John Larkin wrote:

We have something they don't: an enormous capacity to make food.

Don't worry. They will eat you up.

Well, just think about the negotiation sessions:

"We have food. You have oil. Wanna do business?"

What business? What oil? The oil it what Iraq is intended for.


VLV

Jim Thompson wrote:

http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...%7D&siteid=rss

Feb. 26, 2008

.................................................. ................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.


Or, the dollar drops to $101.11 per barrel. That's about 66.96 EU/
barrel. There's a good change that if you offered to settle in Euros,
most oil producers would quote you a better rate than that.

--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
Life is like an analogy.

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...
Jim Thompson wrote:

http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...%7D&siteid=rss

Feb. 26, 2008

.................................................. ................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.


Or, the dollar drops to $101.11 per barrel. That's about 66.96 EU/
barrel. There's a good change that if you offered to settle in Euros,
most oil producers would quote you a better rate than that.

--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
Life is like an analogy.



That's the right way to look at the transition. In 2003 the EURO makers
said they will beat US because they hated Bush's arrogant act on Iraq, they
pushed to Arabic countries to use EURO as their standard currency. US
over-spent in every corner, that adds up to the mountain of fire.


...Jim Thompson
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America: Land of the Freedom Abusers, Because of the Rat *******s believe
in the daemon.

Jim Thompson wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...
Jim Thompson wrote:

http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...%7D&siteid=rss

Feb. 26, 2008

.................................................. ................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.


Or, the dollar drops to $101.11 per barrel. That's about 66.96 EU/
barrel. There's a good change that if you offered to settle in Euros,
most oil producers would quote you a better rate than that.

--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
Life is like an analogy.

That's the right way to look at the transition. In 2003 the EURO makers
said they will beat US because they hated Bush's arrogant act on Iraq,

Too paranoid. Put the aluminum foil hat back on.

The EU simply never allowed itself from being distracted from running
its economies and industries based on sound fiscal principles.

they pushed to Arabic countries to use EURO as their standard currency.

Wrong. OPEC will still take dollars, or a number of other currencies.
You just get quoted a different price, depending on what the demand for
your particular currency is.

Its like the marketplace in Cuba. There's the 'domestic' peso and the
convertible peso. The exchange rate on the convertible is much better
(even than official exchange rates) and, if you are fortunate enough to
have US dollars, magically, the empty shop shelves will be filled and
you become a favored customer.

The dollar is becoming to the rest of the world what the Cuban peso is
to the US dollar.

US over-spent in every corner, that adds up to the mountain of fire.

Which mountain and what fire is that?

--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
Time's fun when you're having flies. -- Kermit the Frog

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...
Jim Thompson wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...
Jim Thompson wrote:

http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...%7D&siteid=rss

Feb. 26, 2008

.................................................. ................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.


Or, the dollar drops to $101.11 per barrel. That's about 66.96 EU/
barrel. There's a good change that if you offered to settle in Euros,
most oil producers would quote you a better rate than that.

--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
Life is like an analogy.

That's the right way to look at the transition. In 2003 the EURO makers
said they will beat US because they hated Bush's arrogant act on Iraq,

Too paranoid. Put the aluminum foil hat back on.

The EU simply never allowed itself from being distracted from running
its economies and industries based on sound fiscal principles.


--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
Time's fun when you're having flies. -- Kermit the Frog


they pushed to Arabic countries to use EURO as their standard currency.



Wrong. OPEC will still take dollars, or a number of other currencies.
You just get quoted a different price, depending on what the demand for
your particular currency is.


Look up a dictionary for a term "Standard" Is the Dollar right now the
standard Currency of the world Dummy ? Go to Ebay, check out HongKong
items, they require EURO or Austrilian Dollar. Don't make a **** out of
yourself Stupid.

MooseFET wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...
Jim Thompson wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...
Jim Thompson wrote:
http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...%7D&siteid=rss

Feb. 26, 2008

.................................................. ................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.

Or, the dollar drops to $101.11 per barrel. That's about 66.96 EU/
barrel. There's a good change that if you offered to settle in Euros,
most oil producers would quote you a better rate than that.

