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Jens Ratsey
 
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Default Pioneer rear projection convergence

I posted this to the home theater group too, but thought here might
also be worth a shot.

I have a Pioneer SD-P5183 rear projection TV that doesn't work
properly after moving house. The red gun is way out of convergence on
the bottom 3 cross hairs. The top and middle 3 are fine and the blue
and green guns are fine across all 9 points.

The convergence control on the remote doesn't seem to help. I took
the back and the screen off the set hoping to find some manual
adjustment controls, but can't find anything.

The red gun is probably a good 1.5" too high. The mirror looks to be
in place and all 3 colours are in focus.

Can anyone offer any advice?

J.
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Art
 
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Default Pioneer rear projection convergence

Bad output and probably poor spolder connections on the registration circuit
pcb/
"Jens Ratsey" wrote in message
om...
I posted this to the home theater group too, but thought here might
also be worth a shot.

I have a Pioneer SD-P5183 rear projection TV that doesn't work
properly after moving house. The red gun is way out of convergence on
the bottom 3 cross hairs. The top and middle 3 are fine and the blue
and green guns are fine across all 9 points.

The convergence control on the remote doesn't seem to help. I took
the back and the screen off the set hoping to find some manual
adjustment controls, but can't find anything.

The red gun is probably a good 1.5" too high. The mirror looks to be
in place and all 3 colours are in focus.

Can anyone offer any advice?

J.



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Default Pioneer rear projection convergence

Replace STK4277SL on convergence panel. Resolder all bad connections on
convergence assembly and power/deflection board. Then you will be good to
go!

--
Jammy Harbin
J & J Electronics, Inc.
227 S. 4th St.
Selmer, TN 38375
731-645-3311
"Jens Ratsey" wrote in message
om...
I posted this to the home theater group too, but thought here might
also be worth a shot.

I have a Pioneer SD-P5183 rear projection TV that doesn't work
properly after moving house. The red gun is way out of convergence on
the bottom 3 cross hairs. The top and middle 3 are fine and the blue
and green guns are fine across all 9 points.

The convergence control on the remote doesn't seem to help. I took
the back and the screen off the set hoping to find some manual
adjustment controls, but can't find anything.

The red gun is probably a good 1.5" too high. The mirror looks to be
in place and all 3 colours are in focus.

Can anyone offer any advice?

J.



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Jens Ratsey
 
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"Ampdoc" wrote in message ...
Replace STK4277SL on convergence panel. Resolder all bad connections on
convergence assembly and power/deflection board. Then you will be good to
go!

--
Jammy Harbin
J & J Electronics, Inc.
227 S. 4th St.
Selmer, TN 38375
731-645-3311


Thanks for the replies.

I just called a local repair shop and Pioneer dealer. I described the
problem and he estimated around $600 in repairs. He said he'd need to
take out all the circuits and resolder everything, plus of course come
and get the thing.

The estimate has put me off that since I intend to replace the set
eventually with a low to medium end overhead projector that seem to be
around the $1,200 range. It's also no longer my primary set.

I'm not a complete moron with a soldering iron and I'd be happy to
check the boards myself if it weren't for the nasty voltages in a TV
set. Someone suggested getting hold of a service manual - would I be
able to do anything myself (remember I'm in NO way qualified as a TV
repairman!) and if so, how would I go about getting one?

Or is the box just destined for permanent retirement?

J.


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Alan Harriman
 
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Default Pioneer rear projection convergence

On 10 Feb 2004 07:21:35 -0800, (Jens Ratsey) wrote:

"Ampdoc" wrote in message ...
Replace STK4277SL on convergence panel. Resolder all bad connections on
convergence assembly and power/deflection board. Then you will be good to
go!

--
Jammy Harbin
J & J Electronics, Inc.
227 S. 4th St.
Selmer, TN 38375
731-645-3311


Thanks for the replies.

I just called a local repair shop and Pioneer dealer. I described the
problem and he estimated around $600 in repairs. He said he'd need to
take out all the circuits and resolder everything, plus of course come
and get the thing.


Check around a little more. I think you could get it done for about half that. A
convergence failure is a normally fairly routine repair. You don't necessarily
have to go to a Pioneer ASC, but be sure they are familiar and have experience
with your set. That's still a good model.

Alan Harriman




The estimate has put me off that since I intend to replace the set
eventually with a low to medium end overhead projector that seem to be
around the $1,200 range. It's also no longer my primary set.

