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Cost of water filter & softner system
My wife and I just built a house in the Orlando, FL area. We have a
well (that we never had before) and the water has a rotten-egg smell. We had an independant water guy come out and he said for a chlorinator, tank, charchole filter, water softner, and under-sink reverse-osmosis filter we'd need to pay $3,500. Does this seem right? Thanks |
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"tryz" wrote:
My wife and I just built a house in the Orlando, FL area. We have a well (that we never had before) and the water has a rotten-egg smell. We had an independant water guy come out and he said for a chlorinator, tank, charchole filter, water softner, and under-sink reverse-osmosis filter we'd need to pay $3,500. Does this seem right? You need to know what the problem is before you solve it. It sounds like your "water guy" suggested everything he sells. Chlorinators are used when the water has high bacteria. They shouldn't be needed for a new well that was installed properly. The rotten egg odor is hydrogen sulfide and would be cleared up by a charcoal filter. You could buy a whole house one of these for less than $100 at Home Depot or Lowes. When your well was installed, you should have received a well report that will show both of the above and more. If not ask your builder or the county for a copy. Water softners take care of high mineral (calcium or magnesium) content. Hardness test are free or very low cost and will tell you if you need a softener. Installed should be less than $1000 for a decent mid grade unit. Don't get sucked up into getting magic magnets, super kinetic boxes or anything other than a standard resin tank softner. Reverse osmosis systems at the kitchen sink take care of all of the above problems for small quantities of water. Keep in mind that they remove *all* minerals which is not a good thing as far as taste is concerned. Look at the contents of AquaFina or any other bottled water... |
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tryz wrote:
My wife and I just built a house in the Orlando, FL area. We have a well (that we never had before) and the water has a rotten-egg smell. We had an independant water guy come out and he said for a chlorinator, tank, charchole filter, water softner, and under-sink reverse-osmosis filter we'd need to pay $3,500. Does this seem right? Thanks That's quite high for a local dealer and way high compared to an internet dealer. There are a number of types of equipment to remove H2S, but most will not disinfect the water if there is bacteria in the water. Bacteria like IRB/SRB or MRB can cause your odor and can not be identified with a Coliform bacteria test. I don't like using a solution feeder and retention tank for H2S due to the ongoing baby sitting they require but they do oxidize and disinfect. I use an erosion pellet chlorinator and special mixing tank that is much smaller than a normal retention tank. The chlorinator and mixing tank has no moving parts. Then I use a special carbon in a backwashed filter. That removes H2S iron, manganese and any odor or taste in the water. I see no reason for the RO. I suggest you wait until after you experience the water after getting rid of the odor, hardness and any iron and/or bacteria etc.. Disposable cartridge type "whole house" filters are not the right choice for your problem. H2S is very common in well water, especially in FL, so there is nothing wrong with your well. Gary Quality Water Associates |
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Be sure and check out all your options. I don't have well water but the water here in FL is very hard and has lots of calcium and other minerals that causes water spots and shortens the life of appliances that use water. We have a water softener that we bought at Home Depot. I don't know what the initial cost of installing one of these is because there was already one here when we bought the house. We replaced it recently and my husband was able to do that himself. The water softener cost a little under one thousand. It won't solve the rotten egg smell problem ,caused I've been told, by sulfur. Our neighbors with wells for lawn irrigation also get rust problems .... it's in the water, too, It causes rusty looking spots on the concrete sidewalks. We have been mostly buying drinking water since moving to FL. Softened water is fine for showers and laundry. |
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Thanks Gary (and everyone else).
