The used movie dvd looked IMO clean, no scratches, very clean, even viewed
at a angle, could see nothing.

I played it and got, I believe, an unusual problem.

A scene in a lighted room, the lighting is bright as you would expect, but
a moment later, the lighting dims, then brightens again. This repeated at
random intervals during the viewing. The movie was "The Man in the Grey
Flannel Suit", and that was not in the movie.

I replaced it with another movie dvd, it played fine.

I washed the problem dvd in plain water, let it air dry. Now it has water
spots. Haven't tried to play it again.

What is a safe way to clean a movie dvd at home?

And, is a dirty dvd the problem in the above results?

ms

ms wrote in :

The used movie dvd looked IMO clean, no scratches, very clean, even
viewed at a angle, could see nothing.

I played it and got, I believe, an unusual problem.

A scene in a lighted room, the lighting is bright as you would expect,
but a moment later, the lighting dims, then brightens again. This
repeated at random intervals during the viewing. The movie was "The Man
in the Grey Flannel Suit", and that was not in the movie.

I replaced it with another movie dvd, it played fine.

I washed the problem dvd in plain water, let it air dry. Now it has
water spots. Haven't tried to play it again.

What is a safe way to clean a movie dvd at home?

And, is a dirty dvd the problem in the above results?

ms


A 'used' movie DVD? Could it be a bootleg DVD?

Some protection schemes cause brightness variations.
For example, if you play a DVD back and try to record it on a VCR or play
through a VCR, you will see the brightness cycling from dark to viewable.

As for cleaning the DVD, washing it with clean, deionized water and
letting it air dry should work. NO scrubbing!!!!! 'Scrubbing' can drag
abrasive particles across the optical surface of the disk and scratch the
surface. Window cleaner and lens cleaning tissue, properly used (one pass
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On 27 Jun 2008 21:52:16 GMT, ms wrote:

The used movie dvd looked IMO clean, no scratches, very clean, even viewed
at a angle, could see nothing.

I played it and got, I believe, an unusual problem.

A scene in a lighted room, the lighting is bright as you would expect, but
a moment later, the lighting dims, then brightens again. This repeated at
random intervals during the viewing.

You are describing a DVD made from a *bad* print of the movie, one
that had little or no cleanup and fixup after transcribing. Not
uncommon for low budget transcriptions to DVD.

The movie was "The Man in the Grey
Flannel Suit", and that was not in the movie.

But it was in the print the DVD was made from. Bet your bottom dollar
on that.


I replaced it with another movie dvd, it played fine.

I washed the problem dvd in plain water, let it air dry. Now it has water
spots. Haven't tried to play it again.

What is a safe way to clean a movie dvd at home?

No, and you proved that.


And, is a dirty dvd the problem in the above results?

No, it won't do what you describe.


ms

ms wrote:

A scene in a lighted room, the lighting is bright as you would expect, but
a moment later, the lighting dims, then brightens again. This repeated at
random intervals during the viewing. The movie was "The Man in the Grey
Flannel Suit", and that was not in the movie.

Macrovision funnies? How is your TV connected to the DVD player? Is the
DVD an original or something someone has knocked off from another source?

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bz writes:

ms wrote in :

The used movie dvd looked IMO clean, no scratches, very clean, even
viewed at a angle, could see nothing.

I played it and got, I believe, an unusual problem.

A scene in a lighted room, the lighting is bright as you would expect,
but a moment later, the lighting dims, then brightens again. This
repeated at random intervals during the viewing. The movie was "The Man
in the Grey Flannel Suit", and that was not in the movie.

I replaced it with another movie dvd, it played fine.

I washed the problem dvd in plain water, let it air dry. Now it has
water spots. Haven't tried to play it again.

What is a safe way to clean a movie dvd at home?

And, is a dirty dvd the problem in the above results?

ms


A 'used' movie DVD? Could it be a bootleg DVD?

Some protection schemes cause brightness variations.
For example, if you play a DVD back and try to record it on a VCR or play
through a VCR, you will see the brightness cycling from dark to viewable.

Listen to what they are saying. A DVD is a digital media. Dirt may
cause drop-outs, noise, pixellation, jumping or skipping frames or more, or
even lock up the player. It isn't likely to produce variations in scene
brightness.

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ms wrote in :

The used movie dvd looked IMO clean, no scratches, very clean, even
viewed at a angle, could see nothing.

I played it and got, I believe, an unusual problem.

A scene in a lighted room, the lighting is bright as you would expect,
but a moment later, the lighting dims, then brightens again. This
repeated at random intervals during the viewing. The movie was "The
Man in the Grey Flannel Suit", and that was not in the movie.

