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how to wash electro-static air cleaner
I have a electro-static air cleaner.
This electrical system init is inside the air-condition/heater air duct. This system has a removable electro-static charged plates in the air flow. In time, these plates are coated with dirt. I can wipe it off using a Q-tip. But these fins are too narrow gaps to wash. I tried Windex and did not do much. Is there a good way to wash off these dust & dirt? |
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"AJackson" wrote in message .. . I have a electro-static air cleaner. This electrical system init is inside the air-condition/heater air duct. This system has a removable electro-static charged plates in the air flow. In time, these plates are coated with dirt. I can wipe it off using a Q-tip. But these fins are too narrow gaps to wash. I tried Windex and did not do much. Is there a good way to wash off these dust & dirt? Pressure washer and plain water. If your garden hose has good pressure, that might do it. |
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"AJackson" wrote in
: I have a electro-static air cleaner. This electrical system init is inside the air-condition/heater air duct. This system has a removable electro-static charged plates in the air flow. In time, these plates are coated with dirt. I can wipe it off using a Q-tip. But these fins are too narrow gaps to wash. I tried Windex and did not do much. Is there a good way to wash off these dust & dirt? will it fit in your auto dishwasher? that will degrease it nicely. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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AJackson wrote:
I have a electro-static air cleaner. This electrical system init is inside the air-condition/heater air duct. This system has a removable electro-static charged plates in the air flow. In time, these plates are coated with dirt. I can wipe it off using a Q-tip. But these fins are too narrow gaps to wash. I tried Windex and did not do much. Is there a good way to wash off these dust & dirt? dishwasher -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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Jim Yanik wrote:
"AJackson" wrote in : I have a electro-static air cleaner. This electrical system init is inside the air-condition/heater air duct. This system has a removable electro-static charged plates in the air flow. In time, these plates are coated with dirt. I can wipe it off using a Q-tip. But these fins are too narrow gaps to wash. I tried Windex and did not do much. Is there a good way to wash off these dust & dirt? will it fit in your auto dishwasher? that will degrease it nicely. Hi... That's what the manufacturer suggested for mine; but I found the idea to be at best a bit unappetizing... Far better, for me at least, was to hose it down vigorously in the driveway. Take care. Ken |
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 13:02:02 -0700, "AJackson"
wrote: I have a electro-static air cleaner. This electrical system init is inside the air-condition/heater air duct. This system has a removable electro-static charged plates in the air flow. In time, these plates are coated with dirt. I can wipe it off using a Q-tip. But these fins are too narrow gaps to wash. I tried Windex and did not do much. Is there a good way to wash off these dust & dirt? Pressure washer D from BC |
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Ken Weitzel wrote:
Jim Yanik wrote: "AJackson" wrote in : I have a electro-static air cleaner. This electrical system init is inside the air-condition/heater air duct. This system has a removable electro-static charged plates in the air flow. In time, these plates are coated with dirt. I can wipe it off using a Q-tip. But these fins are too narrow gaps to wash. I tried Windex and did not do much. Is there a good way to wash off these dust & dirt? will it fit in your auto dishwasher? that will degrease it nicely. Hi... That's what the manufacturer suggested for mine; but I found the idea to be at best a bit unappetizing... Your choice, but you breathe whatever crud is on it. Far better, for me at least, was to hose it down vigorously in the driveway. Take care. Ken -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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"AJackson" wrote in message .. . I have a electro-static air cleaner. This electrical system init is inside the air-condition/heater air duct. This system has a removable electro-static charged plates in the air flow. In time, these plates are coated with dirt. I can wipe it off using a Q-tip. But these fins are too narrow gaps to wash. I tried Windex and did not do much. Is there a good way to wash off these dust & dirt? I run them through the dishwasher, no need to use detergent but just a tiny bit helps. |
