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I work in manufacturing, not repair, and keep the human robots supplied
with .015, .020, .025, .031, .040, and .050 diameter solder. The range of things we work on makes having a broad selection helpful. But I wonder what repair techs use most frequently? (If I could only have one size, I'd go with the .025 I think.) Also I assume you guys on the other side of the ditch are using metric sizes? |
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"Smitty Two" wrote in message news I work in manufacturing, not repair, and keep the human robots supplied with .015, .020, .025, .031, .040, and .050 diameter solder. The range of things we work on makes having a broad selection helpful. But I wonder what repair techs use most frequently? (If I could only have one size, I'd go with the .025 I think.) Also I assume you guys on the other side of the ditch are using metric sizes? I use almost exclusively 0.7mm for general repair work. I also have a reel of 0.5mm for surface mount work, and some 1mm for 'heavy' work Arfa |
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Smitty Two wrote: I work in manufacturing, not repair, and keep the human robots supplied with .015, .020, .025, .031, .040, and .050 diameter solder. The range of things we work on makes having a broad selection helpful. But I wonder what repair techs use most frequently? (If I could only have one size, I'd go with the .025 I think.) Also I assume you guys on the other side of the ditch are using metric sizes? Yes. My home made dispenser has 1.2, 0.9, 0.7, 0.5mm and 0.9 is the most used one. But I do little SM stuff. -- *How many roads must a man travel down before he admits he is lost? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Arfa Daily" wrote in message ... "Smitty Two" wrote in message news I work in manufacturing, not repair, and keep the human robots supplied with .015, .020, .025, .031, .040, and .050 diameter solder. The range of things we work on makes having a broad selection helpful. But I wonder what repair techs use most frequently? (If I could only have one size, I'd go with the .025 I think.) Also I assume you guys on the other side of the ditch are using metric sizes? I use almost exclusively 0.7mm for general repair work. I also have a reel of 0.5mm for surface mount work, and some 1mm for 'heavy' work Arfa I just buy the smallest stuff I can find, it's the same cost per pound generally. Somewhere I have a roll of heavier stuff for big connections but usually I'm too lazy to go dig it out and just feed in a bunch of thin stuff. |
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In article xGHhi.582$105.445@trndny08,
James Sweet wrote: I use almost exclusively 0.7mm for general repair work. I also have a reel of 0.5mm for surface mount work, and some 1mm for 'heavy' work Arfa I just buy the smallest stuff I can find, it's the same cost per pound generally. Somewhere I have a roll of heavier stuff for big connections but usually I'm too lazy to go dig it out and just feed in a bunch of thin stuff. In the UK the most common size for leaded is 1.2mm and it's vastly cheaper than the smaller sizes. One quick comparison gives a 500 gm reel of 1.2 at 12.70 gbp, and a 500gm reel of 0.6 at 32.25, from the same maker (Multicore) -- *I get enough exercise just pushing my luck. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article xGHhi.582$105.445@trndny08, James Sweet wrote: I use almost exclusively 0.7mm for general repair work. I also have a reel of 0.5mm for surface mount work, and some 1mm for 'heavy' work Arfa I just buy the smallest stuff I can find, it's the same cost per pound generally. Somewhere I have a roll of heavier stuff for big connections but usually I'm too lazy to go dig it out and just feed in a bunch of thin stuff. In the UK the most common size for leaded is 1.2mm and it's vastly cheaper than the smaller sizes. One quick comparison gives a 500 gm reel of 1.2 at 12.70 gbp, and a 500gm reel of 0.6 at 32.25, from the same maker (Multicore) Blimey Dave ! I haven't used anything as thick of 1.2mm in about 20 years ! Even the 1mm that I have feels like you're soldering with welding rod ! d;~} Arfa |
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"Arfa Daily" wrote: "Smitty Two" wrote in message news I work in manufacturing, not repair, and keep the human robots supplied with .015, .020, .025, .031, .040, and .050 diameter solder. The range of things we work on makes having a broad selection helpful. But I wonder what repair techs use most frequently? (If I could only have one size, I'd go with the .025 I think.) Also I assume you guys on the other side of the ditch are using metric sizes? I use almost exclusively 0.7mm for general repair work. I also have a reel of 0.5mm for surface mount work, and some 1mm for 'heavy' work Arfa That sounds about right, then, now that I've translated them into meaningful U.S. style numbers. |
