I am just posting this message in case anyone is thinking of buying a
KingKoil "Emerald" series mattress ( it has a memory foam topping)

I have had this mattress for slightly over a year and I have had to
send it back twice for repairs because it 'sags' after a few hours of
sleep and starts causing back pain,. I just spoke to the guy at the
local king koil factory where this a mattress was sent for repairs and
his suggestions was ' Maybe you have not bought as good a mattress as
you think you did'

I paid over $1000 for a queen set and I have already spent $200 to have
movers take this mattress to the factory and bring it back ( this is
how their warranty works)

I am left with no other option now than to dump this mattress and buy
a new one ( unless i decide to put up with the pain)

thanks

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I am just posting this message in case anyone is thinking of buying a
KingKoil "Emerald" series mattress ( it has a memory foam topping)

(snip)

I am left with no other option now than to dump this mattress and buy
a new one ( unless i decide to put up with the pain)


I had a similar experience with the Serta Perfect Sleeper. Expensive,
and the warranty was just not honored. I think the thing was only
comfortable for about 2 or 3 MONTHS. Didn't even get "as good" of
service, as you did, on the warranty. They basically just said, "nope,
we're not going to honor it."

Next mattress we bought I did a LOT of research. (Internet was not
available to us when we bought the Serta) Came to the following
conclusion based on our experience and research on other brands too:

The warranty is a joke on any mattress. Not only do the manufacturers
rarely warrant "comfort" but their standards of what is "defective" are
significantly different than what people sleeping on the things think
of as "defective." You usually have to pay something to get a mattress
repaired or replaced. Most warranties are pro-rated so you may be
better off cutting your losses and buying a decent, but less fancy,
mattress and just replacing it more often. Most warranties require you
buy their box springs with the mattress, but these often contribute to
early sagging. Put a cheap but decent mattress on a platform bed or
solid support and it generally performs as well or better than
expsensive fancy mattresses and box spring combinations.

In the end we got a couple yrs use out of a bare bones basic mattress,
then when it wore out, and we could afford it, we bought a Tempurpedic.
Too soon to tell if it will live up to its claims or warranty as we
have had no problems with it. We do like it a lot, but it is very
heavy, and you are not supposed to try and bend or unbend it if it's
gotten frozen in a cold weather move, so the next time we move will be
"real interesting." Maybe we'll just have to make sure we don't move
in the winter.

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I have had this mattress for slightly over a year and I have had to
send it back twice for repairs because it 'sags' after a few hours of
sleep and starts causing back pain,. I just spoke to the guy at the
local king koil factory where this a mattress was sent for repairs and
his suggestions was ' Maybe you have not bought as good a mattress as
you think you did'

I just splurged on a Tempurpedic (mainly because my wife insisted). We are both
very happy with it.

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:26:35 -0700, "John Weiss"
wrote:

wrote...

I have had this mattress for slightly over a year and I have had to
send it back twice for repairs because it 'sags' after a few hours of
sleep and starts causing back pain,. I just spoke to the guy at the
local king koil factory where this a mattress was sent for repairs and
his suggestions was ' Maybe you have not bought as good a mattress as
you think you did'

I just splurged on a Tempurpedic (mainly because my wife insisted). We are both
very happy with it.

Now that we got their information package, and their little sample of
memory foam, my wife seems awfully interested in one, too (suddenly,
we're "not sleeping as well as we should")

;-)

Any downside to the Tempurpedic ... other than price?

"Neil Brooks" wrote...

I just splurged on a Tempurpedic (mainly because my wife insisted). We are
both
very happy with it.

Now that we got their information package, and their little sample of
memory foam, my wife seems awfully interested in one, too (suddenly,
we're "not sleeping as well as we should")

;-)

Any downside to the Tempurpedic ... other than price?

Haven't found one yet.

However, since the foam is temperature-sensitive, it will not work well in an
unheated room in a cold climate. I don't have the specifics, but when it gets
cold (40F or so?), it gets hard as a rock and may take several hours to warm to
"normal" consistency. However, we keep our room at 62 at night, and it's not a
problem at that temp.

FWIW, I travel a lot, and noticed that even previously "very comfortable" beds
in the Hyatt or Marriott are not quite as good as home any more...

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:33:49 -0700, "John Weiss"
wrote:

"Neil Brooks" wrote...

I just splurged on a Tempurpedic (mainly because my wife insisted). We are
both
very happy with it.

Now that we got their information package, and their little sample of
memory foam, my wife seems awfully interested in one, too (suddenly,
we're "not sleeping as well as we should")

;-)

Any downside to the Tempurpedic ... other than price?

Haven't found one yet.

However, since the foam is temperature-sensitive, it will not work well in an
unheated room in a cold climate. I don't have the specifics, but when it gets
cold (40F or so?), it gets hard as a rock and may take several hours to warm to
"normal" consistency. However, we keep our room at 62 at night, and it's not a
problem at that temp.

I've always been concerned that the Tempurpedic would be a little too
molded to my body for my liking; I overheat easily. I've been very
happy with our Select Comfort (Sleep by Number) bed, which is
adjustable and otherwise very flexible. We're using this right now on
a sheet of plywood in a new-to-us headboard/footboard bed frame (the
box springs wouldn't fit), and it seems fine.

wrote in message
ups.com...
I am just posting this message in case anyone is thinking of buying a
KingKoil "Emerald" series mattress ( it has a memory foam topping)

I have had this mattress for slightly over a year and I have had to
send it back twice for repairs because it 'sags' after a few hours of
sleep and starts causing back pain

Well that's the memory foam developing its memory... working as advertised.

I have back problems too and I found it worked well to buy a cheap, stiff
mattress, just a bit too stiff to sleep on by itself, then put on a regular
foam rubber bed pad (the eggshell kind, but with the bumpy side DOWN),
beneath a padded cover. Why pay loads of moolah for foam built into the
mattress when you can put it on yourself for a few bucks. It's easier to
take a stiff bed and soften it yourself, than vice versa.

What is the inner spring like, is it soft too? A board between it and the
mattress may help.

"HiTech RedNeck" wrote in message
et...
a regular
foam rubber bed pad (the eggshell kind

braino. i mean the egg crate kind

"HiTech RedNeck" wrote in message
et...

What is the inner spring like,

double braino, i mean box spring

Thanks for all the suggestions -

One thing that I have gathered from all these discussions is to use a
board (or solid foundation ) rather than a box spring for better
performance of most mattresses - and as someone suggested get cheaper
versions and change them often

"HiTech RedNeck" wrote...

I have had this mattress for slightly over a year and I have had to
send it back twice for repairs because it 'sags' after a few hours of
sleep and starts causing back pain

Well that's the memory foam developing its memory... working as advertised.

Not really...

Though cheap "memory foam" may sag as described, good, temperature- AND
weight-sensitive "memory foam" supports without sagging. I also have chronic
back problems from surgery over 20 years ago. Waterbeds are the absolute worst,
and so far the Tempurpedic is the best I've felt -- much better than a simple
"stiff" mattress.

wrote...

One thing that I have gathered from all these discussions is to use a
board (or solid foundation ) rather than a box spring for better
performance of most mattresses - and as someone suggested get cheaper
versions and change them often

Though bad foundations will cause problems, there is no need to discard a good
foundation. A piece of 1/4 or 3/8" plywood between the mattress and foundation
also works as good as a solid platform.