want to shunt a multimeter to extend it's ac ampermeter range so
measured with Rish 14s in ohm meter position about 41 ohms
and then measured with Rish 14s its own internal resistance to get 40
ohms
Is this way to much -there is some mistake?
(http://www.multimetercalibrationsaus...shmulti14s.pdf
but cannot find data about it's internal resistance!)

"mynick" wrote in message
...
want to shunt a multimeter to extend it's ac ampermeter range so
measured with Rish 14s in ohm meter position about 41 ohms
and then measured with Rish 14s its own internal resistance to get 40
ohms
Is this way to much -there is some mistake?
(http://www.multimetercalibrationsaus...shmulti14s.pdf
but cannot find data about it's internal resistance!)


No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple the
power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.

JF

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, "John Fields"
wrote:

No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple the
power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
JF

New York Makes Internet Impersonation a Crime
http://www.hunton.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpload44/15889/new_york_internet_impersonation_privacy_alert.pdf

California Bans Malicious Online Impersonation
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206469/california_bans_malicious_online_impersonation.htm l

etc...

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:14:42 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, "John Fields"
wrote:

No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple the
power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
JF

New York Makes Internet Impersonation a Crime
http://www.hunton.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpload44/15889/new_york_internet_impersonation_privacy_alert.pdf

California Bans Malicious Online Impersonation
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206469/california_bans_malicious_online_impersonation.htm l

etc...

Sadly those who do it, rarely care about laws or crime... What's funny
is that the poster is easily traceable. He should have used an
anymonous remailer like the others do. (Then he'd be blocked by our
filters!)

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:14:42 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, "John Fields"
wrote:

No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple the
power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
JF

New York Makes Internet Impersonation a Crime
http://www.hunton.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpload44/15889/new_york_internet_impersonation_privacy_alert.pdf

California Bans Malicious Online Impersonation
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206469/california_bans_malicious_online_impersonation.htm l

etc...

---
Thanks for that, and now that I have Mr. I'm-not-all-that-bright's ISP
listed on the header he forged _and_ his real-world name and address
it shouldn't be long before he'll be thinking every little sound he
hears is the NYPD knocking on his door. :-)

---
JF

"Fred Abse" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, someone calling himself "John Fields"
wrote:

No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple
the
power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.


What a lousy impersonation.

The John Fields that we all know (and love?) writes grammatically.

--
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence
over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."
(Richard Feynman)

YOU ARE MORE ****-UP ASSHOLE FREAK!

I AM PROTEUS

"PeterD" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:14:42 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, "John Fields"
wrote:

No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple
the
power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
JF

New York Makes Internet Impersonation a Crime
http://www.hunton.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpload44/15889/new_york_internet_impersonation_privacy_alert.pdf

California Bans Malicious Online Impersonation
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206469/california_bans_malicious_online_impersonation.htm l

etc...

Sadly those who do it, rarely care about laws or crime... What's funny
is that the poster is easily traceable. He should have used an
anymonous remailer like the others do. (Then he'd be blocked by our
filters!)


PETERDUMB,
YOU SKUNKS KEPT FOLLOWING EACH OTHER TO SEWER. SOON THERE WON'T BE ANY
SKUNK LEFT, DON'T YOU KNOW FREAK?

YOU ARENT FOOLING ANYONE STUPID
YOU AND JOHNNY THERE SHOULD GIVE IT A GO
YOU ARE BOTH FREAKY FAGGOTY FOOLS

I AM PROTEUS

"John Fields" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:14:42 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, "John Fields"
wrote:

No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple
the
power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
JF

New York Makes Internet Impersonation a Crime
http://www.hunton.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpload44/15889/new_york_internet_impersonation_privacy_alert.pdf

California Bans Malicious Online Impersonation
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206469/california_bans_malicious_online_impersonation.htm l

etc...

---
Thanks for that, and now that I have Mr. I'm-not-all-that-bright's ISP
listed on the header he forged _and_ his real-world name and address
it shouldn't be long before he'll be thinking every little sound he
hears is the NYPD knocking on his door. :-)

---
JF


Yup, trace his ass John and let me know your success.

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:28:15 -0700 (PDT), mynick
wrote:

want to shunt a multimeter to extend it's ac ampermeter range so
measured with Rish 14s

So good so far.

According to the link the voltage drop is 270 mV at 10 A current.
This should not be hard to calculate the internal resistor of the
multimeter based of this information :-)

in ohm meter position about 41 ohms
and then measured with Rish 14s its own internal resistance to get 40
ohms
Is this way to much -there is some mistake?

Those values do not make any sense for any realistic current meter
(except for some extremely low current applications).