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Arfa Daily wrote: In the UK the most common size for leaded is 1.2mm and it's vastly cheaper than the smaller sizes. One quick comparison gives a 500 gm reel of 1.2 at 12.70 gbp, and a 500gm reel of 0.6 at 32.25, from the same maker (Multicore) Blimey Dave ! I haven't used anything as thick of 1.2mm in about 20 years ! Even the 1mm that I have feels like you're soldering with welding rod ! d;~} Yes - same here. But the fact remains it's much cheaper. -- *Never kick a cow pat on a hot day * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Arfa Daily wrote: In the UK the most common size for leaded is 1.2mm and it's vastly cheaper than the smaller sizes. One quick comparison gives a 500 gm reel of 1.2 at 12.70 gbp, and a 500gm reel of 0.6 at 32.25, from the same maker (Multicore) Blimey Dave ! I haven't used anything as thick of 1.2mm in about 20 years ! Even the 1mm that I have feels like you're soldering with welding rod ! d;~} Yes - same here. But the fact remains it's much cheaper. That's prob'ly coz they can't shift it ! Arfa |
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Arfa Daily wrote: Blimey Dave ! I haven't used anything as thick of 1.2mm in about 20 years ! Even the 1mm that I have feels like you're soldering with welding rod ! d;~} Yes - same here. But the fact remains it's much cheaper. That's prob'ly coz they can't shift it ! It's the most commonly sold size. You'll find it on sale in most DIY places - but very unlikely to find the thinner stuff there. -- *Sometimes I wake up grumpy; Other times I let him sleep. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Arfa Daily wrote: Blimey Dave ! I haven't used anything as thick of 1.2mm in about 20 years ! Even the 1mm that I have feels like you're soldering with welding rod ! d;~} Yes - same here. But the fact remains it's much cheaper. That's prob'ly coz they can't shift it ! It's the most commonly sold size. You'll find it on sale in most DIY places - but very unlikely to find the thinner stuff there. Are you sure that's not acid core plumbing solder? |
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In article pP8ii.8088$pa5.4761@trndny05,
James Sweet wrote: Blimey Dave ! I haven't used anything as thick of 1.2mm in about 20 years ! Even the 1mm that I have feels like you're soldering with welding rod ! d;~} Yes - same here. But the fact remains it's much cheaper. That's prob'ly coz they can't shift it ! It's the most commonly sold size. You'll find it on sale in most DIY places - but very unlikely to find the thinner stuff there. Are you sure that's not acid core plumbing solder? No. I take it you don't solder plumbing much either - that is usually 3mm diameter. 1.2mm (actually 1.219) is 18 swg and the most commonly available size - it's the only size the likes of Draper sell. Of course a decent electronics supplier will have a range of sizes. But that wasn't my point. -- *'Progress' and 'Change' are not synonyms. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article pP8ii.8088$pa5.4761@trndny05, James Sweet wrote: Blimey Dave ! I haven't used anything as thick of 1.2mm in about 20 years ! Even the 1mm that I have feels like you're soldering with welding rod ! d;~} Yes - same here. But the fact remains it's much cheaper. That's prob'ly coz they can't shift it ! It's the most commonly sold size. You'll find it on sale in most DIY places - but very unlikely to find the thinner stuff there. Are you sure that's not acid core plumbing solder? No. I take it you don't solder plumbing much either - that is usually 3mm diameter. 1.2mm (actually 1.219) is 18 swg and the most commonly available size - it's the only size the likes of Draper sell. Of course a decent electronics supplier will have a range of sizes. But that wasn't my point. I do quite a bit of plumbing, I've never measured the solder though and while I'm no stranger to metric, it's not as ingrained in my mind as imperial measurements. It's just been a while since I've seen any electronics solder as big as 1.2mm, even Ripoff Shack has it in smaller sizes. |
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In article Mriii.14452$MR5.14199@trndny02,
