Hi,


Sorry for a slightly OT post.

These groups tend or seem to be fairly well frequented and at least slightly
relevant and equally likely to be able to fairly quickly yield a helpful and
useful answer.

In short:

Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw Single
Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):


Pin 1 Pin 2 Pin 3 Pin 4

@ /|\ /|\ /|\
@ | | |
--------- |
|
/|\ |
| |
-----------


Note: " @@ " is a wiggle symbol which must be for the coil (?).


Your assistance, input and / or guidance, thoughts, etc. are much
appreciated and welcomed.

Thanks in advance.


Best wishes,



News Reader

In article ,
News Reader wrote:

Hi,


Sorry for a slightly OT post.

These groups tend or seem to be fairly well frequented and at least
slightly relevant and equally likely to be able to fairly quickly yield
a helpful and useful answer.

In short:

Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw
Single Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):


Pin 1 Pin 2 Pin 3 Pin 4

@ /|\ /|\ /|\
@ | | |
--------- |
|
/|\ |
| |
-----------


Note: " @@ " is a wiggle symbol which must be for the coil (?).


Your assistance, input and / or guidance, thoughts, etc. are much
appreciated and welcomed.

First you need to use a fixed font for ASCII art to work on other's
newsreaders.

There are millions of relays - all with different pin numbers.

Use a DVM set to resistance to find out which two are the coil - it will
have a resistance likely in the 100s of ohms. The other two are the switch
contacts. If you don't have a DVM Xmas approaches. ;-) If a low volt coil
you could use a suitable battery. Note some relays have an internal diode
across the coil so will be polarity sensitive.

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In article , Dave Plowman
(News) wrote:

First you need to use a fixed font for ASCII art to work
on other's newsreaders.

I assumed that all newsreaders offered a choice of font - or
is that just Pluto?

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...
In article , Dave Plowman
(News) wrote:

First you need to use a fixed font for ASCII art to work
on other's newsreaders.

I assumed that all newsreaders offered a choice of font - or
is that just Pluto?

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Hi,


Many thanks all.

Will try following the advice given.

Any further / additional, etc. welcomed.

Rendering in a text only (non-html or "Font" rendering) mode should ensure
the ASCII art renders correctly ( ? - lol... or close enough?)...

Thanks again.

Bye for now.


Best wishes,



News Reader

News Reader wrote:
Rendering in a text only (non-html or "Font" rendering) mode should
ensure the ASCII art renders correctly ( ? - lol... or close
enough?)...

Only fixed width fonts will display correctly... Outlook Express by default
uses a proportional font.

On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:52:55 +0000 (GMT), Russell Hafter News wrote:

First you need to use a fixed font for ASCII art to work
on other's newsreaders.

I assumed that all newsreaders offered a choice of font - or
is that just Pluto?

Most GUI readers do, but even then there is no gurantee that the
vertical alignment will be corect.

Mr Plowman ommitted the word "pitch" between fixed and font. It is
the width of each character that needs to be the same for the entire
font, so a W is just as wide as an i. It doesn't matter what it looks
like, only that the charcters are all the same width.

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Cheers
Dave.

In article ,
News Reader wrote:
Will try following the advice given.

Any further / additional, etc. welcomed.

If you know the make and part number you could try the maker's website for
a spec sheet. Although I've a feeling this might just confuse you more...

Rendering in a text only (non-html or "Font" rendering) mode should
ensure the ASCII art renders correctly ( ? - lol... or close enough?)...

Newsgroups are basic text only. What font you use to type the message
doesn't come through them. Only the spacing. So you need to use a fixed
space font, and others must use a fixed space font to view that diagram as
you see it.

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In article ,
nut wrote:
Only fixed width fonts will display correctly... Outlook Express by
default uses a proportional font.

Since I don't use Windows, what is the name of the non proportional font
OE can access?

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What picture?
Brian

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"News Reader" wrote in message
...

Hi,


Sorry for a slightly OT post.

These groups tend or seem to be fairly well frequented and at least
slightly relevant and equally likely to be able to fairly quickly yield a
helpful and useful answer.

In short:

Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw Single
Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):


Pin 1 Pin 2 Pin 3 Pin 4

@ /|\ /|\ /|\
@ | | |
--------- |
|
/|\ |
| |
-----------


Note: " @@ " is a wiggle symbol which must be for the coil (?).


Your assistance, input and / or guidance, thoughts, etc. are much
appreciated and welcomed.

Thanks in advance.


Best wishes,



News Reader

That is the point, a choice of font. Who is going to alter what they use,
and most default to truetype normal stuff.

Not a lot of good to me in any case but used to have fun with ascii art in
them old days.

Who remembers the sheep?
Brian

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"Russell Hafter News" wrote in message
...
In article , Dave Plowman
(News) wrote:

First you need to use a fixed font for ASCII art to work
on other's newsreaders.

I assumed that all newsreaders offered a choice of font - or
is that just Pluto?

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On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:31:36 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
nut wrote:
Only fixed width fonts will display correctly... Outlook Express by
default uses a proportional font.

Since I don't use Windows, what is the name of the non proportional font
OE can access?

There is more than one. Possibly the most common one is "Courier New".

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In article ,
Peter Duncanson wrote:
Since I don't use Windows, what is the name of the non proportional font
OE can access?

There is more than one. Possibly the most common one is "Courier New".

Thanks for that.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Dec 9, 10:02*am, "News Reader" wrote:
Hi,

Sorry for a slightly OT post.

These groups tend or seem to be fairly well frequented and at least slightly
relevant and equally likely to be able to fairly quickly yield a helpful and
useful answer.