I replaced it with another movie dvd, it played fine.

I washed the problem dvd in plain water, let it air dry. Now it has
water spots. Haven't tried to play it again.

What is a safe way to clean a movie dvd at home?

And, is a dirty dvd the problem in the above results?

ms

Thanks to all. I should have mentioned, this is a commercial DVD, the
garage seller bought new, the dvd has the expected label side. So IMO
it' original.

I will try distilled water as a wash.

ms

On Jun 27, 2:52*pm, ms wrote:
The used movie dvd looked IMO clean, no scratches, very clean, even viewed
at a angle, could see nothing.

I played it and got, I believe, an unusual problem.

A scene in a lighted room, the lighting is bright as you would expect, but
a moment later, the lighting dims, then brightens again. This repeated at
random intervals during the viewing. The movie was "The Man in the Grey
Flannel Suit", and that was not in the movie.

I replaced it with another movie dvd, it played fine.

I washed the problem dvd in plain water, let it air dry. Now it has water
spots. Haven't tried to play it again.

What is a safe way to clean a movie dvd at home?

And, is a dirty dvd the problem in the above results?

ms

And to think. these baby rapers have the audacity to call me - the
newsgroup moderator - a troll.

ms wrote:

Thanks to all. I should have mentioned, this is a commercial DVD, the
garage seller bought new, the dvd has the expected label side. So IMO
it' original.

Some counterfeit DVDs and real ones can look quite similar side by side.


I will try distilled water as a wash.

Forget the wash - that will not fix the symptoms.

I repeat, how is your DVD player connected to the TV?

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On Jun 27, 4:52*pm, Adrian C wrote:
ms wrote:
Thanks to all. I should have mentioned, this is a commercial DVD, the
garage seller bought new, the dvd has the expected label side. So IMO
it' original.

Some counterfeit DVDs and real ones can look quite similar side by side.



I will try distilled water as a wash.

Forget the wash - that will not fix the symptoms.

I repeat, how is your DVD player connected to the TV?

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It's connected to the TV the same way that everybody elses DVD player
is connected to the tv through the two screws that say UHF in the back
of the tv.

"ms" wrote in message
...
ms wrote in :

The used movie dvd looked IMO clean, no scratches, very clean, even
viewed at a angle, could see nothing.

I played it and got, I believe, an unusual problem.

A scene in a lighted room, the lighting is bright as you would expect,
but a moment later, the lighting dims, then brightens again. This
repeated at random intervals during the viewing. The movie was "The
Man in the Grey Flannel Suit", and that was not in the movie.

I replaced it with another movie dvd, it played fine.

I washed the problem dvd in plain water, let it air dry. Now it has
water spots. Haven't tried to play it again.

What is a safe way to clean a movie dvd at home?

And, is a dirty dvd the problem in the above results?

ms

Thanks to all. I should have mentioned, this is a commercial DVD, the
garage seller bought new, the dvd has the expected label side. So IMO
it' original.

I will try distilled water as a wash.

ms

There is no need for distilled water, nor any need to be particularly
careful. Any fingermarked CD or DVD can be cleaned with ordinary washing up
liquid, worked across the disc (not around the disc as has been pointed out
by others) by your two thumbs. When you have been over the whole disc in
thus manner, rinse it off with warm flowing bog-standard tap water. Shake
the excess off, and then dry off the remainder with a dry lint-free cloth.

Minor lower surface scratches are of no consequence whatsoever. The error
correction systems that are employed, are more than adequate to cope with
such minor imperfections.

I would agree with others that have posted answers. The disc in question was
almost certainly mastered from a bad print of the original film. A dirty,
scratched or otherwise damaged disc, will not cause any 'analogue' effects
of the type you are describing.

Arfa

I think your monitor has intermittent problems.

It's connected to the TV the same way that everybody elses DVD player
is connected to the tv through the two screws that say UHF in the back
of the tv.

You're kidding. Virtually everyone connects their DVD through a direct vide
input.

On Jun 27, 5:41*pm, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote:
It's connected to the TV the same way that everybody elses DVD player
is connected to the tv through the two screws that say UHF in the back
of the tv.

You're kidding. Virtually everyone connects their DVD through a direct vide
input.

What the **** is a "vide" input. You mean a Video input?

What if your television doesn't have one like half the televisions
made?

Then where the **** do you stick your ****ing dvd player?

"Stephany Alexander" wrote in message
...
On Jun 27, 5:41 pm, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote:
It's connected to the TV the same way that everybody elses DVD player
is connected to the tv through the two screws that say UHF in the back
of the tv.

You're kidding. Virtually everyone connects their DVD through a direct
vide
input.

