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I have recently aquired an old Allen Electric Type E30 tester for
motor/generator armatures. It's a simple device but I suspect the wiring
has been tampered with/modified. Does anyone know the wiring diagram ?
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:49:26 -0500, "jimhigh66"
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I have recently aquired an old Allen Electric Type E30 tester for
motor/generator armatures. It's a simple device but I suspect the wiring
has been tampered with/modified. Does anyone know the wiring diagram ?
Tnx Jim H.


Gee, the last one I saw was a coil and a switch. (maybe a lamp in
series?)
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Yes, there's a coil and a switch and also a light bulb and set of probes.
The probes and light bulb are wired across the 120V line -- makes no sense
and also dangerous! Suspect the probes should be connected to the bulb and
have no connection to the line. Jim H.

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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:44:23 -0500, "jimhigh66"
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Yes, there's a coil and a switch and also a light bulb and set of probes.
The probes and light bulb are wired across the 120V line -- makes no sense
and also dangerous! Suspect the probes should be connected to the bulb and
have no connection to the line. Jim H.



Nope... Probalby not, I suspect there was little consideration for
safety when that sucker was made. g It was used as a continuity
tester.
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:44:23 -0500, "jimhigh66"
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Yes, there's a coil and a switch and also a light bulb and set of probes.
The probes and light bulb are wired across the 120V line -- makes no sense
and also dangerous! Suspect the probes should be connected to the bulb and
have no connection to the line. Jim H.



Nope... Probalby not, I suspect there was little consideration for
safety when that sucker was made. g It was used as a continuity
tester.


Read Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growler_(electrical_device)

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It had been rewired. The probes would have been useless for anything except
as a source of 120V. The bulb, having been wired directly across the coil
would have been useless except as an indicator that power was applied.
I've rewired it "safe". Tnx for inputs.

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About ten years ago, I bought a Growler at a fleamarket, I paid three
dollars for the Growler.At the time, I didn't know it was a Growler or
what it was used for.I took it to Flanagan Electric company.A guy at
Flanagan checket it out by moving it around inside of a motor
armature.Flanagan paid me seventy five dollars for my Growler.

I have here something I bought cheap at a Goodwill store, a few years
ago.The device measures about eleven inches long and about two inches in
diameter.It looks sort of like an oversize large plastic crayon.There is
an electric cord on the bottom of the device and also a little knurled
brass knob on the bottom of the device.On the bottom of the device it
says, Master Appliances,Inc Marion, Indiana 20 W 115 V

What is it? What is it used for? How old is it?
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I have here something I bought cheap at a Goodwill store, a few years
ago.The device measures about eleven inches long and about two inches in
diameter.It looks sort of like an oversize large plastic crayon.There is
an electric cord on the bottom of the device and also a little knurled
brass knob on the bottom of the device.On the bottom of the device it
says, Master Appliances,Inc Marion, Indiana 20 W 115 V


It might be a degaussing wand/pen, intended to remove residual
magnetism from the erase and record/playback heads in a tape deck?

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I think there is a piece missing from the device, it was like that when
I bought it.Looking at the inside of the tip of the device, there is a
round metal tube which has a bottom, a little philips head screw holds
the metal tube in place.
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I think there is a piece missing from the device, it was like that when
I bought it.Looking at the inside of the tip of the device, there is a
round metal tube which has a bottom, a little philips head screw holds
the metal tube in place.
cuhulin


Possibly an Oudin or Tesla coil for checking vacuum systems and other
equipment with high voltage like:

http://www.electrotechnicproduct.com/

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Samuel M. Goldwasser wrote:

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I think there is a piece missing from the device, it was like that when
I bought it.Looking at the inside of the tip of the device, there is a
round metal tube which has a bottom, a little philips head screw holds
the metal tube in place.
cuhulin


Possibly an Oudin or Tesla coil for checking vacuum systems and other
equipment with high voltage like:

http://www.electrotechnicproduct.com/

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That's it! My father had arthritis and bought one that included several
glass discharge tubes that plugged into the HV socket. Turn the knob to
adjust the buzzer that controlled the excitation, put the tube against
where it hurts (or Hertz) and the tube lit up with a pale blue discharge.

The UV generated a little ozone. The discharge current leaked through the
glass and produced a tingling on your skin. Neither effect cured
arthritis.

That was 50 years ago. Now I've got arthritis.
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In cold weather, sometimes one of my fingers on my right hand will lock
up, arthritis, I think.When it does that, I put a little bit of WD-40 on
there.It works for me.
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On the web, Oudin Devices

I looked and I saw, www.museumofquackery.com/devices/uv.htm

Third picture down, that large pencil/crayon looking thingy looks just
like the device I have.
cuhulin, the quack

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On the web, Oudin Devices

I looked and I saw,
www.museumofquackery.com/devices/uv.htm

Third picture down, that large pencil/crayon looking thingy looks just
like the device I have.
cuhulin, the quack


I remember the same one. We had the whole collection of tubes and
snazzy case. In addition to the discharge tubes, there was a tubular
metal wand that could be plugged into the spark coil. Produced
quite a jolt.

I suppose it's too late to join in the class action suit.
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On the web, Oudin Devices

I looked and I saw,
www.museumofquackery.com/devices/uv.htm

Third picture down, that large pencil/crayon looking thingy looks just
like the device I have.
cuhulin, the quack


Yep, they show up on eBay from time=to-time, complete with the
gas tubes.

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