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Late at night, by candle light, John Fields
penned this immortal opus: On 17 Mar 2007 11:57:20 -0700, "jerry" wrote: On Mar 17, 2:16 pm, "jim menning" wrote: "jerry" wrote in message oups.com... Gurus, I need your help... I am an amateur triathlete and I'm getting ready for the start of the triathlon season and I had this problem last year that I'm trying to solve. The problem is that during an open-water triathlon swim I need to skip a stroke every so often to lift my head out of the water and site the next turn buoy. I usually find myself off course by a few yards and need to make corrections. This costs me time from being off course and from skipping a stroke. So, I had this idea to take apart an old digital camera or picture phone and mount the camera part to the back of my head and attach the LCD part in front of my goggles. Sound Will such a device be illegal in competition?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not yet! --- But, if it's patented, it'll be illegal for you to build one. A one-off for personal use is allowed. - YD. -- Remove HAT if replying by mail. |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:46:24 -0300, YD Gave us:
Late at night, by candle light, John Fields penned this immortal opus: On 17 Mar 2007 11:57:20 -0700, "jerry" wrote: On Mar 17, 2:16 pm, "jim menning" wrote: "jerry" wrote in message oups.com... Gurus, I need your help... I am an amateur triathlete and I'm getting ready for the start of the triathlon season and I had this problem last year that I'm trying to solve. The problem is that during an open-water triathlon swim I need to skip a stroke every so often to lift my head out of the water and site the next turn buoy. I usually find myself off course by a few yards and need to make corrections. This costs me time from being off course and from skipping a stroke. So, I had this idea to take apart an old digital camera or picture phone and mount the camera part to the back of my head and attach the LCD part in front of my goggles. Sound Will such a device be illegal in competition?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not yet! --- But, if it's patented, it'll be illegal for you to build one. A one-off for personal use is allowed. One used to be able to make a "cable box" for "experimental purposes". They still may, but using it on the cable line is where the felony theft of service comes in. Doesn't do much just sitting there without a cable hooked to it. If I EVER made a "one off" of someone else's patented product or process, I would certainly be in correspondence with that person. It is just plain good civil practice, and if you claim to be a member of civil society, you should have enough presence of mind to know the difference between an experiment and a rip off or avoidance of paying one's dues. |
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Late at night, by candle light, MassiveProng
penned this immortal opus: On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:46:24 -0300, YD Gave us: Late at night, by candle light, John Fields penned this immortal opus: On 17 Mar 2007 11:57:20 -0700, "jerry" wrote: On Mar 17, 2:16 pm, "jim menning" wrote: "jerry" wrote in message oups.com... Gurus, I need your help... I am an amateur triathlete and I'm getting ready for the start of the triathlon season and I had this problem last year that I'm trying to solve. The problem is that during an open-water triathlon swim I need to skip a stroke every so often to lift my head out of the water and site the next turn buoy. I usually find myself off course by a few yards and need to make corrections. This costs me time from being off course and from skipping a stroke. So, I had this idea to take apart an old digital camera or picture phone and mount the camera part to the back of my head and attach the LCD part in front of my goggles. Sound Will such a device be illegal in competition?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not yet! --- But, if it's patented, it'll be illegal for you to build one. A one-off for personal use is allowed. One used to be able to make a "cable box" for "experimental purposes". They still may, but using it on the cable line is where the felony theft of service comes in. Doesn't do much just sitting there without a cable hooked to it. If I EVER made a "one off" of someone else's patented product or process, I would certainly be in correspondence with that person. It is just plain good civil practice, and if you claim to be a member of civil society, you should have enough presence of mind to know the difference between an experiment and a rip off or avoidance of paying one's dues. Oh **** off. I'll do whatever I damn well please and there's nothing you can do about it except **** and moan. - YD. -- Remove HAT if replying by mail. |
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HEY MANG WAT U DO GIV ME HELP FO MY PROJET WAT IS A CAPCITOR
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On 19 Mar 2007 21:08:27 -0700, "BILKS" Gave us:
HEY MANG **** off, gang BOY retard. |
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:05:53 -0300, YD Gave us:
Late at night, by candle light, MassiveProng penned this immortal opus: On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:46:24 -0300, YD Gave us: Late at night, by candle light, John Fields penned this immortal opus: On 17 Mar 2007 11:57:20 -0700, "jerry" wrote: On Mar 17, 2:16 pm, "jim menning" wrote: "jerry" wrote in message oups.com... Gurus, I need your help... I am an amateur triathlete and I'm getting ready for the start of the triathlon season and I had this problem last year that I'm trying to solve. The problem is that during an open-water triathlon swim I need to skip a stroke every so often to lift my head out of the water and site the next turn buoy. I usually find myself off course by a few yards and need to make corrections. This costs me time from being off course and from skipping a stroke. So, I had this idea to take apart an old digital camera or picture phone and mount the camera part to the back of my head and attach the LCD part in front of my goggles. Sound Will such a device be illegal in competition?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not yet! --- But, if it's patented, it'll be illegal for you to build one. A one-off for personal use is allowed. One used to be able to make a "cable box" for "experimental purposes". They still may, but using it on the cable line is where the felony theft of service comes in. Doesn't do much just sitting there without a cable hooked to it. If I EVER made a "one off" of someone else's patented product or process, I would certainly be in correspondence with that person. It is just plain good civil practice, and if you claim to be a member of civil society, you should have enough presence of mind to know the difference between an experiment and a rip off or avoidance of paying one's dues. Oh **** off. I'll do whatever I damn well please and there's nothing you can do about it except **** and moan. That is only due to the fact that I follow laws. If that were not the case, dumb ****tards like you would be plowing fields at a prison farm, because that is where I would ship your ass, trial or not. |
