It's like trying to pick out a conversation in an AIR-RAID SIREN
FACTORY!!!

Google should have some filter options so we can eliminate at least
some of these advertisements for fake Swiss watches, "Pleather"
suitases and other crap!

-ChrisCoaster

ChrisCoaster wrote:

It's like trying to pick out a conversation in an AIR-RAID SIREN
FACTORY!!!

Google should have some filter options so we can eliminate at least
some of these advertisements for fake Swiss watches, "Pleather"
suitases and other crap!


You just don't get it. Google is the source of all that crap, and the
longer it takes you to wade through the crap, the more money they get
for their paid advertising that is on every page you go to. If you want
to get rid of the crap dump Google groups and get an account on a real
news server.

Your IP address resolves to optonline.net. According to
http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm optonline.net has their own news
server, or a third party provider at news.optonline.net

All you need is any of the free news reader software, and to
configure the news server as news.optonline.net so you can use kill
filters, or a proxy server to do advanced filtering.

--

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

ChrisCoaster wrote:

It's like trying to pick out a conversation in an AIR-RAID SIREN
FACTORY!!!

Google should have some filter options so we can eliminate at least
some of these advertisements for fake Swiss watches, "Pleather"
suitases and other crap!


You just don't get it. Google is the source of all that crap, and the
longer it takes you to wade through the crap, the more money they get
for their paid advertising that is on every page you go to. If you want
to get rid of the crap dump Google groups and get an account on a real
news server.



You may as well preach that to a pile of rocks, I doubt many people who are
still using google groups are ever gonna figure it out.

James Sweet wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

ChrisCoaster wrote:

It's like trying to pick out a conversation in an AIR-RAID SIREN
FACTORY!!!

Google should have some filter options so we can eliminate at least
some of these advertisements for fake Swiss watches, "Pleather"
suitases and other crap!


You just don't get it. Google is the source of all that crap, and the
longer it takes you to wade through the crap, the more money they get
for their paid advertising that is on every page you go to. If you want
to get rid of the crap dump Google groups and get an account on a real
news server.



You may as well preach that to a pile of rocks, I doubt many people who are
still using google groups are ever gonna figure it out.


They will, when everyone killfilkes everything from google groups. I
am already flagging all the messages with News Proxy. All I have to do
is change the filter from flag to drop and I'll never see any of them
again. They are like the brain damaged idiots who try to convince you
that their WebTV is better than a computer.


--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html


Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm

On Apr 15, 10:49*pm, "James Sweet" wrote:
You may as well preach that to a pile of rocks, I doubt many people who are
still using google groups are ever gonna figure it out.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If any of you know of a way other than Google Groups to access usenet
that doesn't require
NNTP access I'm all ears... I got an account at Motzarella.org, a free
news server mentioned
in an earlier thread, and have not been able to access their server.
I spent two evenings
going back and forth with their tech support guy, who was very
helpful, gave me alternate
ports to try, direct IP addresses to try via Telnet, pinging their
servers, nothing worked -
"Cannot Access Server". "Details" showed a Code of 800ccc0e in every
case. (using OE)
Finally gave up figuring the ports were being blocked by the firewall
on my end.
Tried Giganews tonight. Did'nt sign up for an account, but configured
OE to access their
server. I figured I should get a Login Failed if I tried to log in
without an account there,
but got the same Cannot Access Server error in OE. At this point I
wouldn't mind a
paid account, the rates are pretty reasonable, but I don't want to pay
for an account and
be unable to access their server. Any ideas?

Mike WB2MEP

I'm using the Trollkiller program to filter the crap out and it works
fine.

Mike WB2MEP wrote:

On Apr 15, 10:49 pm, "James Sweet" wrote:
You may as well preach that to a pile of rocks, I doubt many people who are
still using google groups are ever gonna figure it out.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If any of you know of a way other than Google Groups to access usenet
that doesn't require
NNTP access I'm all ears... I got an account at Motzarella.org, a free
news server mentioned
in an earlier thread, and have not been able to access their server.
I spent two evenings
going back and forth with their tech support guy, who was very
helpful, gave me alternate
ports to try, direct IP addresses to try via Telnet, pinging their
servers, nothing worked -
"Cannot Access Server". "Details" showed a Code of 800ccc0e in every
case. (using OE)
Finally gave up figuring the ports were being blocked by the firewall
on my end.
Tried Giganews tonight. Did'nt sign up for an account, but configured
OE to access their
server. I figured I should get a Login Failed if I tried to log in
without an account there,
but got the same Cannot Access Server error in OE. At this point I
wouldn't mind a
paid account, the rates are pretty reasonable, but I don't want to pay
for an account and
be unable to access their server. Any ideas?


