdens in the entire country, HOA fees, if they exist at
all, are used to pay for common maintenance like landscaping, pools,
tennis courts, etc. None of the HOA money is going to the
municipalities, which levy taxes completely seperate from anything the
HOA is doing.

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azotic wrote:
wrote in message
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Sounds like Hex is the kind of guy with two junk cars sitting in the
middle of an unmowed lawn.


There is a simple solution to the HOA issue. If you don;t like them,
just don't buy a house that has one.


Some parts of the country are HOA only for new housing. The HOA-Industry
has
bought most of the legistators
in the southwest united states. Consumers have no chioce.

No one is forcing you to buy a home with a HOA.. Only a small
percentage of homes in the USA are covered by a HOA. But you'd rather
just blow it all out of proportion and bitch about it.

I don't live in HOA-INDUSTRY controlled housing. But the HOA-INDUSTRY's
own records show 57,000,000 americans do live under some form of
HOA-INDUSTRY
controlled housing.

Here is the proof:

http://www.caionline.org/about/facts.cfm


IN NEVADA:

State senator Michael Schneider seems to agree. "After the mayor [of Las
Vegas] was elected, I told him, 'Your staff only approves homeowners
associations.' He asked, 'Why do we do that?' I told him: 'Because you
get
to raise taxes without letting the public know you're increasing taxes.
You
bring in X thousand dollars without increasing services.' It's a taxing
scheme,"

Besides the fact that the above statement is so misworded it;s not even
clear who said what to whom,

It seems you understand, others will also.

how exactly does a HOA bring in increased tax money to the municipality?

The municipality provides fewer services to a HOA than to NON-HOA but
the tax rates are the same.


Here's some links for the other side of the HOA lifestyle:

http://hoanewsnetwork.com/

http://www.ahrc.com/new/index.php/src/news

http://www.ccfj.net/HOAgen800lb.html

azotic wrote:

I don't live in HOA-INDUSTRY controlled housing. But the HOA-INDUSTRY's
own records show 57,000,000 americans do live under some form of
HOA-INDUSTRY
controlled housing.

Here is the proof:

http://www.caionline.org/about/facts.cfm


You left out one key bit of information from the above CAI citation:

"Homeowners associations and other planned communities account for
52-55% of the totals above, condominiums for 38-42% and cooperatives
for 5-7%."

I thought your objection was directed at homeowner associations
covering single family homes, not condos or coop apartments. Surely
any reasonable person realizes that when you have condos or coops where
ownership of common building elements is shared, there must be an
association to govern and maintain it. Or should we only allow single
family individual homes in NYC, SF, etc and get rid of all the
condos/coops? If you look at HOA for what appears to be single
family homes in the above, you're left with about 30Mil people, or 10%
of the US population. That leaves 90% of the rest of the housing for
people like you to choose from. So, what the beef?




how exactly does a HOA bring in increased tax money to the municipality?

The municipality provides fewer services to a HOA than to NON-HOA but
the tax rates are the same.


Maybe true in some places, but certainly not everywhere. Here in NJ,
HOA properties, including condos, are provided the same municipal
services as regular homes. And if some HOA's aren't receiving the same
services, that isn't a problem with the HOA's, it's a problem with the
local govt. I've seen local govts pass all kinds of laws which affect
some homeowners unfairly. For example, some towns have adopted laws
that make certain areas historic districts, where you are no longer
allowed to make changes to the exterior of your home. They even
control paint color. Following your logic, this means single family
homes should be avoided too.

And the portion of taxes devoted to any differences in services is
going to be very small. Of my local property tax bill, two thirds
goes to schools, leaving 1/3 to cover police, fire, parks, street
maintenance, municpal bldgs, and God only knows what else. So, even if
there was some diff in services, it ain't gonna amount to much in
actual tax $$$. Plus, people know all this going in and are free to
make their own choices.





Here's some links for the other side of the HOA lifestyle:

http://hoanewsnetwork.com/

http://www.ahrc.com/new/index.php/src/news

http://www.ccfj.net/HOAgen800lb.html



My, you really seem to have a big issue with HOAs. Yet, you don't
live in one. Let's look at what CAI, whom you chose as a credible
reference for your own figures, says about what folks who do live in
HOA's think:

http://www.caionline.org/about/facts.cfm

"More than seven in 10 (71%) rate their overall community association
experience as positive, while just 10 percent expressed discontent. One
in five expressed neither point of view.
89% said their community association board members strive to serve the
best interests of the community as a whole.
78% of those whose associations employ community managers said their
managers provide value and support to residents and the community as a
whole. Of those who have had direct interaction with their community
managers, 88% said the experience was positive.
80% of community association residents said they are pleased with the
return they get on their community association assessments.
78% said their community association's rules "protect and enhance"
property values, while just 1 in 100 said these rules "harm" property
values. About 20 percent said rules have no impact on property values.
"


So, what's your problem with people being free to choose?