In short:

Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw Single
Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):

Pin 1 * *Pin 2 * *Pin 3 * *Pin 4

@ * * * */|\ * * * */|\ * * * * */|\
@ * * * * | * * * * *| * * * * * *|
* * * * * * --------- * * * * * |
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *|
* * * * * * * * * * * /|\ * * * * * *|
* * * * * * * * * * * *| * * * * * * |
* * * * * * * * * * * -----------

Note: " @@ " is a wiggle symbol which must be for the coil (?).

Your assistance, input and / or guidance, thoughts, etc. are much
appreciated and welcomed.

Thanks in advance.

Best wishes,

News Reader

Why not just take a picture (or draw one in Paint or something),
upload it to photobucket and post the link? much easier - and everyone
will see it correctly.

"News Reader" wrote in message
...

Hi,


Sorry for a slightly OT post.

These groups tend or seem to be fairly well frequented and at least
slightly relevant and equally likely to be able to fairly quickly yield a
helpful and useful answer.

In short:

Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw Single
Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):


Pin 1 Pin 2 Pin 3 Pin 4

@ /|\ /|\ /|\
@ | | |
--------- |
|
/|\ |
| |
-----------


Note: " @@ " is a wiggle symbol which must be for the coil (?).




SPST will be pin 1 to pin 2 will be the coil.
Pin 3 to pin 4 will be a normally open contact

On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:02:10 -0000, "News Reader"
wrote:

Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw Single
Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):

whats the part number of the relay ?

Hi,


Sorry for a slightly OT post.

These groups tend or seem to be fairly well frequented and at least
slightly relevant and equally likely to be able to fairly quickly yield a
helpful and useful answer.

In short:

Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw Single
Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):


Pin 1 Pin 2 Pin 3 Pin 4

@ /|\ /|\ /|\
@ | | |
--------- |
|
/|\ |
| |
-----------


Note: " @@ " is a wiggle symbol which must be for the coil (?).

Lots of tech information here, should help.. http://uk.farnell.com/relays

Cheers,

Paul

Dave Plowman
[...]use a fixed font for ASCII art[...]

News Reader wrote:
Rendering in a text only (non-html or "Font" rendering) mode
should ensure the ASCII art renders correctly

Wanna bet?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.e...8?dmode=source
Just do ASCII art in Notepad and paste *that* into your post.

....and as has been alluded to,
Outbreaks In Excess is the WORST choice for posting to Usenet
--for this and other reasons.
(Apparently you either format blockquoting by hand or
have done the 3rd-party update to make M$'s junk suck a bit less.)

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nut wrote:
Only fixed width fonts will display correctly... Outlook Express by
default uses a proportional font.

Since I don't use Windows, what is the name of the non proportional
font OE can access?

All of them, of course!

On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:24:43 -0800 (PST), JeffM
wrote:

...and as has been alluded to,
Outbreaks In Excess is the WORST choice for posting to Usenet
--for this and other reasons.

I changed my opinion of this after seeing Bills contributions using
News Rover and trying it for myself. OE looks positively useful in
comparison.
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On 2009-12-09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nut wrote:
Only fixed width fonts will display correctly... Outlook Express by
default uses a proportional font.

Since I don't use Windows, what is the name of the non proportional font
OE can access?

courier
terminal
fixedsys

(courier's probably best - looks like oldschool typewriter)

JeffM wrote:
...and as has been alluded to,
Outbreaks In Excess is the WORST choice for posting to Usenet
--for this and other reasons.

Andrew wrote:
I changed my opinion of this after seeing Bills contributions
using News Rover and trying it for myself.
OE looks positively useful in comparison.

The OP is an exception to the rule, but most OE users
are quite clueless about how proper posting should look
(and/or never look at their own posts).
Most OE users are also unaware that there is a 3rd-party update
which makes bad formatting / hand-formatting unnecessary:
http://google.com/search?q=inurl:jain+%22+OE.doesn't.exactly.feature .the.most.intelligent.quoting.algorithm

JeffM wrote:
JeffM wrote:
...and as has been alluded to,
Outbreaks In Excess is the WORST choice for posting to Usenet
--for this and other reasons.

Andrew wrote:
I changed my opinion of this after seeing Bills contributions
using News Rover and trying it for myself.
OE looks positively useful in comparison.

The OP is an exception to the rule, but most OE users
are quite clueless about how proper posting should look
(and/or never look at their own posts).
Most OE users are also unaware that there is a 3rd-party update
which makes bad formatting / hand-formatting unnecessary:
http://google.com/search?q=inurl:jain+%22+OE.doesn't.exactly.feature .the.most.intelligent.quoting.algorithm

Why didn't you just say Quotefix?

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:19:03 -0000, "jasee"
wrote:

Why didn't you just say Quotefix?

Or Thunderbird.
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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:19:03 -0000, "jasee"
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Why didn't you just say Quotefix?

Or Thunderbird.
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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:19:03 -0000, "jasee"
wrote:

Why didn't you just say Quotefix?

Or Thunderbird.
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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:19:03 -0000, "jasee"
wrote:

Why didn't you just say Quotefix?



Didn't realise there was a Quotefix for Outlook as well as Outlook Express

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:19:03 -0000, "jasee"
wrote:

Why didn't you just say Quotefix?



Didn't realise there was a Quotefix for Outlook as well as Outlook Express

News Reader wrote:
begin 666 SPST - Relay Picture Temp.GIF

NOT ONE of the groups to which you posted this
has "binary" or "binaries" in its name.
That means those are **text-only** groups.

....and the majority of news servers strip off attachment junk.

Outlook Express users really stand out--due to their ignorance.