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Hardcano 12 Chip ID help
Hi, Just wondering if anyone can ID this chip.
Its on a Thermaltake Hardcano 12 Fan speed controller for PC cooling There are 4 chips to control 4 fans, only 2 fan channels are now working. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40466580@N07/3739612554/ As you might see from the photo, pins 1-3 are joined and are variable DC output to the 12vdc fan, pin 4 has a variable width pulse in of 8v peak on a good channel but 2v peak one duff channel, 8v on the other duff channel (No output on 1-3). Pins 7-8 are joined and have 12VDC rail, pins 5-6 have traces disappearing under the board which I can't disassemble as I'm going to RMA it but want to see if its even worth getting another as it only lasted an hour before failing. It was driving 4xThermaltake 120mm Blue LED fans. There are no real specs on its drive ability, but I assume its capable of driving case fans. TIA JC |
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Hardcano 12 Chip ID help
I have no idea about the ICs, but what camer did you use for the picture of
the board? That's an extremely clear pic, even the texture in the epoxy is sharp. -- Cheers, WB .............. "Archon" wrote in message ... Hi, Just wondering if anyone can ID this chip. Its on a Thermaltake Hardcano 12 Fan speed controller for PC cooling There are 4 chips to control 4 fans, only 2 fan channels are now working. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40466580@N07/3739612554/ As you might see from the photo, pins 1-3 are joined and are variable DC output to the 12vdc fan, pin 4 has a variable width pulse in of 8v peak on a good channel but 2v peak one duff channel, 8v on the other duff channel (No output on 1-3). Pins 7-8 are joined and have 12VDC rail, pins 5-6 have traces disappearing under the board which I can't disassemble as I'm going to RMA it but want to see if its even worth getting another as it only lasted an hour before failing. It was driving 4xThermaltake 120mm Blue LED fans. There are no real specs on its drive ability, but I assume its capable of driving case fans. TIA JC |
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Hardcano 12 Chip ID help
Wild_Bill wrote:
I have no idea about the ICs, but what camer did you use for the picture of the board? That's an extremely clear pic, even the texture in the epoxy is sharp. -- Cheers, WB ............. "Archon" wrote in message ... Hi, Just wondering if anyone can ID this chip. Its on a Thermaltake Hardcano 12 Fan speed controller for PC cooling There are 4 chips to control 4 fans, only 2 fan channels are now working. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40466580@N07/3739612554/ As you might see from the photo, pins 1-3 are joined and are variable DC output to the 12vdc fan, pin 4 has a variable width pulse in of 8v peak on a good channel but 2v peak one duff channel, 8v on the other duff channel (No output on 1-3). Pins 7-8 are joined and have 12VDC rail, pins 5-6 have traces disappearing under the board which I can't disassemble as I'm going to RMA it but want to see if its even worth getting another as it only lasted an hour before failing. It was driving 4xThermaltake 120mm Blue LED fans. There are no real specs on its drive ability, but I assume its capable of driving case fans. TIA JC Thats my trusty old Olympus C-4000 Zoom on closeup mode. JC |
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Hardcano 12 Chip ID help
Meat Plow wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:22:18 -0400, Archon wrote: Wild_Bill wrote: I have no idea about the ICs, but what camer did you use for the picture of the board? That's an extremely clear pic, even the texture in the epoxy is sharp. -- Cheers, WB ............. "Archon" wrote in message ... Hi, Just wondering if anyone can ID this chip. Its on a Thermaltake Hardcano 12 Fan speed controller for PC cooling There are 4 chips to control 4 fans, only 2 fan channels are now working. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40466580@N07/3739612554/ As you might see from the photo, pins 1-3 are joined and are variable DC output to the 12vdc fan, pin 4 has a variable width pulse in of 8v peak on a good channel but 2v peak one duff channel, 8v on the other duff channel (No output on 1-3). Pins 7-8 are joined and have 12VDC rail, pins 5-6 have traces disappearing under the board which I can't disassemble as I'm going to RMA it but want to see if its even worth getting another as it only lasted an hour before failing. It was driving 4xThermaltake 120mm Blue LED fans. There are no real specs on its drive ability, but I assume its capable of driving case fans. TIA JC Thats my trusty old Olympus C-4000 Zoom on closeup mode. JC Most 3-5 megapix cameras with good lighting, manual focus and a macro mode can take those kind of pics and even better. Doesn't hurt to have a camera with a 37mm lens and multiple CCDs. I get great closeups with my Panasonic MiniDV camera in the still pix/manaul/macro mode because of the 37mm lens and three CDD pickup + OIS and a tripod. As far as the IC goes good luck. Maybe check some junk motherboards of similar attributes for a pull. Agreed, but I've been fairly disappointed on closeups with more recent cameras. Anyways, the chip I'm thinking is a variety of the Agilent - HCPL-3120 but the pin functions don't match. I was hoping to find a spec sheet just to see why this failed and if its up to the job, all the reviews say its good so maybe this was a bad one. JC |