--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
Life is like an analogy.
That's the right way to look at the transition. In 2003 the EURO makers
said they will beat US because they hated Bush's arrogant act on Iraq,
Too paranoid. Put the aluminum foil hat back on.

The EU simply never allowed itself from being distracted from running
its economies and industries based on sound fiscal principles.


--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
Time's fun when you're having flies. -- Kermit the Frog

they pushed to Arabic countries to use EURO as their standard currency.


Wrong. OPEC will still take dollars, or a number of other currencies.
You just get quoted a different price, depending on what the demand for
your particular currency is.


Look up a dictionary for a term "Standard" Is the Dollar right now the
standard Currency of the world Dummy ? Go to Ebay, check out HongKong
items, they require EURO or Austrilian Dollar. Don't make a **** out of
yourself Stupid.





Is little baby upset that her US dollars do not buy the same amount of
HK trash that they used to. Poseur. Impostor.

Jim Thompson wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...
Jim Thompson wrote:
http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...%7D&siteid=rss

Feb. 26, 2008

.................................................. ................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.

Or, the dollar drops to $101.11 per barrel. That's about 66.96 EU/
barrel. There's a good change that if you offered to settle in Euros,
most oil producers would quote you a better rate than that.

--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
Life is like an analogy.



That's the right way to look at the transition. In 2003 the EURO makers
said they will beat US because they hated Bush's arrogant act on Iraq, they
pushed to Arabic countries to use EURO as their standard currency. US
over-spent in every corner, that adds up to the mountain of fire.


...Jim Thompson

You sure as heck don't know the real Jim Thompson do you

JosephKK wrote:

[snip]

You sure as heck don't know the real Jim Thompson do you

They are really difficult to tell apart by the content alone.

--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
If you're ridin' ahead of the herd, take a look back every now and
then to make sure it's still there.

"Jim Thompson" wrote:


http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...%7D&siteid=rss

Feb. 26, 2008

................................................. .................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.


Some people think the imminent downfall of the US economy is going be
a much bigger problem. The mortgage crisis is just the beginning. I
sure hope the next president has more sense. China and other countries
have huge amounts of dollars. If the dollar is sinking deeper, they
will eventually cut their loss and dump their dollars at any price.

There is also good news: over here in euro-country the low dollar
compensates the high oil prices a bit.

--
Programmeren in Almere?
E-mail naar nico@nctdevpuntnl (punt=.)

On Feb 28, 1:33 pm, (Nico Coesel) wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote:

http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...7B40D68525%2DB...

Feb. 26, 2008

................................................. .................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.

Some people think the imminent downfall of the US economy is going be
a much bigger problem. The mortgage crisis is just the beginning. I
sure hope the next president has more sense. China and other countries
have huge amounts of dollars.

Rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. (with apologies
to Mark Twain)

If the dollar is sinking deeper, they
will eventually cut their loss and dump their dollars at any price.

Not likely. Old saying: "If you owe the bank $100k and can't pay,
you've got a problem. If you owe the bank $100M and can't pay, the
_bank_ has a problem."

Cheers,
James Arthur

James Arthur wrote:

On Feb 28, 1:33 pm, (Nico Coesel) wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote:

http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...7B40D68525%2DB...

Feb. 26, 2008

................................................. .................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.

Some people think the imminent downfall of the US economy is going be
a much bigger problem. The mortgage crisis is just the beginning. I
sure hope the next president has more sense. China and other countries
have huge amounts of dollars.

Rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. (with apologies
to Mark Twain)

If the dollar is sinking deeper, they
will eventually cut their loss and dump their dollars at any price.

Not likely. Old saying: "If you owe the bank $100k and can't pay,
you've got a problem. If you owe the bank $100M and can't pay, the
_bank_ has a problem."

Or just wait a while and $100M USD won't be that big a deal any more.

--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
Stupidity kills. But not nearly often enough.

On Feb 28, 7:39 pm, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote:
James Arthur wrote:

On Feb 28, 1:33 pm, (Nico Coesel) wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote:

http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...7B40D68525%2DB...

Feb. 26, 2008

................................................. .................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.