(http://www.multimetercalibrationsaus...shmulti14s.pdf
but cannot find data about it's internal resistance!)

For your own safety, if the 10 Aac current range of the multimeter is
not enough, please consider using a current transformer for measuring
large 50/60 Hz currents.

And remember that with current transformers, the secondary must
_always_ be shorted or connected to a low impedance meter.

"Paul Keinanen" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:28:15 -0700 (PDT), mynick
wrote:

want to shunt a multimeter to extend it's ac ampermeter range so
measured with Rish 14s

So good so far.

According to the link the voltage drop is 270 mV at 10 A current.
This should not be hard to calculate the internal resistor of the
multimeter based of this information :-)

in ohm meter position about 41 ohms
and then measured with Rish 14s its own internal resistance to get 40
ohms
Is this way to much -there is some mistake?

Those values do not make any sense for any realistic current meter
(except for some extremely low current applications).

(http://www.multimetercalibrationsaus...shmulti14s.pdf
but cannot find data about it's internal resistance!)

For your own safety, if the 10 Aac current range of the multimeter is
not enough, please consider using a current transformer for measuring
large 50/60 Hz currents.

And remember that with current transformers, the secondary must
_always_ be shorted or connected to a low impedance meter.


Oh my Gosh, you are really Stupid. Stop using internal resistance to expand
Amp meter Dumbass. It's not the way to do it ****er.

Your 0.270a to overcomde the accurancy of 10A? No wonder why you are too
Superdumb.

If you do the right thing, you can turn a 10A meter into 100A meter with
0.02% error.

Why should I tell you Superpower? You should know it if you are really what
you believe you are. Ok numbass?

Paul Keinanen wrote:

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:28:15 -0700 (PDT), mynick
wrote:


want to shunt a multimeter to extend it's ac ampermeter range so
measured with Rish 14s


So good so far.

According to the link the voltage drop is 270 mV at 10 A current.
This should not be hard to calculate the internal resistor of the
multimeter based of this information :-)


in ohm meter position about 41 ohms
and then measured with Rish 14s its own internal resistance to get 40
ohms
Is this way to much -there is some mistake?


Those values do not make any sense for any realistic current meter
(except for some extremely low current applications).


(http://www.multimetercalibrationsaus...shmulti14s.pdf
but cannot find data about it's internal resistance!)


For your own safety, if the 10 Aac current range of the multimeter is
not enough, please consider using a current transformer for measuring
large 50/60 Hz currents.

And remember that with current transformers, the secondary must
_always_ be shorted or connected to a low impedance meter.

Oh why did you have to tell him the last part!

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:49:42 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

He's in California. He's posting from 66.53.26.169 which RDNS
resolves to 66-53-26-169.lvgs.mdsg-pacwest.com, which is the dialup
modem pool in Stockton, Calif. His message was posted through
Toast.net, which is probably his ISP. There's a valid X-Trace header
included. This is too easy. What I find personally amusing is that
he's using Outlook Express for reading Usenet news, which suggests
that he's clueless. Judging by the writing style, I would guess about
17 years old.

$1000 fine and you can sue for damages to your reputation.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/sen/sb_1401-1450/sb_1411_bill_20100927_chaptered.html

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:49:42 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

He's in California. He's posting from 66.53.26.169 which RDNS
resolves to 66-53-26-169.lvgs.mdsg-pacwest.com, which is the dialup
modem pool in Stockton, Calif. His message was posted through
Toast.net, which is probably his ISP. There's a valid X-Trace header
included. This is too easy. What I find personally amusing is that
he's using Outlook Express for reading Usenet news, which suggests
that he's clueless. Judging by the writing style, I would guess about
17 years old.

$1000 fine and you can sue for damages to your reputation.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/sen/sb_1401-1450/sb_1411_bill_20100927_chaptered.html

In CA, you can sue for anything...

Actually, I can get sued for what I just said! Because its definition
of character for CA

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:01:56 -0400, Jamie
t wrote:

Paul Keinanen wrote:

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:28:15 -0700 (PDT), mynick
wrote:


want to shunt a multimeter to extend it's ac ampermeter range so
measured with Rish 14s


So good so far.

According to the link the voltage drop is 270 mV at 10 A current.
This should not be hard to calculate the internal resistor of the
multimeter based of this information :-)


in ohm meter position about 41 ohms
and then measured with Rish 14s its own internal resistance to get 40
ohms
Is this way to much -there is some mistake?


Those values do not make any sense for any realistic current meter
(except for some extremely low current applications).


(http://www.multimetercalibrationsaus...shmulti14s.pdf
but cannot find data about it's internal resistance!)


For your own safety, if the 10 Aac current range of the multimeter is
not enough, please consider using a current transformer for measuring
large 50/60 Hz currents.

