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Received a Canon SD1000 from a relative who had not used it for a long
time but said it wouldn't work right, they thought I might get some
use out of it. The body of the camera is in mint condition, I was
amazed as it looks like it's never been used. The camera functions
fine as far as power on and off, lens extend and retract, and shutter
button snapping pictures, but the rear display is solid gray with some
barely visible horizontal lines. No menu items or text, just blank
display.

When I take pictures (guessing as I have a blank screen) and download
the files from the SD card to my PC, the are valid JPEG files but are
just colorful vertical lines with a few horizontal lines like this
example :

http://www.57web.com/IMG_0002.JPG

Would like to recover this camera as it's a nice unit and looks new.
Been in touch with Canon and they are offering a Customer Appreciation
program to trade it in and buy a factory refurbished unit, but I kind
of like this one if I can salvage it.

Not sure if it could be something like a loose connection in the
camera or maybe something like that.

Thanks in advance for your assistance
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Received a Canon SD1000 from a relative who had not used it for a long
time but said it wouldn't work right, they thought I might get some use
out of it. The body of the camera is in mint condition, I was amazed as
it looks like it's never been used. The camera functions fine as far as
power on and off, lens extend and retract, and shutter button snapping
pictures, but the rear display is solid gray with some barely visible
horizontal lines. No menu items or text, just blank display.

When I take pictures (guessing as I have a blank screen) and download
the files from the SD card to my PC, the are valid JPEG files but are
just colorful vertical lines with a few horizontal lines like this
example :

http://www.57web.com/IMG_0002.JPG

Would like to recover this camera as it's a nice unit and looks new.
Been in touch with Canon and they are offering a Customer Appreciation
program to trade it in and buy a factory refurbished unit, but I kind of
like this one if I can salvage it.

Not sure if it could be something like a loose connection in the camera
or maybe something like that.

Thanks in advance for your assistance


Looks like the display is damaged. Take advantage of their trade in
offer.



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There are several things to consider...

1. If the camera were working correctly, does it have the features you need,
and would it give you the kind of pictures you want?

2. Compared to the cost of a new camera, what would it cost to fix this one?
(I suspect Canon has no parts to fix it, and that's why you're being offered
a trade-in.)

Might I be blunt? I suspect you have little interest in photography --
there's nothing wrong with that -- and you don't have any real need for this
or any other camera. If that's correct, I wouldn't worry about fixing this
one or getting another.


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Might I be blunt? I suspect you have little interest in photography -- there's nothing wrong with that -- and you don't have any real need for this or any other camera. If that's correct, I wouldn't worry about fixing this one or getting another.

You can be blunt but you'd be wrong, also the owner of a Sony A100
DSLR and more Tamron lenses then I really wanted to own, an Olympus
Stylus 1050 waterproof camera and one of the new Fuji HS-10 swiss army
knife hybrid camera with 30X optical that I have really fallen in love
with. Just the Olympus doesn't take decent shots so been looking for
small camera to stick in my pocket on business trips. I love the
stainless body of the SD1000 and have used one before with very good
results.

Yes, it has the features I would like for a shove in my pocket haul
around. Not sure what the "repair" cost would be as all I got was
trade in cost and that was for the SD1200, They offered repair
estimates but I have to ship the camera in to get an estimate. And
it's not just the display that's damaged, it's the CCD not capturing
correctly either. The cost of the display and CCD might exceed the
cost of the replacement. Just didn't know if anyone had torn into one
before and found a loose connection or something not seated right or
maybe something simple like that.
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Yes, it has the features I would like for a shove in my pocket haul
around. Not sure what the "repair" cost would be as all I got was
trade in cost and that was for the SD1200, They offered repair
estimates but I have to ship the camera in to get an estimate. And
it's not just the display that's damaged, it's the CCD not capturing
correctly either. The cost of the display and CCD might exceed the
cost of the replacement. Just didn't know if anyone had torn into one
before and found a loose connection or something not seated right or
maybe something simple like that.


My understanding is that Canon had problems with a lot of defective
sensors -- but whether the SD1000 was one of the cameras, I don't remember.
(Probably not.)

This might be of interest...

http://www.algogo.com/store/products...10-Camera.html

The SD1000 also has a problem with the lens jamming at full zoom.

The fact that Canon wants to see the camera to give you an estimate does not
bode well. There's a number of cameras in this series that aren't horribly
expensive.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...alSearc h=yes

I'd twist Canon's arm on the SD4000, as it has the /fewest/ pixels (and
therefore possibly the lowest noise) in this group.








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On Oct 8, 12:26*pm, infiniteMPG wrote:
Received a Canon SD1000 from a relative who had not used it for a long
time but said it wouldn't work right, they thought I might get some
use out of it. *The body of the camera is in mint condition, I was
amazed as it looks like it's never been used. *The camera functions
fine as far as power on and off, lens extend and retract, and shutter
button snapping pictures, but the rear display is solid gray with some
barely visible horizontal lines. *No menu items or text, just blank
display.

When I take pictures (guessing as I have a blank screen) and download
the files from the SD card to my PC, the are valid JPEG files but are
just colorful vertical lines with a few horizontal lines like this
example :

http://www.57web.com/IMG_0002.JPG

Would like to recover this camera as it's a nice unit and looks new.
Been in touch with Canon and they are offering a Customer Appreciation
program to trade it in and buy a factory refurbished unit, but I kind
of like this one if I can salvage it.

