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On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 11:08:32 +0200, Look165 wrote:
Some professional soldering people do that far worse. The only problem for me in a possible shortcut between the two connections of the rectyfier bridge, an insulation pipe should be welcomed. It surely is the mains rectyfier, so a high voltage that could spike. It's actually under 4V AC entering that "hand-crafted" rectifier. -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 19:44:55 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
There's your problem. 15 watts is far too small for the heavy gauge wire you're using. The pointed tip is too small to retain enough heat to solder some of the larger parts in your photos. You also didn't bother to disclose whether you're using a temperature controlled soldering iron or a crappy wood burner. I'll guess(tm) a wood burner, probably with unplated rusted iron tips that can't be cleaned, wetted, or tinned. These are just bog-standard soldering irons with no fancy temp control. But their tips are in much better condition than you imagined above, thankfully! I had problems finding can type electrolytics so I used axial leaded electrolytics as a substitute. They fit inside the old can, so I just ripped out the guts from the defective capacitor and crammed the axial caps inside. I used 85C caps which lasted about 6 months. I replace them with 105C caps and they've been running for about 2 years. Maybe it was the additional 'jacketing' that caused the issue? You'd be trapping a layer of warm air in there causing a build up of heat, I'd guess? Thanks for the pep-talk btw. :-) -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 21:26:58 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
You're fine, you're just using cruddy tools. That's very nice of you, John, but if you actually saw me in action you couldn't miss a distinct lack of dexterity on my part!! Anyway, 'tis said a bad workman always blames his tools.... -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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OK, but a shortcut mai lead to some amperes.
Cursitor Doom a écritÂ*: On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 11:08:32 +0200, Look165 wrote: Some professional soldering people do that far worse. The only problem for me in a possible shortcut between the two connections of the rectyfier bridge, an insulation pipe should be welcomed. It surely is the mains rectyfier, so a high voltage that could spike. It's actually under 4V AC entering that "hand-crafted" rectifier. |
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37/73. True-eutectic solder where RHoS is not an issue.
Anyone who uses 60/40 solder for other than plumbing and direct chassis connections on vintage radios deserves exactly what they get. Full Stop. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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My uncle Sheldon had a TV repair shop and used to babysit me, but he couldn't solder because he always had a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other. So I sat in his lap and soldered for him, starting about the age of 3. That is nothing, even before I was borm I would stick my hand out of mama's and grap the iron to practice soldering. |
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On Monday, 8 October 2018 03:34:36 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
This is pretty bad. The box doesn't work. https://www.dropbox.com/s/cja04ohlsw...lenco.zip?dl=0 nor does the website |
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On 2018/10/08 1:08 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 22:53:10 -0700, John Robertson wrote: On 2018/10/07 7:34 PM, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 21:36:29 -0400, bitrex wrote: On 10/07/2018 12:08 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote: Hi all, I just fixed up this classic Tek 466 scope I've been meaning to get around to sorting out for the last few years. As you can see, my soldering is atrocious. I've been soldering this type of circuitry for 50 years and never got any better at it in all that time. When it comes to soldering and part-placement, I suck donkey dick! Check it out and enjoy at my expense: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859...in/dateposted- public/ and... https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859...in/dateposted- public/ As you can see, the "world's worst" tag was no exaggeration! Eh. This was the soldering job in a commercially-sold SMPS bench power supply from an Amazon.com reseller, IIRC, this was how it looked when it left the mfgr, I took this photo immediately after opening the enclosure and pulling the PCB (it had stopped working! can you believe it) https://www.dropbox.com/s/65km6pbq8wzch54/IMG_20171005_104357775.jpg?dl=0 This is pretty bad. The box doesn't work. https://www.dropbox.com/s/cja04ohlsw...lenco.zip?dl=0 You bought that NEW? Or was it second/third/fifth hand? New, from Amazon. It arrived that way. I opened it because it didn't work right. It looks like an idiot tried to modify it. I have trouble imagining a legitimate company letting something that hacked out for sale. It's Chinese. Perhaps it was a return from a customer who had a problem, then tried to fix it - botched it up, then sent it back to Amazon for a refund. The seller didn't bother to test or it simply was repacked in the Amazon warehouse for reshipment. Much like the people who buy clothes for a party then return them afterwards... John :-#(# |