What the **** is a "vide" input. You mean a Video input?

What if your television doesn't have one like half the televisions
made?

Then where the **** do you stick your ****ing dvd player?

You hook it up to RF modulator and you hook the output from that to a VHF
input, not UHF like you said, you gush craving bitch.

On Jun 27, 6:37*pm, "Kendra Weissbein" wrote:
"Stephany Alexander" wrote in message

...
On Jun 27, 5:41 pm, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote:

It's connected to the TV the same way that everybody elses DVD player
is connected to the tv through the two screws that say UHF in the back
of the tv.

You're kidding. Virtually everyone connects their DVD through a direct
vide
input.

What the **** is a "vide" input. You mean a Video input?

What if your television doesn't have one like half the televisions
made?

Then where the **** do you stick your ****ing dvd player?

You hook it up to RF modulator and you hook the output from that to a VHF
input, not UHF like you said, you gush craving bitch.

Call me what you want to, at least I am not a recreational cat killer.

Yes, it paid off to do my own Googling.

"William Sommerwerck" writes:

It's connected to the TV the same way that everybody elses DVD player
is connected to the tv through the two screws that say UHF in the back
of the tv.

You're kidding. Virtually everyone connects their DVD through a direct vide
input.

In fact, what DVD players have RF output?

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What if your television doesn't have one like half the televisions
made? Then where the **** do you stick your ****ing DVD player?

I'm not going to touch that one. No way.

You're kidding. Virtually everyone connects their DVD
through a direct video input.

In fact, what DVD players have RF output?

I checked a Sony DVP-S7000 (one of the first, if not the first, DVD
players). It has no RF output.

At the time DVD players were introduced, many TVs had direct inputs. I don't
know what percentage of DVD players have or had modulators.

William Sommerwerck wrote:
You're kidding. Virtually everyone connects their DVD through a direct vide
input.


Thanks for answering the troll. Now the chance of this thread going
anywhere to help the OP is zero....

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"William Sommerwerck" wrote in
:

You're kidding. Virtually everyone connects their DVD
through a direct video input.

In fact, what DVD players have RF output?

I checked a Sony DVP-S7000 (one of the first, if not the first, DVD
players). It has no RF output.

At the time DVD players were introduced, many TVs had direct inputs. I
don't know what percentage of DVD players have or had modulators.

my Samsung VHS/DVD 5500 has RF output. I just looked at the back of mine.








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Thanks for answering the troll. Now the chance of this thread going
anywhere to help the OP is zero...

I thought he was the OP. Besides, he's getting the info he needs.

On Jun 28, 6:07*am, Adrian C wrote:
William Sommerwerck wrote:
You're kidding. Virtually everyone connects their DVD through a direct vide
input.

Thanks for answering the troll. Now the chance of this thread going
anywhere to help the OP is zero....

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For those who can read... the OP was a troll himself you stupid
mother****er.

On Jun 28, 6:50*am, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote:
Thanks for answering the troll. Now the chance of this thread going
anywhere to help the OP is zero...

I thought he was the OP. Besides, he's getting the info he needs.

Yeah, the fact that he's an uneducated mother****er and a pseudotroll
himself.

On Jun 28, 5:55*am, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote:
You're kidding. Virtually everyone connects their DVD
through a direct video input.
In fact, what DVD players have RF output?

I checked a Sony DVP-S7000 (one of the first, if not the first, DVD
players). It has no RF output.

At the time DVD players were introduced, many TVs had direct inputs. I don't
know what percentage of DVD players have or had modulators.

A lot of high end teevees had inputs but at that time a lot of cheap
mother****ers didn't.

PeterD wrote in
:

On 27 Jun 2008 21:52:16 GMT, ms wrote:

The used movie dvd looked IMO clean, no scratches, very clean, even
viewed at a angle, could see nothing.

I played it and got, I believe, an unusual problem.

A scene in a lighted room, the lighting is bright as you would expect,
but a moment later, the lighting dims, then brightens again. This
repeated at random intervals during the viewing.

You are describing a DVD made from a *bad* print of the movie, one
that had little or no cleanup and fixup after transcribing. Not
uncommon for low budget transcriptions to DVD.

The movie was "The Man in the Grey
Flannel Suit", and that was not in the movie.

But it was in the print the DVD was made from. Bet your bottom dollar
on that.


I think you identified the problem. I cleaned the DVD with distilled
wster, so after air dry it was again unblemished appearance.

There is nothing wrong with the small TV monitor, or the connections as
it plays other movie dvd's fine. As in my OP, I was playing a dvd, not
using a VCR tape recorded copy or anything else.