Not sure if it could be something like a loose connection in the
camera or maybe something like that.

Thanks in advance for your assistance


From what you have found with this camera there are two distinct
problems apparent: the sensor to jpeg output system is malfunctioning
and the rear LCD display is malfunctioning [no data screens are
displayed]. These could be caused by a defective sensor system and a
defective LCD driver system or some common defect in the processor
board.
I have delved into two digital cameras and I found that they are
highly modular, but, other than interconnect ribbons, the modules are
not repairable. Unfortunately, the interconnecting is mostly by very
fine pitch 'flex' circuits with very fragile terminations at the
module connections.
If you are not really concerned with fixing it, you could certainly
try and open it up and examine it for any obvious failures but be
warned, they are very easily mechanically damaged beyond repair with
one mis-step during disassembly and examination.

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On 08/10/2010 20:26, infiniteMPG wrote:
Received a Canon SD1000 from a relative who had not used it for a long
time but said it wouldn't work right, they thought I might get some
use out of it. The body of the camera is in mint condition, I was
amazed as it looks like it's never been used. The camera functions
fine as far as power on and off, lens extend and retract, and shutter
button snapping pictures, but the rear display is solid gray with some
barely visible horizontal lines. No menu items or text, just blank
display.

When I take pictures (guessing as I have a blank screen) and download
the files from the SD card to my PC, the are valid JPEG files but are
just colorful vertical lines with a few horizontal lines like this
example :

http://www.57web.com/IMG_0002.JPG

Would like to recover this camera as it's a nice unit and looks new.
Been in touch with Canon and they are offering a Customer Appreciation
program to trade it in and buy a factory refurbished unit, but I kind
of like this one if I can salvage it.

Not sure if it could be something like a loose connection in the
camera or maybe something like that.

Thanks in advance for your assistance


First thing I would do is copy a known good *.jpg file to the SD card
and rename it to a correct Canon file name (IMG_0002.JPG maybe?). Then
put that card back in the camera and see if you can view it. If not,
then my guess is that it's the camera's CPU which has gone south.

If you (a) can't get a sensible picture you've taken with the camera out
from the SD card, and (b) can't view a known good jpg you've placed on
the card, it doesn't look good. Even if you do get a picture of the good
jpg on the LCD screen, it still means you have a major problem.

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On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:26:46 -0700, infiniteMPG wrote:

Received a Canon SD1000 from a relative who had not used it for a long
...
Thanks in advance for your assistance


Looks like the display is damaged. Take advantage of their trade in
offer.


What trade in offer, got a URL?
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You can use eBay as a reference to that model's value (working condition or
broken ones) and failure rate. With just a quick look at Canon 1000*
results, there are used models from $74 and $119, $140 etc.

There are several listed as broken, as-is.. and there are parts from
disassembled units (presumably broken/faulty models).

Most cameras and gadgets are throw-away items these days (has been this way
for quite some time), and I'm surprised that big corporations even bother
with exchanges of single items, as most consumer items have no real value.
I suppose that companies figure that offering an end user something as far
as exchange/upgrade is good PR, even if it costs them.

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Received a Canon SD1000 from a relative who had not used it for a long
time but said it wouldn't work right, they thought I might get some
use out of it. The body of the camera is in mint condition, I was
amazed as it looks like it's never been used. The camera functions
fine as far as power on and off, lens extend and retract, and shutter
button snapping pictures, but the rear display is solid gray with some
barely visible horizontal lines. No menu items or text, just blank
display.

When I take pictures (guessing as I have a blank screen) and download
the files from the SD card to my PC, the are valid JPEG files but are
just colorful vertical lines with a few horizontal lines like this
example :

http://www.57web.com/IMG_0002.JPG

Would like to recover this camera as it's a nice unit and looks new.
Been in touch with Canon and they are offering a Customer Appreciation
program to trade it in and buy a factory refurbished unit, but I kind
of like this one if I can salvage it.

Not sure if it could be something like a loose connection in the
camera or maybe something like that.

Thanks in advance for your assistance


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infiniteMPG schrieb:
Received a Canon SD1000 from a relative who had not used it for a long
time but said it wouldn't work right, they thought I might get some
use out of it. The body of the camera is in mint condition, I was
amazed as it looks like it's never been used. The camera functions
fine as far as power on and off, lens extend and retract, and shutter
button snapping pictures, but the rear display is solid gray with some
barely visible horizontal lines. No menu items or text, just blank
display.

When I take pictures (guessing as I have a blank screen) and download
the files from the SD card to my PC, the are valid JPEG files but are
just colorful vertical lines with a few horizontal lines like this
example :

http://www.57web.com/IMG_0002.JPG

Would like to recover this camera as it's a nice unit and looks new.
Been in touch with Canon and they are offering a Customer Appreciation
program to trade it in and buy a factory refurbished unit, but I kind
of like this one if I can salvage it.

Not sure if it could be something like a loose connection in the
camera or maybe something like that.

Thanks in advance for your assistance



Go to a Canon Service Station, that's a common CCD failure,
and Canon mostly will make a guarantee repair even when the
regular guarantee time is over.
Last known cost free repair had a friend in July this year
for his IXUS-400.
read more about it:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/badccds.html



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