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On Monday, 8 October 2018 03:44:54 UTC+1, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
The trick to soldering is to use decent equipment, a clean tinned tip, and the correct temperature. I tried a new soldering iron long ago that had a sawn off nail as a tip. The heating wire was wound onto this tip over an insulating sheet, so it wasn't replaceable. It soldered perfectly. I expect it would not have handled large joints, but I wasn't doing any at the time. A couple of years ago I tried soldering with nothing but a nail & a flame. Managed to produce good joints on pcbs, but the amount of time the nail stayed hot enough was very short, limiting what it could handle. Like many things, if you know what you're doing you can get all sorts of crap to work if necessary. NT |
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On 10/08/2018 11:26 AM, John Robertson wrote:
New, from Amazon. It arrived that way. I opened it because it didn't work right. It looks like an idiot tried to modify it. I have trouble imagining a legitimate company letting something that hacked out for sale. It's Chinese. Perhaps it was a return from a customer who had a problem, then tried to fix it - botched it up, then sent it back to Amazon for a refund. The seller didn't bother to test or it simply was repacked in the Amazon warehouse for reshipment. Much like the people who buy clothes for a party then return them afterwards... John :-#(# I bought a guitar amp used many years ago where the previous owner had either accidentally or deliberately left inside the speaker enclosure a couple photos someone had taken of what appeared to be the previous owner, a heavy-set jolly-looking African American man eating dinner in his kitchen with what looked like a plate of ribs sitting on top of the amp. Sadly that amp was stolen from me a number of years ago along with the Polaroids that i'd left in it where I found them for some superstitious reason. Back into the "material continuum" |
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My first job when I left school at 15 was on a TV production line. All
the assembly work was done on a conveyer belt in about 30 minutes. I was at the test stage. Sort of plug it in and see if it works. Any faults were diagnosed by engineers and passed back to me. I had to negotiate with about 50 women to get anything fixed. If I picked the wrong women my survival that day was not guaranteed. It was a great place to get a girlfriend! -- http://www.npsnn.com |
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 08:26:24 -0700, John Robertson wrote:
Perhaps it was a return from a customer who had a problem, then tried to fix it - botched it up, then sent it back to Amazon for a refund. The seller didn't bother to test or it simply was repacked in the Amazon warehouse for reshipment. My take? ...and I've seen such crappy "rework" in never-been-opened-since-the-factory communist chinese junk before. It's post-test fail rework done in the factory -- by the lowest skilled folks on the totem pole. "Get it working just Good Enough to ship it." Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ.net | linux 38.238N 104.547W | @ jonz.net | Jonesy | FreeBSD * Killfiling google & XXXXbanter.com: jonz.net/ng.htm |
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On 2018/10/08 10:13 AM, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 08:26:24 -0700, John Robertson wrote: Perhaps it was a return from a customer who had a problem, then tried to fix it - botched it up, then sent it back to Amazon for a refund. The seller didn't bother to test or it simply was repacked in the Amazon warehouse for reshipment. My take? ...and I've seen such crappy "rework" in never-been-opened-since-the-factory communist chinese junk before. It's post-test fail rework done in the factory -- by the lowest skilled folks on the totem pole. "Get it working just Good Enough to ship it." Jonesy Well, can't say I would argue with you. Bought a LCD from Amazon, and while the monitor works fine the brick on a rope was bloody dangerous! The brick has no markings about approvals, so it went to recycling, and the power cord - that was a piece of work - a two prong (unapproved of course) plug on a two conductor line cord (no approval of course) ending with a computer style 3-prong plug for the brick (...). The crap they are shipping will kill people. Back in the late 40s and early 50s TVs in the USA would catch fire regularly. So the US Gov. gave UL some teeth and that stopped happening. Here in Canada CSA was already regulating electrical appliances (had been for years) and as I understand it there were few if any house fires caused by crappy manufacturing shortcuts. The only real solution is international co-operation and standards that has to come to bear on all products as the general public has no idea about electrical/fire/food safety. I suspect a lot of children and adults have to die first though... John ;-#(# -- (Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup) John's Jukes Ltd. MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3 (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out." |