Giganews is OK, but Supernews was better about filtering spam and
trolls before it was borged into Giganews. It dropped any message from
Google Groups that was cross posted to five or more newsgroups.

I see that you are posting from lmco.com, so they probably have port
119 blocked with their corporate nannyware. Microdyne did the same
thing when I worked there. Earthlink outsourced their usenet service to
Supernews last August. Giganews borged it last month.

I don't know who you use for a personal ISP, so it's hard to give you
advice. Supposedly I can access Giganews from any place on earth by
using my Earthlink login.

--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html


Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm

In article ,
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

They will, when everyone killfilkes everything from google groups.

Then DO IT! Replying to them is adding to the problem.

ChrisCoaster wrote:
It's like trying to pick out a conversation in an AIR-RAID SIREN
FACTORY!!!

Google should have some filter options so we can eliminate at least
some of these advertisements for fake Swiss watches, "Pleather"
suitases and other crap!

-ChrisCoaster

What advertisments would they be then? Ohhh you use Gogle.. there`s your
problem, get a proper newsreader and filter the buggers out!

On Apr 15, 10:29*pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:
ChrisCoasterwrote:

It's like trying to pick out a conversation in an AIR-RAID SIREN
FACTORY!!!

Google should have some filter options so we can eliminate at least
some of these advertisements for fake Swiss watches, "Pleather"
suitases and other crap!

* *You just don't get it. Google is the source of all that crap, and the
longer it takes you to wade through the crap, the more money they get
for their paid advertising that is on every page you go to. If you want
to get rid of the crap dump Google groups and get an account on a real
news server.

* *Your IP address resolves to optonline.net. *According tohttp://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htmoptonline.net has their own news
server, or a third party provider at news.optonline.net

* *All you need is any of the free news reader software, and to
configure the news server as news.optonline.net so you can use kill
filters, or a proxy server to do advanced filtering.

--

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account:http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm
_____________________
I have a degree in Managment Information Systems - I don't know how to
set up one once I've downloaded it!

ChrisCoaster wrote:

I have a degree in Managment Information Systems - I don't know how to
set up one once I've downloaded it!

What did you download? Each one is different. They all are similar
to what follows:

I still like the old Netscape 4.78 mail and news reader software, AKA
Netscape Communicator, 4.78. It is easy to configure, threads well, and
you can archive messages into folders for future reference. Once you
install and open the program you select 'Edit', 'Preferences' and a new
window opens. You select 'News servers' and 'add'. Type in the name of
the news server and click ok. Then click on 'file' 'subscribe'. A
window will open for your email address from your ISP. Then another
will open for the password for that account.

The NNTP server will give you a list of all the available newsgroups,
in alphabetical order. You can scroll down through the thousands of
names, or use the search feature with 'electronics' to see any newsgroup
with that as part of it's name. Click on the ones you want to use, then
click on 'OK'. After that, all you have to do is select the group you
want to read from the list of groups you are subscribed to, and enjoy.
You can select view: messages: Unread to hide everything you've read.
You can create kill filters per newsgroup, or install Newsproxy to
filter the losers from every newsgroup you read.


--
http://improve-usenet.org/index.html


Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm

On Apr 16, 5:30*pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:
ChrisCoasterwrote:

I have a degree in Managment Information Systems - I don't know how to
set up one once I've downloaded it!

* *What did you download? *Each one is different. They all are similar
to what follows:


Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account:http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm
____________________
I downloaded "Grabit". I put I what I knew was my ATT/Yahoo
newsreader info, but it didn't work. As I said, I have a worthless IT
degree that hides a crack on my wall, and I don't know how to do this
advanced configuration stuff.

-CC

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

snip
I still like the old Netscape 4.78 mail and news reader software, AKA
Netscape Communicator, 4.78.

snip

You can create kill filters per newsgroup, or install Newsproxy to
filter the losers from every newsgroup you read.

I liked 4.78 too but had to migrate to 7.2 for browser features.
How did you get the filters to do useful work for newsgroups?
The filters in 7.2 only work on 'sender' (not a canonical field),
'subject' and 'date' headers and are essentially useless for
the current state of affairs.

Michael

On Apr 16, 5:30*pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote:

I have a degree in Managment Information Systems - I don't know how to
set up one once I've downloaded it!

* *What did you download? *Each one is different. They all are similar
to what follows:

* *I still like the old Netscape 4.78 mail and news reader software, AKA
Netscape Communicator, 4.78. *It is easy to configure, threads well, and
you can archive messages into folders for future reference. *Once you
install and open the program you select 'Edit', 'Preferences' and a new
window opens. *You select 'News servers' and 'add'. *Type in the name of
the news server and click ok. *Then click on 'file' 'subscribe'. *A
window will open for your email address from your ISP. *Then another
will open for the password for that account.