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Late at night, by candle light, MassiveProng
penned this immortal opus: On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:05:53 -0300, YD Gave us: Late at night, by candle light, MassiveProng penned this immortal opus: On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:46:24 -0300, YD Gave us: Late at night, by candle light, John Fields penned this immortal opus: On 17 Mar 2007 11:57:20 -0700, "jerry" wrote: On Mar 17, 2:16 pm, "jim menning" wrote: "jerry" wrote in message oups.com... Gurus, I need your help... I am an amateur triathlete and I'm getting ready for the start of the triathlon season and I had this problem last year that I'm trying to solve. The problem is that during an open-water triathlon swim I need to skip a stroke every so often to lift my head out of the water and site the next turn buoy. I usually find myself off course by a few yards and need to make corrections. This costs me time from being off course and from skipping a stroke. So, I had this idea to take apart an old digital camera or picture phone and mount the camera part to the back of my head and attach the LCD part in front of my goggles. Sound Will such a device be illegal in competition?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not yet! --- But, if it's patented, it'll be illegal for you to build one. A one-off for personal use is allowed. One used to be able to make a "cable box" for "experimental purposes". They still may, but using it on the cable line is where the felony theft of service comes in. Doesn't do much just sitting there without a cable hooked to it. If I EVER made a "one off" of someone else's patented product or process, I would certainly be in correspondence with that person. It is just plain good civil practice, and if you claim to be a member of civil society, you should have enough presence of mind to know the difference between an experiment and a rip off or avoidance of paying one's dues. Oh **** off. I'll do whatever I damn well please and there's nothing you can do about it except **** and moan. That is only due to the fact that I follow laws. If that were not the case, dumb ****tards like you would be plowing fields at a prison farm, because that is where I would ship your ass, trial or not. Oh **** off a bit more. If I find the design for something that interests me I'll build it no matter what. Now stick that in your prong and light it up. - YD. -- Remove HAT if replying by mail. |
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YD wrote:
Late at night, by candle light, MassiveProng penned this immortal opus: On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:46:24 -0300, YD Gave us: Late at night, by candle light, John Fields penned this immortal opus: On 17 Mar 2007 11:57:20 -0700, "jerry" wrote: On Mar 17, 2:16 pm, "jim menning" wrote: "jerry" wrote in message oglegroups.com... Gurus, I need your help... I am an amateur triathlete and I'm getting ready for the start of the triathlon season and I had this problem last year that I'm trying to solve. The problem is that during an open-water triathlon swim I need to skip a stroke every so often to lift my head out of the water and site the next turn buoy. I usually find myself off course by a few yards and need to make corrections. This costs me time from being off course and from skipping a stroke. So, I had this idea to take apart an old digital camera or picture phone and mount the camera part to the back of my head and attach the LCD part in front of my goggles. Sound Will such a device be illegal in competition?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not yet! --- But, if it's patented, it'll be illegal for you to build one. A one-off for personal use is allowed. One used to be able to make a "cable box" for "experimental purposes". They still may, but using it on the cable line is where the felony theft of service comes in. Doesn't do much just sitting there without a cable hooked to it. If I EVER made a "one off" of someone else's patented product or process, I would certainly be in correspondence with that person. It is just plain good civil practice, and if you claim to be a member of civil society, you should have enough presence of mind to know the difference between an experiment and a rip off or avoidance of paying one's dues. Oh **** off. I'll do whatever I damn well please and there's nothing you can do about it except **** and moan. - YD. DOn't worry YD, he's a ****, that is why he can **** and moan at the same time!.. -- "I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken" Real Programmers Do things like this. http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5 |
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Late at night, by candle light, Jamie