After washing, the movie looks the same, from the opening credits screen.
the movie is alternately light and darker. The initial 20th Cen. Fox
video and no copy screens are perfectly stable, only every movie screen
is a problem.

This is the usual commercial dvd, "20th Cent Studio Classics, etc. ".

But the film quality sure looks just as you described.

A comment on above?

Thanks

ms

I replaced it with another movie dvd, it played fine.

I washed the problem dvd in plain water, let it air dry. Now it has
water spots. Haven't tried to play it again.

What is a safe way to clean a movie dvd at home?

No, and you proved that.


And, is a dirty dvd the problem in the above results?

No, it won't do what you describe.


ms

On 28 Jun 2008 19:24:03 GMT, ms wrote:

There is nothing wrong with the small TV monitor, or the connections as
it plays other movie dvd's fine. As in my OP, I was playing a dvd, not
using a VCR tape recorded copy or anything else.

After washing, the movie looks the same, from the opening credits screen.
the movie is alternately light and darker. The initial 20th Cen. Fox
video and no copy screens are perfectly stable, only every movie screen
is a problem.

This is the usual commercial dvd, "20th Cent Studio Classics, etc. ".

But the film quality sure looks just as you described.

A comment on above?

Sure. It's a pirated movie. The "initial 20th Cen. Fox video and no
copy screens are perfectly stable" because _that_ section of video can
be copied from _any_ valid DVD (ergo: Good quality) -- then the pirated
contents are spliced on past that (ispso facto: Crappy quality.)

IIRC, way back in your OP you memtioned you bought it at either a yard
sale or flea market -- the favored outlet for pirated material in
countries where pirated and counterfeit items are more at risk in store
front slaes.

Allodoxaphobia wrote in
:

On 28 Jun 2008 19:24:03 GMT, ms wrote:

There is nothing wrong with the small TV monitor, or the connections
as it plays other movie dvd's fine. As in my OP, I was playing a dvd,
not using a VCR tape recorded copy or anything else.

After washing, the movie looks the same, from the opening credits
screen. the movie is alternately light and darker. The initial 20th
Cen. Fox video and no copy screens are perfectly stable, only every
movie screen is a problem.

This is the usual commercial dvd, "20th Cent Studio Classics, etc. ".

But the film quality sure looks just as you described.

A comment on above?

Sure. It's a pirated movie. The "initial 20th Cen. Fox video and no
copy screens are perfectly stable" because _that_ section of video can
be copied from _any_ valid DVD (ergo: Good quality) -- then the
pirated contents are spliced on past that (ispso facto: Crappy
quality.)

IIRC, way back in your OP you memtioned you bought it at either a yard
sale or flea market -- the favored outlet for pirated material in
countries where pirated and counterfeit items are more at risk in
store front slaes.


I live in Oregon, a quiet sales location, not Hong Kong.
The package had several Fox sales brochures included, so I think it is
original. Very likely the garage sale seller bought it new at a local dept
store, etc. I know there are sales where thousands of copies are sold- that
wasn't this case, I usually see just 5-10 dvd's they are done watching.
So it is seems unlikely IMO this dvd is pirated. Just defective as PeterD
indicated. Still a first in my experience that they make a commercial dvd
this way.

ms

"The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit" is a virtually forgotten film, most
memorable for a scene in which Bernard Herrmann shows what a brilliant
composer he was. In a few seconds, the music reveals everything going
through Gregory Peck's mind.

The question is... Who would _want_ to pirate "The Man in the Gray Flannel
Suit"?

ms wrote in :

I live in Oregon, a quiet sales location, not Hong Kong.
The package had several Fox sales brochures included, so I think it is
original. Very likely the garage sale seller bought it new at a local
dept store, etc. I know there are sales where thousands of copies are
sold- that wasn't this case, I usually see just 5-10 dvd's they are
done watching. So it is seems unlikely IMO this dvd is pirated. Just
defective as PeterD indicated. Still a first in my experience that they
make a commercial dvd this way.

ms



It might play fine on a DVD player with a built in screen, or one that puts
out video directly, instead of ch3 / ch4 RF.





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"William Sommerwerck" wrote in
:

"The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit" is a virtually forgotten film, most
memorable for a scene in which Bernard Herrmann shows what a brilliant
composer he was. In a few seconds, the music reveals everything going
through Gregory Peck's mind.

The question is... Who would _want_ to pirate "The Man in the Gray
Flannel Suit"?


A good movie, The original dvd package and Fox sales inserts make it likely
as normal local purchase.

ms

bz wrote:
It might play fine on a DVD player with a built in screen, or one that puts
out video directly, instead of ch3 / ch4 RF.


Try playing it back on a PC?

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