* *The NNTP server will give you a list of all the available newsgroups,
in alphabetical order. *You can scroll down through the thousands of
names, or use the search feature with 'electronics' to see any newsgroup
with that as part of it's name. Click on the ones you want to use, then
click on 'OK'. *After that, all you have to do is select the group you
want to read from the list of groups you are subscribed to, and enjoy.
You can select view: messages: Unread to hide everything you've read.
You can create kill filters per newsgroup, or install Newsproxy to
filter the losers from every newsgroup you read.

--http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account:http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm
___________________
I managed to download Grabit beta 1.7.1 and have configured it to read
news from optimum online. It compiled a list of groups, from which I
subscribed to s.e.r(this group) but cannot view the group!! Help!!!

-CC

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:12:50 -0700 (PDT), ChrisCoaster wrote:
On Apr 16, 5:30?pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote:

I have a degree in Managment Information Systems - I don't know
how to set up one once I've downloaded it!

Precisely why I walked away from a 31-year career in computers. Too
many 'Managment Information Systems Experts' showed up and ruined it
for me, my colleagues, and our customers

Scott Adams is not guilty of hyperbole.

msg wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

snip
I still like the old Netscape 4.78 mail and news reader software, AKA
Netscape Communicator, 4.78.

snip

You can create kill filters per newsgroup, or install Newsproxy to
filter the losers from every newsgroup you read.

I liked 4.78 too but had to migrate to 7.2 for browser features.
How did you get the filters to do useful work for newsgroups?
The filters in 7.2 only work on 'sender' (not a canonical field),
'subject' and 'date' headers and are essentially useless for
the current state of affairs.

Go to the link below and install newsproxy.


--
http://improve-usenet.org/index.html


Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm

ChrisCoaster wrote:

On Apr 16, 5:30 pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote:

I have a degree in Managment Information Systems - I don't know how to
set up one once I've downloaded it!

What did you download? Each one is different. They all are similar
to what follows:

I still like the old Netscape 4.78 mail and news reader software, AKA
Netscape Communicator, 4.78. It is easy to configure, threads well, and
you can archive messages into folders for future reference. Once you
install and open the program you select 'Edit', 'Preferences' and a new
window opens. You select 'News servers' and 'add'. Type in the name of
the news server and click ok. Then click on 'file' 'subscribe'. A
window will open for your email address from your ISP. Then another
will open for the password for that account.

The NNTP server will give you a list of all the available newsgroups,
in alphabetical order. You can scroll down through the thousands of
names, or use the search feature with 'electronics' to see any newsgroup
with that as part of it's name. Click on the ones you want to use, then
click on 'OK'. After that, all you have to do is select the group you
want to read from the list of groups you are subscribed to, and enjoy.
You can select view: messages: Unread to hide everything you've read.
You can create kill filters per newsgroup, or install Newsproxy to
filter the losers from every newsgroup you read.

--http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account:http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm
___________________
I managed to download Grabit beta 1.7.1 and have configured it to read
news from optimum online. It compiled a list of groups, from which I
subscribed to s.e.r(this group) but cannot view the group!! Help!!!


Try clicking on this link: news:sci.electronics.repair to see if
outlook express will open and configure it for you. It worked with
netscape for me, years ago. that was how I found usenet. Someone
posted a hotlink to a newsgroup and my ISP used the news.***.*** format.
It opened and subscribed me to that newsgroup, and the rest is history.



--
http://improve-usenet.org/index.html


Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM

If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in
your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm

Mike WB2MEP wrote in
:

On Apr 15, 10:49*pm, "James Sweet" wrote:
You may as well preach that to a pile of rocks, I doubt many people who
ar
e
still using google groups are ever gonna figure it out.- Hide quoted
text
-

- Show quoted text -

If any of you know of a way other than Google Groups to access usenet
that doesn't require
NNTP access I'm all ears... I got an account at Motzarella.org, a free
news server mentioned
in an earlier thread, and have not been able to access their server.
I spent two evenings
going back and forth with their tech support guy, who was very
helpful, gave me alternate
ports to try, direct IP addresses to try via Telnet, pinging their
servers, nothing worked -
"Cannot Access Server". "Details" showed a Code of 800ccc0e in every
case. (using OE)
Finally gave up figuring the ports were being blocked by the firewall
on my end.
Tried Giganews tonight. Did'nt sign up for an account, but configured
OE to access their
server. I figured I should get a Login Failed if I tried to log in
without an account there,
but got the same Cannot Access Server error in OE. At this point I
wouldn't mind a
paid account, the rates are pretty reasonable, but I don't want to pay
for an account and
be unable to access their server. Any ideas?