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Wild_Bill wrote:
I have no idea about the ICs, but what camer did you use for the picture of the board? That's an extremely clear pic, even the texture in the epoxy is sharp. The depth-of-field is extremely shallow, so I'd guess that he's used a DSLR with a very good lens, shot wide open. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^--------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Hardcano 12 Chip ID help
Meat Plow wrote:
Snip Hi, Just wondering if anyone can ID this chip. Its on a Thermaltake Hardcano 12 Fan speed controller for PC cooling There are 4 chips to control 4 fans, only 2 fan channels are now working. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40466580@N07/3739612554/ As you might see from the photo, pins 1-3 are joined and are variable DC output to the 12vdc fan, pin 4 has a variable width pulse in of 8v peak on a good channel but 2v peak one duff channel, 8v on the other duff channel (No output on 1-3). Pins 7-8 are joined and have 12VDC rail, pins 5-6 have traces disappearing under the board which I can't disassemble as I'm going to RMA it but want to see if its even worth getting another as it only lasted an hour before failing. It was driving 4xThermaltake 120mm Blue LED fans. There are no real specs on its drive ability, but I assume its capable of driving case fans. Snip Anyways, the chip I'm thinking is a variety of the Agilent - HCPL-3120 but the pin functions don't match. I was hoping to find a spec sheet just to see why this failed and if its up to the job, all the reviews say its good so maybe this was a bad one. JC Well if you haven't any idea of the power sinking capabilities of the chip maybe 4x120mm lighted fansare too much especially if the LEDs power from the fan source but even if that's not the case it may still be too much. Without knowing the capabilities of each fan source as to speed control maximum wattage it's hard to say yes or no to this one. This is the device in question, be good if they gave more technical specs http://www.thermaltake.com/product/A...1845/a1845.asp JC |
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Hardcano 12 Chip ID help
Meat Plow wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:24:31 -0400, Archon wrote: Meat Plow wrote: Snip Hi, Just wondering if anyone can ID this chip. Its on a Thermaltake Hardcano 12 Fan speed controller for PC cooling There are 4 chips to control 4 fans, only 2 fan channels are now working. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40466580@N07/3739612554/ As you might see from the photo, pins 1-3 are joined and are variable DC output to the 12vdc fan, pin 4 has a variable width pulse in of 8v peak on a good channel but 2v peak one duff channel, 8v on the other duff channel (No output on 1-3). Pins 7-8 are joined and have 12VDC rail, pins 5-6 have traces disappearing under the board which I can't disassemble as I'm going to RMA it but want to see if its even worth getting another as it only lasted an hour before failing. It was driving 4xThermaltake 120mm Blue LED fans. There are no real specs on its drive ability, but I assume its capable of driving case fans. Snip snip Oh are you trying to power that from a fan source? Seems more logical to plug that into the PSU. Actually that was the wrong device, its this one : http://www.thermaltake.com/product/A...2349/a2349.asp Of course I'm plugging it into a standard 12/5 rail supply on the PC PSU as it was designed. Anyway I've RMA'd it with a query as to whether it is capable of running LED fans, pretty crap if it can't. It would be interesting to figure out those ic's, I'm guessing opto coupled IGBT drivers of some sort, but can't find any commercial part with that kind of pinout and I don't know if there is anything on the other side of the board with more power handling. I might be able to re-engineer the outputs if the replacement dies. The unit is pretty cool looking and could do the job if designed properly. JC |
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Hardcano 12 Chip ID help
Meat Plow wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:42:02 -0400, Archon wrote: Meat Plow wrote: On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:22:18 -0400, Archon wrote: Wild_Bill wrote: I have no idea about the ICs, but what camer did you use for the picture of the board? That's an extremely clear pic, even the texture in the epoxy is sharp. -- Cheers, WB ............. "Archon" wrote in message ... Hi, Just wondering if anyone can ID this chip. Its on a Thermaltake Hardcano 12 Fan speed controller for PC cooling There are 4 chips to control 4 fans, only 2 fan channels are now working. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40466580@N07/3739612554/ The soldering visible in the shot is really lousy. Almost every joint looks dry. I'd resolder everything. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^--------------------------------------------------------------- |
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