And remember that with current transformers, the secondary must
_always_ be shorted or connected to a low impedance meter.

Oh why did you have to tell him the last part!


You really learn a lot after serious mistakes,
however, what is the point of it, if you are killed by the first
mistake ?

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:02:21 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:49:42 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

He's in California. He's posting from 66.53.26.169 which RDNS
resolves to 66-53-26-169.lvgs.mdsg-pacwest.com, which is the dialup
modem pool in Stockton, Calif. His message was posted through
Toast.net, which is probably his ISP. There's a valid X-Trace header
included. This is too easy. What I find personally amusing is that
he's using Outlook Express for reading Usenet news, which suggests
that he's clueless. Judging by the writing style, I would guess about
17 years old.

$1000 fine and you can sue for damages to your reputation.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/sen/sb_1401-1450/sb_1411_bill_20100927_chaptered.html

Who cares? My dick needs to be jacked.
--
****! I thought no one knew, goddammit!
http://preview.tinyurl.com/29p4ody
Me, jacking off! http://preview.tinyurl.com/3xpntge Available For
Lessons!

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:00:48 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, someone calling himself "John Fields"
wrote:

No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple the
power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.


What a lousy impersonation.

The John Fields that we all know (and love?) writes grammatically.
---
Thank you, sir! :-)


---
JF

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:53:52 -0700, "Proteus"
wrote:


YOU ARE MORE ****-UP ASSHOLE FREAK!

I AM PROTEUS

---
You are ****.


---
JF

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:56:53 -0700, "Proteus"
wrote:


PETERDUMB,
YOU SKUNKS KEPT FOLLOWING EACH OTHER TO SEWER. SOON THERE WON'T BE ANY
SKUNK LEFT, DON'T YOU KNOW FREAK?

YOU ARENT FOOLING ANYONE STUPID
YOU AND JOHNNY THERE SHOULD GIVE IT A GO
YOU ARE BOTH FREAKY FAGGOTY FOOLS

I AM PROTEUS

---
You are ****.

---
JF

On 10/24/2010 9:37 AM Fred Abse spake thus:

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:53:52 -0700, Proteus wrote:

"Fred Abse" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, someone calling himself "John
Fields" wrote:

No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher
range. Why did you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't
even know how to multiple the power of your electronic? You
see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very capable to multiple
current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.

What a lousy impersonation.

The John Fields that we all know (and love?) writes
grammatically.

YOU ARE MORE ****-UP ASSHOLE FREAK!

I AM PROTEUS

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=60.26...2631,-1.407736

Plonk!

So I'm just a little curious. At the risk of opening a can of worms, I ask:

1. How did you get this geographic location from that posting?
2. Who, exactly, is "Proteus"?

Like I said, just curious, not dying to know ...


--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)

mynick wrote:
want to shunt a multimeter to extend it's ac ampermeter range so
measured with Rish 14s in ohm meter position about 41 ohms
and then measured with Rish 14s its own internal resistance to get 40
ohms
Is this way to much -there is some mistake?
(http://www.multimetercalibrationsaus...shmulti14s.pdf
but cannot find data about it's internal resistance!)
Well, a good way to destroy a milliammeter movement is to use an
ohmmeter to measure its resistance (POOF!).
Take an adjustable low voltage supply in series with a resistor and
tweak for full scale reading.
Then connect an adjustable resistor across the meter and adjust for
half scale reading.
Remove that resistor and measure it.
I leave the proof to the student.

mynick wrote:
want to shunt a multimeter to extend it's ac ampermeter range so
measured with Rish 14s in ohm meter position about 41 ohms
and then measured with Rish 14s its own internal resistance to get 40
ohms
Is this way to much -there is some mistake?
(http://www.multimetercalibrationsaus...shmulti14s.pdf
but cannot find data about it's internal resistance!)
Now that i told you how to determine (NOT directly measure) the
resistance of a meter, FORGET that happy horsemanure.
Use that low voltage adjustable supply and resistor in series;adjust
to get full scale reading.
Now...hold your breath...measure the VOLTAGE across the meter.
THAT is what you want your meter shunt to drop, for full scale reading.
So it does not matter if the meter was 5uA, 100uA or 1mA; treat it as
if it was a voltmeter, measuring the voltage drop across the ten amp
shunt (or whatever you wanted).
So, you asked the wrong question (internal resistance).

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, "John Fields"
wrote:

No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple the
power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
JF

New York Makes Internet Impersonation a Crime
http://www.hunton.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpload44/15889/new_york_internet_impersonation_privacy_alert.pdf

California Bans Malicious Online Impersonation
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206469/california_bans_malicious_online_impersonation.htm l

etc...