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"James Sweet" wrote in message news:OdEji.227$qu5.136@trndny02... "AJackson" wrote in message .. . I have a electro-static air cleaner. This electrical system init is inside the air-condition/heater air duct. This system has a removable electro-static charged plates in the air flow. In time, these plates are coated with dirt. I can wipe it off using a Q-tip. But these fins are too narrow gaps to wash. I tried Windex and did not do much. Is there a good way to wash off these dust & dirt? I run them through the dishwasher, no need to use detergent but just a tiny bit helps. You would want to use a detergent that is "safe" with aluminum. Or you can just hose it off, or soak it in dish soap and then hose it off. Watch out for the pressure washer - you could easily bend the precipitor plates. Bob |
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CJT wrote:
Ken Weitzel wrote: Jim Yanik wrote: "AJackson" wrote in : I have a electro-static air cleaner. This electrical system init is inside the air-condition/heater air duct. This system has a removable electro-static charged plates in the air flow. In time, these plates are coated with dirt. I can wipe it off using a Q-tip. But these fins are too narrow gaps to wash. I tried Windex and did not do much. Is there a good way to wash off these dust & dirt? will it fit in your auto dishwasher? that will degrease it nicely. Hi... That's what the manufacturer suggested for mine; but I found the idea to be at best a bit unappetizing... Your choice, but you breathe whatever crud is on it. Probably the dust contains quite a bit of polonium etc. like the dust that sticks to TV screens. If you wipe down a recently used TV and try it with a geiger counter, it's quite interesting. I think it comes from the decay products of radon. If the dust is left for a few days then it is no longer noticeably radioactive. http://www.blackcatsystems.com/science/radiation.html Chris |
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"CJT" wrote in message
... Ken Weitzel wrote: Hi... That's what the manufacturer suggested for mine; but I found the idea to be at best a bit unappetizing... Your choice, but you breathe whatever crud is on it. Far better, for me at least, was to hose it down vigorously in the driveway. Take care. Ken The brand: White Rogers, Electro-Air Super Slim Twin, Electo-Air Cleaner. Model: SST. Model # 20C26S-01002. We tried: Dishwasher, windex, 409, hosing it down, garden hose, -- not effective. It still has lots of continous spark when the air-conditioner is running. |
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AJackson wrote:
"CJT" wrote in message ... Ken Weitzel wrote: Hi... That's what the manufacturer suggested for mine; but I found the idea to be at best a bit unappetizing... Your choice, but you breathe whatever crud is on it. Far better, for me at least, was to hose it down vigorously in the driveway. Take care. Ken The brand: White Rogers, Electro-Air Super Slim Twin, Electo-Air Cleaner. Model: SST. Model # 20C26S-01002. We tried: Dishwasher, windex, 409, hosing it down, garden hose, -- not effective. It still has lots of continous spark when the air-conditioner is running. Either the dirt is not on the plates, but elsewhere in the device, or else you've bent one or more of the plates. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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In article , CJT wrote:
Ken Weitzel wrote: Jim Yanik wrote: "AJackson" wrote in : I have a electro-static air cleaner. This electrical system init is inside the air-condition/heater air duct. This system has a removable electro-static charged plates in the air flow. In time, these plates are coated with dirt. I can wipe it off using a Q-tip. But these fins are too narrow gaps to wash. I tried Windex and did not do much. Is there a good way to wash off these dust & dirt? will it fit in your auto dishwasher? that will degrease it nicely. Hi... That's what the manufacturer suggested for mine; but I found the idea to be at best a bit unappetizing... Your choice, but you breathe whatever crud is on it. When it sticks to it, it does not come off to breath. Especially smoke particles are best taken off by spraying with a harsh cleaner like Castrol Superclean or Greased Lightning. Spray it on, let soak, and wash it off. repeat if necessary. Large dust particles should first be driven off with an outside air gun or water hose. greg |
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In article , Chris Jones wrote:
CJT wrote: Ken Weitzel wrote: Jim Yanik wrote: "AJackson" wrote in : I have a electro-static air cleaner. This electrical system init is inside the air-condition/heater air duct. This system has a removable electro-static charged plates in the air flow. In time, these plates are coated with dirt. I can wipe it off using a Q-tip. But these fins are too narrow gaps to wash. I tried Windex and did not do much. Is there a good way to wash off these dust & dirt? will it fit in your auto dishwasher? that will degrease it nicely. Hi... That's what the manufacturer suggested for mine; but I found the idea to be at best a bit unappetizing... Your choice, but you breathe whatever crud is on it. Probably the dust contains quite a bit of polonium etc. like the dust that sticks to TV screens. If you wipe down a recently used TV and try it with a geiger counter, it's quite interesting. I think it comes from the decay products of radon. If the dust is left for a few days then it is no longer noticeably radioactive. http://www.blackcatsystems.com/science/radiation.html I have tried to measure with hand counters and can no get anything to register. You really need a long term monitor to measure very small traces. While I have not actually tried the TV, I have tried carbon filters. There might be a film or discoloring or corrosion on the plates which will only slighty affect performance. greg Chris |
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On Jul 6, 7:46 pm, Ken Weitzel wrote:
That's what the manufacturer suggested for mine; but I found the idea to be at best a bit unappetizing... A good dishwasher (makes and) uses 180F water, a strong chlorine- bleach/phosphorous-based detergent and considerable heat to dry. It also will accept and clean (properly) unrinsed plates complete with pasta-sauce and small bits of food, fine china and so forth. I am not so sure which is less appetizing: congealed food, grease and gravy or dust and oils taken out of the air that... coincidentally.... we also breath. Either way, the actual quantities involved inside that filter are in the milligrams vs. the many grams on a single dinner plate. The dishwasher (if a good one) is the way to go. You just might be shocked and amazed at what has gone through our unit, with uniformly good results. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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In article . com, " wrote:
On Jul 6, 7:46 pm, Ken Weitzel wrote: That's what the manufacturer suggested for mine; but I found the idea to be at best a bit unappetizing... A good dishwasher (makes and) uses 180F water, a strong chlorine- bleach/phosphorous-based detergent and considerable heat to dry. It also will accept and clean (properly) unrinsed plates complete with pasta-sauce and small bits of food, fine china and so forth. I am not so sure which is less appetizing: congealed food, grease and gravy or dust and oils taken out of the air that... coincidentally.... we also breath. Either way, the actual quantities involved inside that filter are in the milligrams vs. the many grams on a single dinner plate. The dishwasher (if a good one) is the way to go. You just might be shocked and amazed at what has gone through our unit, with uniformly good results. If the assembly is plastic, I would be carefull with heat. You can also cook fish in the dishwasher. greg |
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On Jul 9, 12:11 pm, (GregS) wrote:
If the assembly is plastic, I would be carefull with heat. You can also cook fish in the dishwasher. Top rack. One "steams" fish in a dishwasher. Cooking it is hardly the correct term. Bluefish does very nicely that way but I still prefer a traditional steamer.... Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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On Jul 9, 1:02 pm, Jim Yanik wrote:
I never use the dryer built into the dishwasher. for electronics,I use a temp-controlled drying oven. We have a unit that does not have an exposed drying element but uses hot air blown across an internal coil. So it is far more gentle on plastics than otherwise.I have put motors, circuit boards and all sorts of stuff through with no harm or residue. The most impressive 'clean' is when we put the grease-catching filters from the exhaust hood through, although the hot-tub filters are a close second. I would not use an exposed-element DW to dry anything electronic as you suggest. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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GregS wrote:
Especially smoke particles are best taken off by spraying with a harsh cleaner like Castrol Superclean or Greased Lightning. Spray it on, let soak, and wash it off. repeat if necessary. Large dust particles should first be driven off with an outside air gun or water hose. I found Simple Green, used full strength, to be great at melting off the nicotine film on stuff. -- Postulate a group whose intent is to destroy the United States from within via anarchy and bankruptcy. The actions of the United States Congress are completely consistent with the actions one would predict from such a group. |
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In article , Jim Yanik wrote:
(GregS) wrote in : In article , CJT wrote: Ken Weitzel wrote: Jim Yanik wrote: "AJackson" wrote in : I have a electro-static air cleaner. This electrical system init is inside the air-condition/heater air duct. This system has a removable electro-static charged plates in the air flow. In time, these plates are coated with dirt. I can wipe it off using a Q-tip. But these fins are too narrow gaps to wash. I tried Windex and did not do much. Is there a good way to wash off these dust & dirt? will it fit in your auto dishwasher? that will degrease it nicely. Hi... That's what the manufacturer suggested for mine; but I found the idea to be at best a bit unappetizing... Your choice, but you breathe whatever crud is on it. When it sticks to it, it does not come off to breath. Especially smoke particles are best taken off by spraying with a harsh cleaner like Castrol Superclean or Greased Lightning. Spray it on, let soak, and wash it off. repeat if necessary. Large dust particles should first be driven off with an outside air gun or water hose. greg Auto dishwasher detergent is superb at removing grease. Perhaps the detergent the OP used left a anti-spotting film and that's why the filter arcs. First time I heard that the filter arcs. If it arcs long, carbon traces can form, and that would be hard to clean up. greg |
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"GregS" wrote in message
... In article . com, " wrote: On Jul 6, 7:46 pm, Ken Weitzel wrote: That's what the manufacturer suggested for mine; but I found the idea to be at best a bit unappetizing... A good dishwasher (makes and) uses 180F water, a strong chlorine- bleach/phosphorous-based detergent and considerable heat to dry. It also will accept and clean (properly) unrinsed plates complete with pasta-sauce and small bits of food, fine china and so forth. I am not so sure which is less appetizing: congealed food, grease and gravy or dust and oils taken out of the air that... coincidentally.... we also breath. Either way, the actual quantities involved inside that filter are in the milligrams vs. the many grams on a single dinner plate. The dishwasher (if a good one) is the way to go. You just might be shocked and amazed at what has gone through our unit, with uniformly good results. If the assembly is plastic, I would be carefull with heat. You can also cook fish in the dishwasher. greg The entire assembly is metal. I think all the internal fins are aluminum or tin? |
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"AJackson" wrote in message news:46910df5$0$2091 The brand: White Rogers, Electro-Air Super Slim Twin, Electo-Air Cleaner. Model: SST. Model # 20C26S-01002. We tried: Dishwasher, windex, 409, hosing it down, garden hose, -- not effective. It still has lots of continous spark when the air-conditioner is running. Look for bent plates or broken wires. On one unit, just repositioning the element cured the problem. I couldn't figure out just why. (honeywell) Bob |
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"Bob F" wrote in message
... It still has lots of continous spark when the air-conditioner is running. Look for bent plates or broken wires. On one unit, just repositioning the element cured the problem. I couldn't figure out just why. (honeywell) Bob OK. Look and check, no broken wires or bent plates. However, inside the fins are coated with blackened dust. Unable to wash the dirt off inside. The wires are too thin to reach inside. |
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"AJackson" wrote in message .. . "Bob F" wrote in message ... It still has lots of continous spark when the air-conditioner is running. Look for bent plates or broken wires. On one unit, just repositioning the element cured the problem. I couldn't figure out just why. (honeywell) Bob OK. Look and check, no broken wires or bent plates. However, inside the fins are coated with blackened dust. Unable to wash the dirt off inside. The wires are too thin to reach inside. If you can open up the furnace front or other place so that you can watch the cleaner in operation, you might see where it is arcing. If it is primarily in one place, check that area carefully for damage. Bent plates can include barely visable differences in separation. Run the element through the dishwasher, or soak it in dish detergetnt then hose it off. Either should be sufficient. Bob |
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"Bob F" wrote in message news:db2dnZ-
If you can open up the furnace front or other place so that you can watch the cleaner in operation, you might see where it is arcing. If it is primarily in one place, check that area carefully for damage. Bent plates can include barely visable differences in separation. Run the element through the dishwasher, or soak it in dish detergetnt then hose it off. Either should be sufficient. Bob No, cannot close the Electro-Air Cleaner lid which plug the unit into AC power. |
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