Some people think the imminent downfall of the US economy is going be
a much bigger problem. The mortgage crisis is just the beginning. I
sure hope the next president has more sense. China and other countries
have huge amounts of dollars.

Rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. (with apologies
to Mark Twain)

If the dollar is sinking deeper, they
will eventually cut their loss and dump their dollars at any price.

Not likely. Old saying: "If you owe the bank $100k and can't pay,
you've got a problem. If you owe the bank $100M and can't pay, the
_bank_ has a problem."

Or just wait a while and $100M USD won't be that big a deal any more.

The perfect time to repay.

Cheers,
James Arthur

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...
James Arthur wrote:

On Feb 28, 1:33 pm, (Nico Coesel) wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote:

http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...7B40D68525%2DB...

Feb. 26, 2008

................................................. .................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.

Some people think the imminent downfall of the US economy is going be
a much bigger problem. The mortgage crisis is just the beginning. I
sure hope the next president has more sense. China and other countries
have huge amounts of dollars.

Rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. (with apologies
to Mark Twain)

If the dollar is sinking deeper, they
will eventually cut their loss and dump their dollars at any price.

Not likely. Old saying: "If you owe the bank $100k and can't pay,
you've got a problem. If you owe the bank $100M and can't pay, the
_bank_ has a problem."

Or just wait a while and $100M USD won't be that big a deal any more.

--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
Stupidity kills. But not nearly often enough.



Right now $500 is no big deal. At a restaurant I paid a $100 for dinner
for 3. It used to be $35. You stupid kid have no experience in life, don't
try to be an expert ****ing Jerk.

MooseFET wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
...
James Arthur wrote:
On Feb 28, 1:33 pm, (Nico Coesel) wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote:

http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...7B40D68525%2DB...
Feb. 26, 2008
.................................................. ................................................
As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.
Some people think the imminent downfall of the US economy is going be
a much bigger problem. The mortgage crisis is just the beginning. I
sure hope the next president has more sense. China and other countries
have huge amounts of dollars.
Rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. (with apologies
to Mark Twain)

If the dollar is sinking deeper, they
will eventually cut their loss and dump their dollars at any price.
Not likely. Old saying: "If you owe the bank $100k and can't pay,
you've got a problem. If you owe the bank $100M and can't pay, the
_bank_ has a problem."
Or just wait a while and $100M USD won't be that big a deal any more.

--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
Stupidity kills. But not nearly often enough.



Right now $500 is no big deal. At a restaurant I paid a $100 for dinner
for 3. It used to be $35. You stupid kid have no experience in life, don't
try to be an expert ****ing Jerk.









Oh look, the impostor child lies again.

James Arthur wrote:
On Feb 28, 1:33 pm, (Nico Coesel) wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote:

http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...7B40D68525%2DB...
Feb. 26, 2008
.................................................. ................................................
As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.
Some people think the imminent downfall of the US economy is going be
a much bigger problem. The mortgage crisis is just the beginning. I
sure hope the next president has more sense. China and other countries
have huge amounts of dollars.

Rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. (with apologies
to Mark Twain)

If the dollar is sinking deeper, they
will eventually cut their loss and dump their dollars at any price.

Not likely. Old saying: "If you owe the bank $100k and can't pay,
you've got a problem. If you owe the bank $100M and can't pay, the
_bank_ has a problem."

Cheers,
James Arthur

That is part of the issue with the mortgage crisis, and the reason for
the bank bail outs. They have been in the news a little. Almost 100
Billion dollars so far.

"James Arthur" skrev i en meddelelse
...
On Feb 28, 1:33 pm, (Nico Coesel) wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote:

http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...7B40D68525%2DB...

Feb. 26, 2008

................................................. .................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.

Some people think the imminent downfall of the US economy is going be
a much bigger problem. The mortgage crisis is just the beginning. I
sure hope the next president has more sense. China and other countries
have huge amounts of dollars.

Rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. (with apologies
to Mark Twain)

If the dollar is sinking deeper, they
will eventually cut their loss and dump their dollars at any price.

Not likely. Old saying: "If you owe the bank $100k and can't pay,
you've got a problem. If you owe the bank $100M and can't pay, the
_bank_ has a problem."

