I'm looking for a datasheet with as much detail as possible on the
optical pickup in the JVC XL-FZ158BK. It's either from Philips or
Sony. The actual pickup is a "hologram laser" with 10 pins in a
flat package with the hologram part in the cover. What I'm after
is really the details of the optical arrangement to identify the
photodiode locations.

I has a normal edge-emitting laser diode with its beam reflected by a
really tiny prism. But I can't visually identify either the monitor
photodiode, or the phodiiodes in the PD array.

Here is a poor photo:

http://repairfaq.cis.upenn.edu/Misc/...oto-diodes.jpg

13,14,15,16 are pads for the laser diode.

B is the angled mirror face.

A is the flat top of the prism. It is not known what, if anything,
is below this.

Any information appreciated.

Thanks!

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(Part of this was posted Yesterday to sci.electronics.repair only.)

I'm looking for a datasheet with as much detail as possible on the
optical pickup in the JVC XL-FZ158BK. It's either from Philips or
Sony. The type of pickup is called a "hologram laser" by some
manufacturers as it uses a Holographic Optical Element (HOE) to produce
the 3 beams of the "three beam pickup" and to distribute the return
beams to the focusing and tracking photodiodes. It has 10 pins in a
flat package with the hologram part in the clear cover. What I'm
mainly interested in are the details of the optical arrangement to identify
the photodiode locations. While conventional optical pickups using
discrete optics generally have a separate PD array with easily identified
individual photodiodes, these hologram lasers may have the photodiodes
distributed in almost any pattern. And on this one, it's far from obvous
even where they are, let alone the specific function of each.

It has a normal edge-emitting laser diode with its beam reflected by a
really tiny prism. But I can't visually identify either the monitor
photodiode, or the phodiiodes of the focusing/tracking/RF signal PD array.

Here is a poor photo:

http://repairfaq.cis.upenn.edu/Misc/...oto-diodes.jpg

13,14,15,16 are pads for the laser diode.

B is the angled mirror face.

A is the flat top of the prism. It is not known what, if anything,
is below this.

Pointers to any Philips or Sony combined laser/photodiode array optical
pickup datasheets would be desirable if this specific one doesn't ring
a bell.

Any info appreciated.

Thanks!

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Even a schematic of the area of the optical pickup from the JVC service
manual for the XL-FZ158BK would be helpful. That would at least identify
the pinout of the hologram laser IC.

Thanks.

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Sam Goldwasser writes:

(Part of this was posted Yesterday to sci.electronics.repair only.)

I'm looking for a datasheet with as much detail as possible on the
optical pickup in the JVC XL-FZ158BK. It's either from Philips or
Sony. The type of pickup is called a "hologram laser" by some
manufacturers as it uses a Holographic Optical Element (HOE) to produce
the 3 beams of the "three beam pickup" and to distribute the return
beams to the focusing and tracking photodiodes. It has 10 pins in a
flat package with the hologram part in the clear cover. What I'm
mainly interested in are the details of the optical arrangement to identify
the photodiode locations. While conventional optical pickups using
discrete optics generally have a separate PD array with easily identified
individual photodiodes, these hologram lasers may have the photodiodes
distributed in almost any pattern. And on this one, it's far from obvous
even where they are, let alone the specific function of each.

It has a normal edge-emitting laser diode with its beam reflected by a
really tiny prism. But I can't visually identify either the monitor
photodiode, or the phodiiodes of the focusing/tracking/RF signal PD array.

Here is a poor photo:

http://repairfaq.cis.upenn.edu/Misc/...oto-diodes.jpg

13,14,15,16 are pads for the laser diode.

B is the angled mirror face.

A is the flat top of the prism. It is not known what, if anything,
is below this.

Pointers to any Philips or Sony combined laser/photodiode array optical
pickup datasheets would be desirable if this specific one doesn't ring
a bell.

Any info appreciated.

Thanks!

--- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/

yes, Sam, I understand your needs behind, but sorry I cannot help, so far!
What nice and tricky "high end" application could be created with this
complex optical part - outside a DVD player, of course. Are you sure, Sir,
that this part is yet not blacklisted from the DOD? Actually as a kind of
Laserschurkendevices? Read his lips...!!!

beamit
Andreas Roithner

"Sam Goldwasser" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
Even a schematic of the area of the optical pickup from the JVC service
manual for the XL-FZ158BK would be helpful. That would at least identify
the pinout of the hologram laser IC.

Thanks.

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Sam Goldwasser writes:

(Part of this was posted Yesterday to sci.electronics.repair only.)

I'm looking for a datasheet with as much detail as possible on the
optical pickup in the JVC XL-FZ158BK. It's either from Philips or
Sony. The type of pickup is called a "hologram laser" by some
manufacturers as it uses a Holographic Optical Element (HOE) to produce
the 3 beams of the "three beam pickup" and to distribute the return
beams to the focusing and tracking photodiodes. It has 10 pins in a
flat package with the hologram part in the clear cover. What I'm
mainly interested in are the details of the optical arrangement to
identify
the photodiode locations. While conventional optical pickups using
discrete optics generally have a separate PD array with easily
identified
individual photodiodes, these hologram lasers may have the photodiodes
distributed in almost any pattern. And on this one, it's far from
obvous
even where they are, let alone the specific function of each.