I'm not a complete moron with a soldering iron and I'd be happy to
check the boards myself if it weren't for the nasty voltages in a TV
set. Someone suggested getting hold of a service manual - would I be
able to do anything myself (remember I'm in NO way qualified as a TV
repairman!) and if so, how would I go about getting one?

Or is the box just destined for permanent retirement?

J.


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Where are you locatd, if they're getting those rates for a 250-300.00 job I
need to move!
Stk4277 should be found for less than $80 and that's if they are marking it
up a lot. They shouldn't have to even pick it up to fix that. Check
www.pioneerelectronics.com for an ASC in your area.


--
Jammy Harbin
J & J Electronics, Inc.
227 S. 4th St.
Selmer, TN 38375
731-645-3311
"Jens Ratsey" wrote in message
om...
"Ampdoc" wrote in message

...
Replace STK4277SL on convergence panel. Resolder all bad connections on
convergence assembly and power/deflection board. Then you will be good

to
go!

--
Jammy Harbin
J & J Electronics, Inc.
227 S. 4th St.
Selmer, TN 38375
731-645-3311


Thanks for the replies.

I just called a local repair shop and Pioneer dealer. I described the
problem and he estimated around $600 in repairs. He said he'd need to
take out all the circuits and resolder everything, plus of course come
and get the thing.

The estimate has put me off that since I intend to replace the set
eventually with a low to medium end overhead projector that seem to be
around the $1,200 range. It's also no longer my primary set.

I'm not a complete moron with a soldering iron and I'd be happy to
check the boards myself if it weren't for the nasty voltages in a TV
set. Someone suggested getting hold of a service manual - would I be
able to do anything myself (remember I'm in NO way qualified as a TV
repairman!) and if so, how would I go about getting one?

Or is the box just destined for permanent retirement?

J.



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Jens Ratsey-Woodroffe
 
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Default Pioneer rear projection convergence

I'm on Long Island, NY in the Smithtown vicinity. The place I called was
the first on the ASC list at PioneerElectronics.com. I'll try another one
today.

If there's anyone in the area who wants to make a quick buck let me know!

J.

"Ampdoc" wrote in message
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Where are you locatd, if they're getting those rates for a 250-300.00 job

I
need to move!
Stk4277 should be found for less than $80 and that's if they are marking

it
up a lot. They shouldn't have to even pick it up to fix that. Check
www.pioneerelectronics.com for an ASC in your area.


--
Jammy Harbin
J & J Electronics, Inc.
227 S. 4th St.
Selmer, TN 38375
731-645-3311
"Jens Ratsey" wrote in message
om...
"Ampdoc" wrote in message

...
Replace STK4277SL on convergence panel. Resolder all bad connections

on
convergence assembly and power/deflection board. Then you will be good

to
go!

--
Jammy Harbin
J & J Electronics, Inc.
227 S. 4th St.
Selmer, TN 38375
731-645-3311


Thanks for the replies.

I just called a local repair shop and Pioneer dealer. I described the
problem and he estimated around $600 in repairs. He said he'd need to
take out all the circuits and resolder everything, plus of course come
and get the thing.

The estimate has put me off that since I intend to replace the set
eventually with a low to medium end overhead projector that seem to be
around the $1,200 range. It's also no longer my primary set.

I'm not a complete moron with a soldering iron and I'd be happy to
check the boards myself if it weren't for the nasty voltages in a TV
set. Someone suggested getting hold of a service manual - would I be
able to do anything myself (remember I'm in NO way qualified as a TV
repairman!) and if so, how would I go about getting one?

Or is the box just destined for permanent retirement?

J.





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Ken G.
 
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Default Pioneer rear projection convergence

Here we go again with rip off repair shops ..
getting the chassis out far enough to get the board out is quite a chore
you have to take off alot of wires/plugs .
If you can solder `very well` that may be all it needs . It would be
hard to get shocked in a big screen tv set doing a convergence board .
If you cant try to get help taking it to a reasonable repair shop to
avoid their 100$ travel time .

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Ken G.
 
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Default Pioneer rear projection convergence

Here we go again with rip off repair shops ..
getting the chassis out far enough to get the board out is quite a chore
you have to take off alot of wires/plugs .
If you can solder `very well` that may be all it needs . It would be
hard to get shocked in a big screen tv set doing a convergence board .
If you cant try to get help taking it to a reasonable repair shop to
avoid their 100$ travel time .



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