Cheers,
James Arthur

It is happening right now. The dumping of USD is what is driving the boom in
commodities and gold: Chinese and Arabs discretely lightening up on the USD
and buying "things of value".

The EUR is not safe a safe buy either because the ECB should have increased
rates already and they haven't - people are betting that the ECB do not dare
to let the Euro rise too much above the USD and will lower rates too
possibly in June. If the ECB does the right thing by *not* cutting rates in
June it is "all over" for the USD.

On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:34:53 +0100, "Frithiof Andreas Jensen"
wrote:


"James Arthur" skrev i en meddelelse
...
On Feb 28, 1:33 pm, (Nico Coesel) wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote:

http://www.marke****ch.com/news/stor...7B40D68525%2DB...

Feb. 26, 2008

................................................. .................................................

As the broader market began to regain lost ground, crude prices for
April delivery gained 2.3% to a new high of $101.11 a barrel on the
New York Mercantile Exchange, surpassing crude's last record of
$100.65 hit last week.

Some people think the imminent downfall of the US economy is going be
a much bigger problem. The mortgage crisis is just the beginning. I
sure hope the next president has more sense. China and other countries
have huge amounts of dollars.

Rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. (with apologies
to Mark Twain)

If the dollar is sinking deeper, they
will eventually cut their loss and dump their dollars at any price.

Not likely. Old saying: "If you owe the bank $100k and can't pay,
you've got a problem. If you owe the bank $100M and can't pay, the
_bank_ has a problem."

Cheers,
James Arthur

It is happening right now. The dumping of USD is what is driving the boom in
commodities and gold: Chinese and Arabs discretely lightening up on the USD
and buying "things of value".

The EUR is not safe a safe buy either because the ECB should have increased
rates already and they haven't - people are betting that the ECB do not dare
to let the Euro rise too much above the USD and will lower rates too
possibly in June. If the ECB does the right thing by *not* cutting rates in
June it is "all over" for the USD.



How long does "All over" last? This is mostly the usual market
psychology positive feedback nonsense, stupid money following smart
money. There's no fundamental reason for the Euro to keep climbing
against the dollar. This is just a bit of noise and ringing in the
system.

As far as I'm concerned, if a bunch of Arabs and Chinese enjoy buying
dollars when they're high, and selling them when they're low, why
should we interfere with their fun? We had similar fun with the
Japanese a while back, selling them buildings and golf courses for
gigabucks a pop and buying them back later for a fraction.

But should I raise my european pricing, and make more money now, or
keep it the same and swipe market share, which might be better in the
long term?

John

"John Larkin" skrev i en
meddelelse ...
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:34:53 +0100, "Frithiof Andreas Jensen"
wrote:

How long does "All over" last?

Forever - Until a new fiat currency is created, which will eventually
implode too. Destruction through lack of confidence, fraud or oversupply of
money is part of the natural life cycle of currencies.

This is mostly the usual market
psychology positive feedback nonsense, stupid money following smart
money. There's no fundamental reason for the Euro to keep climbing
against the dollar. This is just a bit of noise and ringing in the
system.

Interest rates in EUR are higher than in USD. That's pretty fundamental. The
EUR will climb to at least the level where one gets the same returns - and
of course the EUR will continue higher as long as Bernanke is spamming the
world with US paper.

As far as I'm concerned, if a bunch of Arabs and Chinese enjoy buying
dollars when they're high, and selling them when they're low, why
should we interfere with their fun? We had similar fun with the
Japanese a while back, selling them buildings and golf courses for
gigabucks a pop and buying them back later for a fraction.

Eventually even people as stupid and inbred as the Chinese central bankers
and Arab "investors" obviously are will grow tired of that particular game
.... and who will then be the buyer of US denominated paper? Anyone *more*
stupid around?? Normally one runs out of stupid buyers on the end of an
upcycle - doing it on the downswing is not so good.

But should I raise my european pricing, and make more money now, or
keep it the same and swipe market share, which might be better in the
long term?

Does any of all that matter if all you happen to "produce" is rebranded
chink stuff and the Chinese decide to cut out the American middle man and
get paid directly to EUR? The native US manufacturers, you might be among
them, are doing Ok but they are too few to stem the bleeding!

John