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Another 555 question
Looking for a way to make a 555 timer astable circuit "triggerable." Seem
all the circuits I see (I think the some one over and over again) show an astable 555 rigger to run constantly as a "clock." Right now I am using a transistor to power up and down the 555, but it seems there should be a better way. Basically I want "bursts" of pulses based on a trigger. (And it needs to reset itself, not needing any manual reset.) Thanks, Henry |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 14:09:25 -0500, "Henry"
wrote: Looking for a way to make a 555 timer astable circuit "triggerable." Seem all the circuits I see (I think the some one over and over again) show an astable 555 rigger to run constantly as a "clock." Right now I am using a transistor to power up and down the 555, but it seems there should be a better way. Basically I want "bursts" of pulses based on a trigger. (And it needs to reset itself, not needing any manual reset.) --- _____ Use one 555 as a monostable with its output going to the RESET pin of another 555 wired as an astable. when you trigger the first one it will enable the second one, which will put out a signal for as long as the output of the first one is high. Like this: +V---+---------+----+-------+-------------------+-------+ | | | |8 | |8 [10K] [10K] [Rt] +---+---+ [RA] +---+---+ | | | 2|_ Vcc |3 | 7|_ Vcc |3 +-[0.1µF]-+----|--O|T OUT|--+ +--------+--O|D OUT|--OUT | | 6| | | | 6| | | O +---|TH | | +--[RB]--+---|TH | | O S1 | 7|_ 7555| | | 2|_ 7555| | +--O|D | | +--O|T | | | |_ | | | |_ | | +V---|--O|R | +------------|--O|R | | |+ | GND | |+ | GND | | [Ct] +---+---+ [Ct] +---+---+ | | |1 | |1 GND-+--------------+-------+-------------------+-------+ -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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Another 555 question
On 2005-12-27, Henry wrote:
Looking for a way to make a 555 timer astable circuit "triggerable." Seem all the circuits I see (I think the some one over and over again) show an astable 555 rigger to run constantly as a "clock." Right now I am using a transistor to power up and down the 555, but it seems there should be a better way. Basically I want "bursts" of pulses based on a trigger. (And it needs to reset itself, not needing any manual reset.) use the reset input signal and invert the output ? have you downloaded a 555 datasheet from the manufacturer? Bye. Jasen |
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"Henry" wrote in message ... Looking for a way to make a 555 timer astable circuit "triggerable." Seem all the circuits I see (I think the some one over and over again) show an astable 555 rigger to run constantly as a "clock." Right now I am using a transistor to power up and down the 555, but it seems there should be a better way. Basically I want "bursts" of pulses based on a trigger. (And it needs to reset itself, not needing any manual reset.) Thanks, Henry Thanks every one. Okay, this seems to work so far. I have connected the 555 Reset connection to ground with a 10K pull-down resistor. Then I pull the Reset up with a NPN transistor connected to Vcc (+5v) when I want it to trigger (vibrate?). Anyway, seems to work so far. I tried a higher pull-down (100K) resistor, but there was some auto-triggering and mis-fires. Is 10K good enough for a pull-down in this case or should I get some 20K or 50K? Thanks, Henry |
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:08:31 -0500, "Henry"
wrote: "Henry" wrote in message ... Looking for a way to make a 555 timer astable circuit "triggerable." Seem all the circuits I see (I think the some one over and over again) show an astable 555 rigger to run constantly as a "clock." Right now I am using a transistor to power up and down the 555, but it seems there should be a better way. Basically I want "bursts" of pulses based on a trigger. (And it needs to reset itself, not needing any manual reset.) Thanks, Henry Thanks every one. Okay, this seems to work so far. I have connected the 555 Reset connection to ground with a 10K pull-down resistor. Then I pull the Reset up with a NPN transistor connected to Vcc (+5v) when I want it to trigger (vibrate?). Anyway, seems to work so far. I tried a higher pull-down (100K) resistor, but there was some auto-triggering and mis-fires. Is 10K good enough for a pull-down in this case or should I get some 20K or 50K? --- Why didn't you use the circuit I gave you? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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On 2005-12-31, Henry wrote:
Thanks every one. Okay, this seems to work so far. I have connected the 555 Reset connection to ground with a 10K pull-down resistor. Then I pull the Reset up with a NPN transistor connected to Vcc (+5v) when I want it to trigger (vibrate?). Anyway, seems to work so far. I tried a higher pull-down (100K) resistor, but there was some auto-triggering and mis-fires. Is 10K good enough for a pull-down in this case or should I get some 20K or 50K? 10K is fine, anything is fine long as the transistor is upto the task. -- Bye. Jasen |