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 08:33:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Like many things, if you know what you're doing you can get all sorts of crap to work if necessary. NT When I was maybe 10-12 years old, I learned to solder making sewing machine attachments in my fathers petticoat factory. The attachments were necessary to make the elaborate folds and stiches found in all garments. Most were made from nickel-silver[1] sheet metal, which solders easily. The weapon of choice was a large block of copper attached to an iron rod and a wooden handle. Heat was provided by a natural gas burner: https://www.slateroofwarehouse.com/Johnson_Bench_Furnace.html Getting the temperature right was done by watching how the solder flowed when touched to the tip. Tip cleaner was a block of sal ammoniac. Flux was cocktail of various acids. We used different solders, but mostly very expensive silver solder because of the strength. In late Jr High Skool, I was introduced to electronic soldering. Of course, I tried to handle a soldering pencil as if it was a block of copper on a stick, and destroyed everything I touched. It took a while to adjust to a smaller soldering iron. My parents bought me an Ungar soldering pencil, which was the best soldering iron of the day. No temp control, no thermostat, but good enough for what I was doing. I eventually collected an assortment of wood burners, real soldering irons, and home made contrivances on the assumption that if I needed a specific temperature, I would also need a different soldering iron. One of my home made irons used a 16 penny nail as a soldering tip. The solder wouldn't stick to the tip, so I nickel plated most of the tip. That worked. I eventually discovered that mild steel did not burn up as quickly as high carbon drill rods. Iron would have worked better, but I didn't think of trying it. During the late 1960's, I was a regular visitor to the various electronic surplus stores in Los Angeles and Silicon Valley. Among my purchases was a large box of broken Weller WTCPT bases, irons, cords, etc. Something like these: https://www.google.com/search?q=weller+wtcpt&tbm=isch Over the years, I've repaired or rebuilt 20-30 such soldering stations, some of which I still use today. Eventually, I'll run out of repair parts and will need to buy something better. [1] 60% copper, 20% nickel, 20% zinc and no silver. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel_silver -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 9:27:00 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Yep - sorry. 37/63 lead-to-tin. Early AM post, and not quite awake. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA Maybe you had the 2N3773 on your mind, which is almost equivalent to the 2N3772. |
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On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 3:34:05 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Maybe you had the 2N3773 on your mind, which is almost equivalent to the 2N3772. They are pretty much interchangeable in most applications. I prefer the 2N3772 - I have never had a failure, and I have reliable sources. I have come across a number of counterfeit 73s. This is a hobby for me, so coming across even one counterfeit is remarkable, much less 3 out of 5. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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On Monday, 8 October 2018 19:44:54 UTC+1, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 08:33:43 -0700 (PDT), tabbypurr wrote: Like many things, if you know what you're doing you can get all sorts of crap to work if necessary. NT When I was maybe 10-12 years old, I learned to solder making sewing machine attachments in my fathers petticoat factory. The attachments were necessary to make the elaborate folds and stiches found in all garments. Most were made from nickel-silver[1] sheet metal, which solders easily. The weapon of choice was a large block of copper attached to an iron rod and a wooden handle. Heat was provided by a natural gas burner: https://www.slateroofwarehouse.com/Johnson_Bench_Furnace.html Getting the temperature right was done by watching how the solder flowed when touched to the tip. Tip cleaner was a block of sal ammoniac. Flux was cocktail of various acids. We used different solders, but mostly very expensive silver solder because of the strength. In late Jr High Skool, I was introduced to electronic soldering. Of course, I tried to handle a soldering pencil as if it was a block of copper on a stick, and destroyed everything I touched. It took a while to adjust to a smaller soldering iron. My parents bought me an Ungar soldering pencil, which was the best soldering iron of the day. No temp control, no thermostat, but good enough for what I was doing. I eventually collected an assortment of wood burners, real soldering irons, and home made contrivances on the assumption that if I needed a specific temperature, I would also need a different soldering iron. One of my home made irons used a 16 penny nail as a soldering tip. The solder wouldn't stick to the tip, so I nickel plated most of the tip. That worked. I eventually discovered that mild steel did not burn up as quickly as high carbon drill rods. Iron would have worked better, but I didn't think of trying it. During the late 1960's, I was a regular visitor to the various electronic surplus stores in Los Angeles and Silicon Valley. Among my purchases was a large box of broken Weller WTCPT bases, irons, cords, etc. Something like these: https://www.google.com/search?q=weller+wtcpt&tbm=isch Over the years, I've repaired or rebuilt 20-30 such soldering stations, some of which I still use today. Eventually, I'll run out of repair parts and will need to buy something better. [1] 60% copper, 20% nickel, 20% zinc and no silver. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel_silver It's not just soldering where one can scrape the barrel. I remember using 3 filament bulbs in lieu of a multimeter. The TV got fixed. What I can't remember is why I didn't have a multimeter there. NT |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 15:01:48 +0000, 698839253X6D445TD wrote:
That is nothing, even before I was borm I would stick my hand out of mama's and grap the iron to practice soldering. Good Lord! I had no idea you were such a precocious child, Jan! ;-) -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2018 17:45:02 +0000, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Precocious *embryo* I should have said. -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 1:36:07 PM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 16:08:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom wrote: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859...posted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859...posted-public/ As you can see, the "world's worst" tag was no exaggeration! There may be hope for you yet: 1. How many watts is your soldering iron? It looks like the mess made by too low power or too fine a tip. 75 watt seems about right. 2. Is the soldering iron temperature controlled? If yes, raise the temperature and work fast. Mine runs at 750F (400C) for 60/40 lead-tin. If no, go shopping and buy a decent adjustable temperature controlled soldering station. Get a fine tip for fine work, and a thicker tip for the big stuff (so that the tip doesn't go cold as soon as you touch the work). 3. Are those 3300uF 25V caps 85C caps or 105C? The photo looks like 85C. If so, they'll last about 6 months inside a hot oscilloscope. 4. Clean the enamel off the wires with sandpaper before you solder. I wonder if the grit of abrasive saw blades is too strong for that. |
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 04:47:48 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 1:36:07 PM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 16:08:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom wrote: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859...posted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859...posted-public/ As you can see, the "world's worst" tag was no exaggeration! There may be hope for you yet: 1. How many watts is your soldering iron? It looks like the mess made by too low power or too fine a tip. 75 watt seems about right. 2. Is the soldering iron temperature controlled? If yes, raise the temperature and work fast. Mine runs at 750F (400C) for 60/40 lead-tin. If no, go shopping and buy a decent adjustable temperature controlled soldering station. Get a fine tip for fine work, and a thicker tip for the big stuff (so that the tip doesn't go cold as soon as you touch the work). 3. Are those 3300uF 25V caps 85C caps or 105C? The photo looks like 85C. If so, they'll last about 6 months inside a hot oscilloscope. 4. Clean the enamel off the wires with sandpaper before you solder. I wonder if the grit of abrasive saw blades is too strong for that. Grit!? Emery paper is all tht's needed. Jonesy |
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On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 9:09:54 AM UTC-4, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 04:47:48 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 1:36:07 PM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 16:08:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom wrote: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859...posted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859...posted-public/ As you can see, the "world's worst" tag was no exaggeration! There may be hope for you yet: 1. How many watts is your soldering iron? It looks like the mess made by too low power or too fine a tip. 75 watt seems about right. 2. Is the soldering iron temperature controlled? If yes, raise the temperature and work fast. Mine runs at 750F (400C) for 60/40 lead-tin. If no, go shopping and buy a decent adjustable temperature controlled soldering station. Get a fine tip for fine work, and a thicker tip for the big stuff (so that the tip doesn't go cold as soon as you touch the work). 3. Are those 3300uF 25V caps 85C caps or 105C? The photo looks like 85C. If so, they'll last about 6 months inside a hot oscilloscope. 4. Clean the enamel off the wires with sandpaper before you solder. I wonder if the grit of abrasive saw blades is too strong for that. Grit!? Emery paper is all tht's needed. Exactly, what if you don't HAVE Emery or sandpaper. Just abrasive saw blades? (or maybe a belt sander) |