And....So....Your point?

John Fields wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:56:53 -0700, "Proteus"
wrote:


PETERDUMB,
YOU SKUNKS KEPT FOLLOWING EACH OTHER TO SEWER. SOON THERE WON'T BE ANY
SKUNK LEFT, DON'T YOU KNOW FREAK?

YOU ARENT FOOLING ANYONE STUPID
YOU AND JOHNNY THERE SHOULD GIVE IT A GO
YOU ARE BOTH FREAKY FAGGOTY FOOLS

I AM PROTEUS

---
You are ****.

---
JF
Who is that stupid idiot, anyway?

"Robert Baer" wrote in message
...
John Fields wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:56:53 -0700, "Proteus"
wrote:


PETERDUMB,
YOU SKUNKS KEPT FOLLOWING EACH OTHER TO SEWER. SOON THERE WON'T BE ANY
SKUNK LEFT, DON'T YOU KNOW FREAK?

YOU ARENT FOOLING ANYONE STUPID
YOU AND JOHNNY THERE SHOULD GIVE IT A GO
YOU ARE BOTH FREAKY FAGGOTY FOOLS

I AM PROTEUS

---
You are ****.

---
JF
Who is that stupid idiot, anyway?


Flush!

JF

"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:49:42 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

He's in California. He's posting from 66.53.26.169 which RDNS
resolves to 66-53-26-169.lvgs.mdsg-pacwest.com, which is the dialup
modem pool in Stockton, Calif. His message was posted through
Toast.net, which is probably his ISP. There's a valid X-Trace header
included. This is too easy. What I find personally amusing is that
he's using Outlook Express for reading Usenet news, which suggests
that he's clueless. Judging by the writing style, I would guess about
17 years old.

$1000 fine and you can sue for damages to your reputation.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/sen/sb_1401-1450/sb_1411_bill_20100927_chaptered.html

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558


Flush!

JF

"David Sanders" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:02:21 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:49:42 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

He's in California. He's posting from 66.53.26.169 which RDNS
resolves to 66-53-26-169.lvgs.mdsg-pacwest.com, which is the dialup
modem pool in Stockton, Calif. His message was posted through
Toast.net, which is probably his ISP. There's a valid X-Trace header
included. This is too easy. What I find personally amusing is that
he's using Outlook Express for reading Usenet news, which suggests
that he's clueless. Judging by the writing style, I would guess about
17 years old.

$1000 fine and you can sue for damages to your reputation.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/sen/sb_1401-1450/sb_1411_bill_20100927_chaptered.html

Who cares? My dick needs to be jacked.
--
****! I thought no one knew, goddammit!
http://preview.tinyurl.com/29p4ody
Me, jacking off! http://preview.tinyurl.com/3xpntge Available For
Lessons!


Flush!

JF

"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
.com...
On 10/24/2010 9:37 AM Fred Abse spake thus:

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:53:52 -0700, Proteus wrote:

"Fred Abse" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, someone calling himself "John
Fields" wrote:

No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher
range. Why did you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't
even know how to multiple the power of your electronic? You
see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very capable to multiple
current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.

What a lousy impersonation.

The John Fields that we all know (and love?) writes
grammatically.

YOU ARE MORE ****-UP ASSHOLE FREAK!

I AM PROTEUS

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=60.26...2631,-1.407736

Plonk!

So I'm just a little curious. At the risk of opening a can of worms, I
ask:

1. How did you get this geographic location from that posting?
2. Who, exactly, is "Proteus"?

Like I said, just curious, not dying to know ...


--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)

Flush!

JF

"John Fields" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:53:52 -0700, "Proteus"
wrote:


YOU ARE MORE ****-UP ASSHOLE FREAK!

I AM PROTEUS

---
You are ****.


---
JF


I am sub-****.

---
JF

"Robert Baer" wrote in message
...
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, "John Fields"
wrote:

No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why
did you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to
multiple the power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass
and I am very capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
JF

New York Makes Internet Impersonation a Crime
http://www.hunton.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpload44/15889/new_york_internet_impersonation_privacy_alert.pdf

California Bans Malicious Online Impersonation
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206469/california_bans_malicious_online_impersonation.htm l

etc...

And....So....Your point?

He wanted to say I am a piece of ****

I am actually a sub-****.

---
JF

On 10/24/2010 8:39 PM John Fields spake thus:

"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
.com...

So I'm just a little curious. At the risk of opening a can of
worms, I ask:

1. How did you get this geographic location from that posting? 2.
Who, exactly, is "Proteus"?

Like I said, just curious, not dying to know ...

Flush!

My full house beats your flush.


--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)