Mike WB2MEP

You are paying YOUR ISP for service. Check with their tech support.

They may be blocking NNTP ports for some reason. Do you run a
router/firewall? It may be set up to block everything but outgoing port 80
and responses.

--
bz 73 de N5BZ k

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap

On Apr 15, 6:16*pm, ChrisCoaster wrote:
It's like trying to pick out a conversation in an AIR-RAID SIREN
FACTORY!!!

Google should have some filter options so we can eliminate at least
some of these advertisements for fake Swiss watches, "Pleather"
suitases and other crap!

-ChrisCoaster


I use the free "Trollkiller" program for Google groups:

http://www.source9.com/trollkiller.html

Works very well for me.

Ken Layton
Olympia, Wash.

James Sweet wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
ChrisCoaster wrote:
It's like trying to pick out a conversation in an AIR-RAID SIREN
FACTORY!!!

Google should have some filter options so we can eliminate at least
some of these advertisements for fake Swiss watches, "Pleather"
suitases and other crap!

You just don't get it. Google is the source of all that crap, and the
longer it takes you to wade through the crap, the more money they get
for their paid advertising that is on every page you go to. If you want
to get rid of the crap dump Google groups and get an account on a real
news server.



You may as well preach that to a pile of rocks, I doubt many people who are
still using google groups are ever gonna figure it out.



I wonder if we can complain to Google about this - seems like (idiot)
@watchesblog.cn has so far posted 4700 odd spam messages in a few days...

I'm at least going to send off a few notes to anyone I can find at
Google about this.

John :-#(#

--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the newsgroup)
John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

On Apr 17, 11:12*am, Ken Layton wrote:
On Apr 15, wrote:

It's like trying to pick out a conversation in an AIR-RAID SIREN
FACTORY!!!

Google should have some filter options so we can eliminate at least
some of these advertisements for fake Swiss watches, "Pleather"
suitases and other crap!

-ChrisCoaster

I use the free "Trollkiller" program for Google groups:

http://www.source9.com/trollkiller.html

Works very well for me.

Ken Layton
Olympia, Wash.
______________________________-
Ken:

None of this:

} } TROLLKILLER Help
After installation browse to Goggle Groups (http://groups.google.com)
in Internet Explorer or Firefox (depending on which version of
TROLLKILLER you installed). The plug-in will load in the Windows task
bar for the Internet Explorer version once you search and are in an
actual group thread, i.e., search result. The Firefox version installs
in the bottom of the browser itself. It will activate once you're on a
thread.

In Internet Explorer you will double click on the Source Nine icon in
the Windows task bar to bring up the control window. In Firefox you
click the launch button on the bottom of your browser.

Once the control window is up you will see the tabs for the different
functions. The "Page" view shows all the users who have comments on
the thread you're viewing. You can select one or more names here and
click the "Block Selected User" to add them to the blocked list. You
can also manually enter a user name if for some reason it does not
appear in the list. "Users" shows currently blocked users and allows
you to unblock them if so desired. "Settings" contains a few general
features like disabling and enabling all blocking and place holder
style.

Currently TROLLKILLER only works on the United { {

Happens! I have Windows Vista, which probably has 90% to do with it
not working as stated above.

I TOLD you, I have an IT degree - therefore I am USELESS when it comes
to figuring out these types of issues! All they taught us about were
mainframes and database theory!! What a waste of $40large...

-CC

On Apr 17, 11:12*am, Ken Layton wrote:
On Apr 15, 6:16*pm, ChrisCoaster wrote:

It's like trying to pick out a conversation in an AIR-RAID SIREN
FACTORY!!!

Google should have some filter options so we can eliminate at least
some of these advertisements for fake Swiss watches, "Pleather"
suitases and other crap!

-ChrisCoaster

I use the free "Trollkiller" program for Google groups:

http://www.source9.com/trollkiller.html

Works very well for me.

Ken Layton
Olympia, Wash.
________________________
Not to mention, but I cannot FIND the damn thing once it has been
downloaded & installed!

-CC

I have Vista, IE7. Trollkiller didn't work when I first got it, but a
simple email to them solved my problem. Seems I needed a different
file. It's been working great for me going on 3 months now.

On Apr 19, 12:07*pm, Ken Layton wrote:
I have Vista, IE7. Trollkiller didn't work when I first got it, but a
simple email to them solved my problem. Seems I needed a different
file. It's been working great for me going on 3 months now.
________________
Just contacted them via their Contact Form. I hope they can help me
as they did you. Seems we both have the same setups.

I think second to Millennium Edition, Vista will go down as
Microsoft's most hated OS ever.

=D

-CC