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"John Fields" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:08:31 -0500, "Henry" wrote: "Henry" wrote in message ... Looking for a way to make a 555 timer astable circuit "triggerable." Seem all the circuits I see (I think the some one over and over again) show an astable 555 rigger to run constantly as a "clock." Right now I am using a transistor to power up and down the 555, but it seems there should be a better way. Basically I want "bursts" of pulses based on a trigger. (And it needs to reset itself, not needing any manual reset.) Thanks, Henry Thanks every one. Okay, this seems to work so far. I have connected the 555 Reset connection to ground with a 10K pull-down resistor. Then I pull the Reset up with a NPN transistor connected to Vcc (+5v) when I want it to trigger (vibrate?). Anyway, seems to work so far. I tried a higher pull-down (100K) resistor, but there was some auto-triggering and mis-fires. Is 10K good enough for a pull-down in this case or should I get some 20K or 50K? --- Why didn't you use the circuit I gave you? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer Because it took an extra 555 timer, if I understood it correctely. I only have a couple of these and it seemed a waste to use a timer chip where a single transistor and resistor (of which I have many) seem to do the same. Otherwise I have used your advise in other questions. No insult intended. But I am also tinkering and experimenting and I may not be completely explainisg myself when I ask some of these questions. I need my last 555 timer as reset timer for something else. I have also read that 555 timers tend to consume power and not sure how many parts I can drive from 4-AAs. Im already using about 7 TTL logic chips, a 555 timer, (maybe another soon to complete the auto reset part) about 6 LEDs, and 8-10 transistors. Im already doing things like combining 2 NAND gates to make a single AND gate. Im improvising with what I have. Henry |
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On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:40:24 -0500, "Henry"
wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:08:31 -0500, "Henry" wrote: "Henry" wrote in message ... Looking for a way to make a 555 timer astable circuit "triggerable." Seem all the circuits I see (I think the some one over and over again) show an astable 555 rigger to run constantly as a "clock." Right now I am using a transistor to power up and down the 555, but it seems there should be a better way. Basically I want "bursts" of pulses based on a trigger. (And it needs to reset itself, not needing any manual reset.) Thanks, Henry Thanks every one. Okay, this seems to work so far. I have connected the 555 Reset connection to ground with a 10K pull-down resistor. Then I pull the Reset up with a NPN transistor connected to Vcc (+5v) when I want it to trigger (vibrate?). Anyway, seems to work so far. I tried a higher pull-down (100K) resistor, but there was some auto-triggering and mis-fires. Is 10K good enough for a pull-down in this case or should I get some 20K or 50K? --- Why didn't you use the circuit I gave you? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer Because it took an extra 555 timer, if I understood it correctely. I only have a couple of these and it seemed a waste to use a timer chip where a single transistor and resistor (of which I have many) seem to do the same. Otherwise I have used your advise in other questions. No insult intended. --- None taken. I was wondering because you said in your original post that you were looking for a circuit which, when triggered, would turn another circuit on (the astable) for a fixed time and then shut down automatically, which is what the circuit I gave you does. The first 555 is wired to be a one-shot, with its output normally low, and it holds the second 555 in reset. When the first 555 is triggered, its output goes high, it pulling the second one out of reset and allowing it to oscillate until the output of the first one goes low, forcing the second one back into reset until the trigger starts the first one again. --- But I am also tinkering and experimenting and I may not be completely explainisg myself when I ask some of these questions. I need my last 555 timer as reset timer for something else. I have also read that 555 timers tend to consume power and not sure how many parts I can drive from 4-AAs. --- You'll be able to drive them _all_ with 4 AAs, the question is, for how long. A Duracell AA (MN1500) has a capacity of 2450mAH with a 50 mA load on it, so if you add up all your load crrents and divide that number into 2450 you'll get hopw long the batteries will last until their output voltage falls to 0.8V. The supply current for the original Signetics NE555 varies from 6mA max with a 5V supply to 15V max with a 15V supply and no load on pin 3. 7400 family TTL gates vary from about 15mA with the outputs high to about 30mA with the outputs low. You can go to: http://www.ti.com Type in the part number, and a mini spec sheet will give you the supply current. For example, typing in SN7400N for the NAND lands you he http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/sn7400.html and if you want to you can download the data sheet. --- Im already using about 7 TTL logic chips, a 555 timer, (maybe another soon to complete the auto reset part) about 6 LEDs, and 8-10 transistors. Im already doing things like combining 2 NAND gates to make a single AND gate. Im improvising with what I have. --- OK, Good luck! -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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Another 555 question
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:08:31 -0500, "Henry"
wrote: Thanks every one. Okay, this seems to work so far. I have connected the 555 Reset connection to ground with a 10K pull-down resistor. Then I pull the Reset up with a NPN transistor connected to Vcc (+5v) when I want it to trigger (vibrate?). Anyway, seems to work so far. I tried a higher pull-down (100K) resistor, but there was some auto-triggering and mis-fires. Is 10K good enough for a pull-down in this case or should I get some 20K or 50K? --- You shouldn't be using a pull-down, you should be using a pull-up, like this: +V | [10k} +--- - - - - | 4|_ +------O|R 555 | | C +--- - - - - RESET---[100K]--B NPN E | GND -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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Another 555 question
Once again I'm not sure what you want, but I've gated 2 555s together with
different pulse rates to achieve something similar to what you describe. |
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