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On 07/10/2018 17:08, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Hi all, I just fixed up this classic Tek 466 scope I've been meaning to get around to sorting out for the last few years. As you can see, my soldering is atrocious. I've been soldering this type of circuitry for 50 years and never got any better at it in all that time. When it comes to soldering and part-placement, I suck donkey dick! Check it out and enjoy at my expense: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859...in/dateposted- public/ and... https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859...in/dateposted- public/ As you can see, the "world's worst" tag was no exaggeration! Soldering iron not hot enough, insufficient joint cleaning, use a better flux - old 60/40 flux cored solder does not contain the correct type of flux for reworking those old boards. Chemicals in the PCB material leach out and make soldering difficult. You need to use one of the modern aggressive types and clean it off afterwards. I've out of the game too long now and can no longer suggest which exact type of flux to use. There are some excellent no-clean types available now too. -- Blow my nose to email me |
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On 10/27/2018 09:07 AM, Kellerman wrote:
On 07/10/2018 17:08, Cursitor Doom wrote: Hi all, I just fixed up this classic Tek 466 scope I've been meaning to get around to sorting out for the last few years. As you can see, my soldering is atrocious. I've been soldering this type of circuitry for 50 years and never got any better at it in all that time. When it comes to soldering and part-placement, I suck donkey dick! Check it out and enjoy at my expense: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859...in/dateposted- public/ and... https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859...in/dateposted- public/ As you can see, the "world's worst" tag was no exaggeration! Soldering iron not hot enough, insufficient joint cleaning, use a better flux - old 60/40 flux cored solder does not contain the correct type of flux for reworking those old boards. Chemicals in the PCB material leach out and make soldering difficult. You need to use one of the modern aggressive types and clean it off afterwards. I've out of the game too long now and can no longer suggest which exact type of flux to use. There are some excellent no-clean types available now too. Kester 44 solder and MG Chemicals 835 RA flux. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net https://hobbs-eo.com |
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On 27/10/2018 17:36, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Kester 44 solder and MG Chemicals 835 RA flux. Yep - that looks like it would do the job. Despite modern regulations only Lead solder and activated flux works properly on that sort of re-work/repair job. About 15 years ago I had to source a fancy VOC free flux for a rework job. The particular stuff I used is no longer available but it was very good. Some variety of Multicore glop. I notice that the new replacements only have a 6 or 12 month shelf life and are quite costly in small (syringe) quantities. All my stock of solder is now old (15 years +) and the flux is ineffective. Looks like I'll have to find a syringe of some goo for my next job. -- Blow my nose to email me |
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On 11/01/2018 06:46 AM, Kellerman wrote:
On 27/10/2018 17:36, Phil Hobbs wrote: Kester 44 solder and MG Chemicals 835 RA flux. Yep - that looks like it would do the job. Despite modern regulations only Lead solder and activated flux works properly on that sort of re-work/repair job. About 15 years ago I had to source a fancy VOC free flux for a rework job. The particular stuff I used is no longer available but it was very good. Some variety of Multicore glop. I notice that the new replacements only have a 6 or 12 month shelf life and are quite costly in small (syringe) quantities. All my stock of solder is now old (15 years +) and the flux is ineffective. Looks like I'll have to find a syringe of some goo for my next job. You can get RA flux in quarts and gallons from both MG and Kester. I recommend the MG stuff because it seems to be stable, whereas the Kester stuff crystallizes out after a few years. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net https://hobbs-eo.com |
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World's Worst Soldering!
On 01/11/2018 14:06, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 11/01/2018 06:46 AM, Kellerman wrote: On 27/10/2018 17:36, Phil Hobbs wrote: Kester 44 solder and MG Chemicals 835 RA flux. Yep - that looks like it would do the job. Despite modern regulations only Lead solder and activated flux works properly on that sort of re-work/repair job. About 15 years ago I had to source a fancy VOC free flux for a rework job. The particular stuff I used is no longer available but it was very good. Some variety of Multicore glop. I notice that the new replacements only have a 6 or 12 month shelf life and are quite costly in small (syringe) quantities. All my stock of solder is now old (15 years +) and the flux is ineffective. Looks like I'll have to find a syringe of some goo for my next job. You can get RA flux in quarts and gallons from both MG and Kester. I recommend the MG stuff because it seems to be stable, whereas the Kester stuff crystallizes out after a few years. Cheers Phil Hobbs At my current home use a couple of pints would last more than my lifetime. Even a 9cc syringe would be out of date after the first job. At 10UKP a pop that's a bit dear. I leave soldering delicate stuff to better eyes these days. Thank you for your input. -- Blow my nose to email me |
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