I've noticed your posts around and you always seem quite knowledgable. I head to your site. Do you think that installing a pellet chlorinator & water softner is something a mere mortal can do? I'm fairly handy and wouldn't mind saving a grand. Thanks. Gary Slusser wrote: tryz wrote: My wife and I just built a house in the Orlando, FL area. We have a well (that we never had before) and the water has a rotten-egg smell. We had an independant water guy come out and he said for a chlorinator, tank, charchole filter, water softner, and under-sink reverse-osmosis filter we'd need to pay $3,500. Does this seem right? Thanks That's quite high for a local dealer and way high compared to an internet dealer. There are a number of types of equipment to remove H2S, but most will not disinfect the water if there is bacteria in the water. Bacteria like IRB/SRB or MRB can cause your odor and can not be identified with a Coliform bacteria test. I don't like using a solution feeder and retention tank for H2S due to the ongoing baby sitting they require but they do oxidize and disinfect. I use an erosion pellet chlorinator and special mixing tank that is much smaller than a normal retention tank. The chlorinator and mixing tank has no moving parts. Then I use a special carbon in a backwashed filter. That removes H2S iron, manganese and any odor or taste in the water. I see no reason for the RO. I suggest you wait until after you experience the water after getting rid of the odor, hardness and any iron and/or bacteria etc.. Disposable cartridge type "whole house" filters are not the right choice for your problem. H2S is very common in well water, especially in FL, so there is nothing wrong with your well. Gary Quality Water Associates |
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tryz wrote: Thanks Gary (and everyone else). I've noticed your posts around and you always seem quite knowledgable. I head to your site. Do you think that installing a pellet chlorinator & water softner is something a mere mortal can do? I'm fairly handy and wouldn't mind saving a grand. Thanks. Absolutely. About 90-95% of all my sales are to DIY customers that install the equipment themselves. I've sold many of the pellet chlorinator systems (13 this year alone) and so far, all were installed by the homeowner. It's regular/normal water line plumbing with 5-10' of total tubing. With both a softener and chlorinator system, you'll save more than a grand.... Gary Quality Water Associates |
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How do you choose a water filter? What does the filter actually reduce
or remove? And finally what does it cost? These answers are found by doing a little research or home work will call it. Doing such will save you a lot of money and provide you with pure "healthy" drinking water. The bottom line is you must get a Data Performance Sheet by the NSF national sanitation foundation to compare filters. These "proof of performance" sheets show exactly what the filter does and for how many gallons. If you can't get one from the manufacturer or from who ever is trying to sell you one, simply say no thanks! NSF International, The Public Health and Safety Company™, a not-for-profit, non-governmental organization, is the world leader in standards development, product certification, education, and risk-management for public health and safety. For more than 59 years, NSF has been committed to public health, safety, and protection of the environment. While focusing on food, water, indoor air, and the environment, NSF develops national standards, provides learning opportunities through its Center for Public Health Education, and provides third-party conformity assessment services while representing the interests of all stakeholders. The primary stakeholder groups include industry, the regulatory community, and the public at large. Do your home work! Make a good choice for your drinking water needs. Visit NSF below: http://www.nsf.org/consumer/drinking...ogram=WaterTre The Importance of Certification In the last decade, interest in home water treatment products has grown tremendously. Unfortunately, it isn't always easy for consumers to know whether or not a particular product will actually be as safe and effective as the manufacturer claims at reducing various contaminants from your water supply. NSF has a long history of developing and running independent product testing programs. In fact, we are the leading independent tester of home water treatment products on the market today. With our state-of-the-art laboratories and highly skilled staff, we have the knowledge and expertise to effectively evaluate water treatment products, including: Adsorption filters (i.e. carbon, charcoal, KDF, ceramic) Reverse osmosis systems Water softeners Distillation systems Ultraviolet disinfection products. As an added assurance for consumers, NSF requires that all products meet annual re-certification requirements. Unannounced plant inspections and periodic retesting of all certified products are required of all NSF-listed companies. This unique requirement allows us to ensure that the products we certify continue to meet all stated requirements year after year. Note: NSF has tested & certified over 4000 different filters. It's important to understand we have 400 plus manufacturers of water filters alone world wide. Having said this "why" would you purchase a water filter that is NOT tested & certified by NSF. It all comes down to this: Talk is cheap and facts are hard to find in the drinking water filtration industry! NSF is were you will get the facts. Ultimately it comes down to this: What does the filter do & how much does it cost? NSF Data performance sheets is were to find "what it does". Price: For a $1.00 a week you can have pure healthy drinking water. If you are spending "more" it's costing you too much. Sincerely, Chris |
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The Fact is NSF is for the consumer. Since 1944, NSF International, an
independent, not-for-profit organization, has been committed to making the world a safer place for consumers. Explore the consumer website to learn more about NSF, our programs and services, and the many ways we help consumers Live safer® every day. http://www.nsf.org/Certified/DWTU/ NSF walks a fine line as there are over 500 manufacturers of water filters, that do not like each other! NSF has to tell the truth or they would be sued for loss of business and misrepresentaion to the consumers. You mention the Government has some role in all of this. Well they do. The EPA does not set protocol for driniking water systems. In fact (they) refer consumers to the NSF. |
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Gary Slusser wrote:
The fact is that most people don't know that 99% of all 'filters' are not "certified" due to the high prices the NSF charges for certification BUT, those non-certified filters use the same components as the certified 'filter'. And usually work just as well, kinda like generic drugs. NSF certification is a bit like the BBB, or Consumer Reports. People rely on their 'service' without knowing that the vast majority of companies and products are never included. Gary Quality Water Associates "And usually work just as well, kinda like generic drugs". Generic drugs undergo stringent certification and must adhere to rigid parameters before being certified for sale to the public ... unlike "plain wrapper" filters made by who knows who in who knows where that may or may not do what the sellers would have you believe they do. Seems like you still do get what you pay for and a dollar's worth for a dollar is still the best deal around. |
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