It has a normal edge-emitting laser diode with its beam reflected by a
really tiny prism. But I can't visually identify either the monitor
photodiode, or the phodiiodes of the focusing/tracking/RF signal PD
array.

Here is a poor photo:

http://repairfaq.cis.upenn.edu/Misc/...oto-diodes.jpg

13,14,15,16 are pads for the laser diode.

B is the angled mirror face.

A is the flat top of the prism. It is not known what, if anything,
is below this.

Pointers to any Philips or Sony combined laser/photodiode array optical
pickup datasheets would be desirable if this specific one doesn't ring
a bell.

Any info appreciated.

Thanks!

--- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/

"ROITHNER LASERTECHNIK" writes:

yes, Sam, I understand your needs behind, but sorry I cannot help, so far!
What nice and tricky "high end" application could be created with this
complex optical part - outside a DVD player, of course. Are you sure, Sir,
that this part is yet not blacklisted from the DOD? Actually as a kind of
Laserschurkendevices? Read his lips...!!!

HeHeHeHeHeNe..... Ah, so that's why all Google references to it
are redirected to porn sites. ;-)

The only possibility so far is that I might be able to find a service
manual for the CD player and that might have a schematic with the pickup part
number and a pinout.

People have used CD/DVD pickups in interferometers and similar applications.

High end? Mayb mount 10,000 of them in a phased array.......

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beamit
Andreas Roithner

"Sam Goldwasser" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
Even a schematic of the area of the optical pickup from the JVC service
manual for the XL-FZ158BK would be helpful. That would at least identify
the pinout of the hologram laser IC.

Thanks.

--- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/

Sam Goldwasser writes:

(Part of this was posted Yesterday to sci.electronics.repair only.)

I'm looking for a datasheet with as much detail as possible on the
optical pickup in the JVC XL-FZ158BK. It's either from Philips or
Sony. The type of pickup is called a "hologram laser" by some
manufacturers as it uses a Holographic Optical Element (HOE) to produce
the 3 beams of the "three beam pickup" and to distribute the return
beams to the focusing and tracking photodiodes. It has 10 pins in a
flat package with the hologram part in the clear cover. What I'm
mainly interested in are the details of the optical arrangement to
identify
the photodiode locations. While conventional optical pickups using
discrete optics generally have a separate PD array with easily
identified
individual photodiodes, these hologram lasers may have the photodiodes
distributed in almost any pattern. And on this one, it's far from
obvous
even where they are, let alone the specific function of each.

It has a normal edge-emitting laser diode with its beam reflected by a
really tiny prism. But I can't visually identify either the monitor
photodiode, or the phodiiodes of the focusing/tracking/RF signal PD
array.

Here is a poor photo:

http://repairfaq.cis.upenn.edu/Misc/...oto-diodes.jpg

13,14,15,16 are pads for the laser diode.

B is the angled mirror face.

A is the flat top of the prism. It is not known what, if anything,
is below this.

Pointers to any Philips or Sony combined laser/photodiode array optical
pickup datasheets would be desirable if this specific one doesn't ring
a bell.

Any info appreciated.

Thanks!

--- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/

Sam Goldwasser wrote in
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High end? Mayb mount 10,000 of them in a phased array.......

Phased array of visible radiation? hmmmmmmmm......

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Skywise wrote:

Sam Goldwasser wrote in
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High end? Mayb mount 10,000 of them in a phased array.......

Phased array of visible radiation? hmmmmmmmm......


Sure. It's intended to replace the now obsolete mind control ray
generators, now that all the test subjects have started wearing aluminum
foil hats.


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Skywise wrote:

Sam Goldwasser wrote in
:

High end? Mayb mount 10,000 of them in a phased array.......

Phased array of visible radiation? hmmmmmmmm......


Sure. It's intended to replace the now obsolete mind control ray
generators, now that all the test subjects have started wearing aluminum
foil hats.

heheheh...but seriously, if it could be done, the possibilities
that would open up.....

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Skywise writes:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in news:582dnc_-
:


Skywise wrote:

Sam Goldwasser wrote in
:

High end? Mayb mount 10,000 of them in a phased array.......

Phased array of visible radiation? hmmmmmmmm......


Sure. It's intended to replace the now obsolete mind control ray
generators, now that all the test subjects have started wearing aluminum
foil hats.

heheheh...but seriously, if it could be done, the possibilities
that would open up.....

Get DARPA interested.

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On 05 May 2008 08:20:54 -0400, Sam Goldwasser
put finger to keyboard and composed:

The only possibility so far is that I might be able to find a service
manual for the CD player and that might have a schematic with the pickup part
number and a pinout.

Can you find a datasheet for the IC that interfaces with the pickup?
If so, then perform a continuity check with a DMM to locate your
diodes.

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Franc Zabkar writes:

On 05 May 2008 08:20:54 -0400, Sam Goldwasser
put finger to keyboard and composed:

The only possibility so far is that I might be able to find a service
manual for the CD player and that might have a schematic with the pickup part
number and a pinout.

Can you find a datasheet for the IC that interfaces with the pickup?
If so, then perform a continuity check with a DMM to locate your
diodes.

Right. All I have is the IC with the laser diode and photodiodes that came
out of the pickup. I'm trying to determine how it works. I thought I
could basically do it under a microscope, but this, err, strange....

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