I noted an earlier post - June 17 I believe - discussing suggestions of
Samsung and Toshiba 20 inch TV's. I'm replacing a much loved Sony KV-
20XBR (circa 1986 - $750) that finally decided to die (RIP). Frankly,
I'm not overly impressed with my options. The silver color (obviously
only an aesthetic consideration) is certainly not a preference!

Like the earlier poster, I have a maximum dimension in the vertical
plane of 18.5 inches. My choices are self-limited to Sony, Panasonic,
Toshiba, and Samsung - in order of decreasing preference. Actually, I
would have gone with the Panasonic Tau 20 inch, but it's 18.8 inches
high - darn!! This limits me to the Sony Wega KV-20FS100, KV-20FS120,
or the KV-20FV300, the Toshiba FST Pure 20AF44, and the Samsung DynaFlat
TX-P2030. All range in price from the big-box stores from $158 on the
low-end (Samsung at Sams Club) to approx. $300 for the Sony KV-20FV300.

Since I've used Sony aperature-grille CRT-based TV's for over 20 years,
one tends to get used to them. Thus, I'm not sure I would like a
shadow-mask type CRT television. Obviously, 20 inch televisions today
are designed as essentially consumables, but reliability and build-
quality (if there is such a thing at this price point) are still
important to me.

Any suggestions would be sincerely appreciated from the technician
point-of-view.

Tnx,
Don W9CW

Sony or Panasonic. If at all possible, also take a look at JVC.

But, since you've got good choices sans the Samsung, go with what you feel most
comfortable with. - Reinhart

What ever the $$ will buy, make a selection from what you posted lacking the
Korean enrty.
"LASERandDVDfan" wrote in message
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Sony or Panasonic. If at all possible, also take a look at JVC.

But, since you've got good choices sans the Samsung, go with what you feel
most
comfortable with. - Reinhart

You will get what you pay for. From being involved in servicing, I would go
with the Sony, Panasonic, Hitachi, or JVC in a TV set. My preference for
quality are the Sony and Panasonic.

You will notice that on the lower end sets, the raster size will change with
sudden changes from low to high contrast and brightness in the picture. This
is due to less stable high voltage regulation. You will also notice that the
beam focus is not as sharp, and the colour tracking, and convergence may not
be as accurate. This is just to mention a few simple differences.

--

Jerry G.
=====


"Don Allen" wrote in message
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I noted an earlier post - June 17 I believe - discussing suggestions of
Samsung and Toshiba 20 inch TV's. I'm replacing a much loved Sony KV-
20XBR (circa 1986 - $750) that finally decided to die (RIP). Frankly,
I'm not overly impressed with my options. The silver color (obviously
only an aesthetic consideration) is certainly not a preference!

Like the earlier poster, I have a maximum dimension in the vertical
plane of 18.5 inches. My choices are self-limited to Sony, Panasonic,
Toshiba, and Samsung - in order of decreasing preference. Actually, I
would have gone with the Panasonic Tau 20 inch, but it's 18.8 inches
high - darn!! This limits me to the Sony Wega KV-20FS100, KV-20FS120,
or the KV-20FV300, the Toshiba FST Pure 20AF44, and the Samsung DynaFlat
TX-P2030. All range in price from the big-box stores from $158 on the
low-end (Samsung at Sams Club) to approx. $300 for the Sony KV-20FV300.

Since I've used Sony aperature-grille CRT-based TV's for over 20 years,
one tends to get used to them. Thus, I'm not sure I would like a
shadow-mask type CRT television. Obviously, 20 inch televisions today
are designed as essentially consumables, but reliability and build-
quality (if there is such a thing at this price point) are still
important to me.

Any suggestions would be sincerely appreciated from the technician
point-of-view.

Tnx,
Don W9CW

Subject: 20 inch TV Recommendation
From: Don Allen
Date: 6/19/04 5:39 AM
Message-id:

Since I've used Sony aperature-grille CRT-based TV's for over 20 years,
one tends to get used to them. Thus, I'm not sure I would like a
shadow-mask type CRT television.

It's the same thing. A shadow mask by any other name..........

"John Del" wrote in message
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Subject: 20 inch TV Recommendation
From: Don Allen
Date: 6/19/04 5:39 AM
Message-id:

Since I've used Sony aperature-grille CRT-based TV's for over 20 years,
one tends to get used to them. Thus, I'm not sure I would like a
shadow-mask type CRT television.

It's the same thing. A shadow mask by any other name..........


Actually it's quite different, an aperature grill is a fine mesh of vertical
wires welded to a heavy metal frame. Unlike a shadow mask, the screen is
horizontally curved but vertically flat, though new ones are completely flat
on the outside. There's no horizontal divisions, just vertical slots.
Aperature grill tubes tend to produce a much brighter though sometimes not
as well focussed picture. I like them myself but some prefer a shadow mask
tube.