James Sweet wrote: Are you sure that's not acid core plumbing solder? No. I take it you don't solder plumbing much either - that is usually 3mm diameter. 1.2mm (actually 1.219) is 18 swg and the most commonly available size - it's the only size the likes of Draper sell. Of course a decent electronics supplier will have a range of sizes. But that wasn't my point. I do quite a bit of plumbing, I've never measured the solder though and while I'm no stranger to metric, it's not as ingrained in my mind as imperial measurements. It's just been a while since I've seen any electronics solder as big as 1.2mm, even Ripoff Shack has it in smaller sizes. Heh heh - swg or awg etc doesn't mean much to me either. Mains cable sizes in the UK have been listed by cross sectional area in mm˛ for some time, and I can just about recognise them. -- *All those who believe in psychokinesis, raise my hand * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In article , "Arfa Daily" wrote:
"Smitty Two" wrote in message news I work in manufacturing, not repair, and keep the human robots supplied with .015, .020, .025, .031, .040, and .050 diameter solder. The range of things we work on makes having a broad selection helpful. But I wonder what repair techs use most frequently? (If I could only have one size, I'd go with the .025 I think.) Also I assume you guys on the other side of the ditch are using metric sizes? I use almost exclusively 0.7mm for general repair work. I also have a reel of 0.5mm for surface mount work, and some 1mm for 'heavy' work Same here. I buy the lower temperature stuff. 66/44 greg |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Smitty Two wrote: I work in manufacturing, not repair, and keep the human robots supplied with .015, .020, .025, .031, .040, and .050 diameter solder. The range of things we work on makes having a broad selection helpful. But I wonder what repair techs use most frequently? (If I could only have one size, I'd go with the .025 I think.) Also I assume you guys on the other side of the ditch are using metric sizes? Yes. My home made dispenser has 1.2, 0.9, 0.7, 0.5mm and 0.9 is the most used one. But I do little SM stuff. Today, I added another useful little item to my arsenal of soldering tackle. It is tip re-tinner. Basically, it is a small 'cake' of quote "electronics grade solder powder and chemicals" set in a little tin, with a stickypad on the bottom to stick it to the bench - or in my case, on top of the Weller desoldering station. All of my irons are on all of the time ready to just snatch up and use as needed. The downside of this is that if they are not used for a couple of days, the tip oxidises up enough to make retinning a little difficult. Well, I don't know what the "chemicals" are in this little cake, but the lightest stroke of an oxidised tip across its surface, and it is gleaming again with perfect tin. Just happened to see it advertised on the front of a flyer that one of my suppliers sent me, and as I was ordering, thought I'd get some. Glad I did. It's certainly something that I won't be without in the future. Arfa |
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GregS wrote:
I buy the lower temperature stuff. 66/44 Thats 110 % -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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(known to some as Michael A. Terrell) scribed... GregS wrote: I buy the lower temperature stuff. 66/44 Thats 110 % "Yes friends, Whizzo Butter, with 10% More or Less, is absolutely indistinguishable from a dead crab!" (For those of you scratching your heads over this one, two words: Monty Python). -- Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute (Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR) http://www.bluefeathertech.com -- kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t calm "Salvadore Dali's computer has surreal ports..." |
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"Dr. Anton T. Squeegee" wrote:
In article , (known to some as Michael A. Terrell) scribed... GregS wrote: I buy the lower temperature stuff. 66/44 Thats 110 % "Yes friends, Whizzo Butter, with 10% More or Less, is absolutely indistinguishable from a dead crab!" (For those of you scratching your heads over this one, two words: Monty Python). Leave it out in the hot Florida sun for a few days. Then the smell will tell! ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in
: GregS wrote: I buy the lower temperature stuff. 66/44 Thats 110 % That's why it costs more. -- bz 73 de N5BZ k please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an infinite set. remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap |
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