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 07:50:08 -0400, "Jerry G."
wrote:

You will get what you pay for. From being involved in servicing, I would go
with the Sony, Panasonic, Hitachi, or JVC in a TV set. My preference for
quality are the Sony and Panasonic.

You will notice that on the lower end sets, the raster size will change with
sudden changes from low to high contrast and brightness in the picture. This
is due to less stable high voltage regulation. You will also notice that the
beam focus is not as sharp, and the colour tracking, and convergence may not
be as accurate. This is just to mention a few simple differences.

--

Jerry G.
=====

For the reference, JVC changes very seldom on case styling, for this
reference, my AV-20020 black cabinet with speakers on bottom (basic
stereo w/ one input composite, R and L audio and stereo fixed output)
is just hair under 17 and half inches height. I see this exact same
cabinet for other JVC 20" models with more features (like component,
s-video etc inputs) with front inputs.

Cheers,

Wizard

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 00:39:31 -0500, Don Allen
wrote:

I noted an earlier post - June 17 I believe - discussing suggestions of
Samsung and Toshiba 20 inch TV's. I'm replacing a much loved Sony KV-
20XBR (circa 1986 - $750) that finally decided to die (RIP). Frankly,
I'm not overly impressed with my options. The silver color (obviously
only an aesthetic consideration) is certainly not a preference!

Like the earlier poster, I have a maximum dimension in the vertical
plane of 18.5 inches. My choices are self-limited to Sony, Panasonic,
Toshiba, and Samsung - in order of decreasing preference. Actually, I
would have gone with the Panasonic Tau 20 inch, but it's 18.8 inches
high - darn!! This limits me to the Sony Wega KV-20FS100, KV-20FS120,
or the KV-20FV300, the Toshiba FST Pure 20AF44, and the Samsung DynaFlat
TX-P2030. All range in price from the big-box stores from $158 on the
low-end (Samsung at Sams Club) to approx. $300 for the Sony KV-20FV300.

Since I've used Sony aperature-grille CRT-based TV's for over 20 years,
one tends to get used to them. Thus, I'm not sure I would like a
shadow-mask type CRT television. Obviously, 20 inch televisions today
are designed as essentially consumables, but reliability and build-
quality (if there is such a thing at this price point) are still
important to me.

Any suggestions would be sincerely appreciated from the technician
point-of-view.

Tnx,
Don W9CW


I would probably go for one of the Sonys. Picture quality is very
similar on all TVs now, but Sony still seems to have a slight edge in
focus. When you're looking at the sets in the store, make sure you
turn down the picture to a normal level. Even the best TV will bloom
and defocus at the factory default level. Definitely avoid Samsung.
They may be getting better, but I still haven't seen anything from
them that's impressed me.

Do you happen to still have the 20XBR? If you do, e-mail me because I
am looking for a set of speakers for my 20XBR. They were removed
sometime before I bought the set.
Andy Cuffe

Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Hitachi, Samsung and the list goes on are all good.
Many times you get much better than you pay for,
I got a Samsung 27 inch with remote and a 20 inch JVC with remote
both work perfect
$40 for both at a yard sale.(moving sale)
(compared to a 14 inch citizen brand new for $150)
"Don Allen" wrote in message
...
I noted an earlier post - June 17 I believe - discussing suggestions of
Samsung and Toshiba 20 inch TV's. I'm replacing a much loved Sony KV-
20XBR (circa 1986 - $750) that finally decided to die (RIP). Frankly,
I'm not overly impressed with my options. The silver color (obviously
only an aesthetic consideration) is certainly not a preference!

Like the earlier poster, I have a maximum dimension in the vertical
plane of 18.5 inches. My choices are self-limited to Sony, Panasonic,
Toshiba, and Samsung - in order of decreasing preference. Actually, I
would have gone with the Panasonic Tau 20 inch, but it's 18.8 inches
high - darn!! This limits me to the Sony Wega KV-20FS100, KV-20FS120,
or the KV-20FV300, the Toshiba FST Pure 20AF44, and the Samsung DynaFlat
TX-P2030. All range in price from the big-box stores from $158 on the
low-end (Samsung at Sams Club) to approx. $300 for the Sony KV-20FV300.

Since I've used Sony aperature-grille CRT-based TV's for over 20 years,
one tends to get used to them. Thus, I'm not sure I would like a
shadow-mask type CRT television. Obviously, 20 inch televisions today
are designed as essentially consumables, but reliability and build-
quality (if there is such a thing at this price point) are still
important to me.

Any suggestions would be sincerely appreciated from the technician
point-of-view.

Tnx,
Don W9CW

What ever the $$ will buy, make a selection from what you posted lacking the
Korean enrty.

What did you think "sans Samsung" meant? - Reinhart