t penned this immortal opus: YD wrote: Late at night, by candle light, MassiveProng penned this immortal opus: On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:46:24 -0300, YD Gave us: Late at night, by candle light, John Fields penned this immortal opus: On 17 Mar 2007 11:57:20 -0700, "jerry" wrote: On Mar 17, 2:16 pm, "jim menning" wrote: "jerry" wrote in message ooglegroups.com... Gurus, I need your help... I am an amateur triathlete and I'm getting ready for the start of the triathlon season and I had this problem last year that I'm trying to solve. The problem is that during an open-water triathlon swim I need to skip a stroke every so often to lift my head out of the water and site the next turn buoy. I usually find myself off course by a few yards and need to make corrections. This costs me time from being off course and from skipping a stroke. So, I had this idea to take apart an old digital camera or picture phone and mount the camera part to the back of my head and attach the LCD part in front of my goggles. Sound Will such a device be illegal in competition?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not yet! --- But, if it's patented, it'll be illegal for you to build one. A one-off for personal use is allowed. One used to be able to make a "cable box" for "experimental purposes". They still may, but using it on the cable line is where the felony theft of service comes in. Doesn't do much just sitting there without a cable hooked to it. If I EVER made a "one off" of someone else's patented product or process, I would certainly be in correspondence with that person. It is just plain good civil practice, and if you claim to be a member of civil society, you should have enough presence of mind to know the difference between an experiment and a rip off or avoidance of paying one's dues. Oh **** off. I'll do whatever I damn well please and there's nothing you can do about it except **** and moan. - YD. DOn't worry YD, he's a ****, that is why he can **** and moan at the same time!.. LOL! - YD. -- Remove HAT if replying by mail. |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:46:24 -0300, YD wrote:
Late at night, by candle light, John Fields penned this immortal opus: --- But, if it's patented, it'll be illegal for you to build one. A one-off for personal use is allowed. --- No, it isn't. Contact the USPTO if you don't believe me: http://www.uspto.gov/web/menu/feedback.html -- JF |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:37:56 -0400, krw wrote:
In article , says... Late at night, by candle light, John Fields penned this immortal opus: On 17 Mar 2007 11:57:20 -0700, "jerry" wrote: On Mar 17, 2:16 pm, "jim menning" wrote: "jerry" wrote in message oups.com... Gurus, I need your help... I am an amateur triathlete and I'm getting ready for the start of the triathlon season and I had this problem last year that I'm trying to solve. The problem is that during an open-water triathlon swim I need to skip a stroke every so often to lift my head out of the water and site the next turn buoy. I usually find myself off course by a few yards and need to make corrections. This costs me time from being off course and from skipping a stroke. So, I had this idea to take apart an old digital camera or picture phone and mount the camera part to the back of my head and attach the LCD part in front of my goggles. Sound Will such a device be illegal in competition?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not yet! --- But, if it's patented, it'll be illegal for you to build one. A one-off for personal use is allowed. No, it is not. Yeth it is ;-) But you may not profit from the "personal use". There are some special cases that have been handled by additional law... for instance cable boxes, homemade, for "personal use", were legal until "theft-of-service" laws were written. Why do you think so many schematics are labeled "for educational purposes only" ?:-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice ![]() | E-mail Address at Website Fax ![]() | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:37:56 -0400, krw wrote: In article , says... Late at night, by candle light, John Fields penned this immortal opus: On 17 Mar 2007 11:57:20 -0700, "jerry" wrote: On Mar 17, 2:16 pm, "jim menning" wrote: "jerry" wrote in message oglegroups.com... Gurus, I need your help... I am an amateur triathlete and I'm getting ready for the start of the triathlon season and I had this problem last year that I'm trying to solve. The problem is that during an open-water triathlon swim I need to skip a stroke every so often to lift my head out of the water and site the next turn buoy. I usually find myself off course by a few yards and need to make corrections. This costs me time from being off course and from skipping a stroke. So, I had this idea to take apart an old digital camera or picture phone and mount the camera part to the back of my head and attach the LCD part in front of my goggles. Sound Will such a device be illegal in competition?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not yet! --- But, if it's patented, it'll be illegal for you to build one. A one-off for personal use is allowed. No, it is not. Yeth it is ;-) cite? But you may not profit from the "personal use". There are some special cases that have been handled by additional law... for instance cable boxes, homemade, for "personal use", were legal until "theft-of-service" laws were written. Why do you think so many schematics are labeled "for educational purposes only" ?:-) ...Jim Thompson -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:01:38 -0600, CJT wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:37:56 -0400, krw wrote: [snip] A one-off for personal use is allowed. No, it is not. Yeth it is ;-) cite? My personal patent attorney, over lunch, during a discussion of cable-buster boxes. Many years ago, prior to the institution of theft-of-service laws. If you were correct, why would theft-of-service laws be necessary? But you may not profit from the "personal use". There are some special cases that have been handled by additional law... for instance cable boxes, homemade, for "personal use", were legal until "theft-of-service" laws were written. Why do you think so many schematics are labeled "for educational purposes only" ?:-) ...Jim Thompson ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice ![]() | E-mail Address at Website Fax ![]() | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:01:38 -0600, CJT wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:37:56 -0400, krw wrote: [snip] A one-off for personal use is allowed. No, it is not. Yeth it is ;-) cite? My personal patent attorney, over lunch, during a discussion of cable-buster boxes. Many years ago, prior to the institution of theft-of-service laws. If you were correct, why would theft-of-service laws be necessary? To prosecute people who tamper with the CATV physical plant, which was happening LONG before there was any scrambling equipment. I've seen photos were some dumbass hacksawed the shield off the .750" CATV trunkline. Then he connected it directly to his TV set. The high RF levels blew out the RF amp, and the 30 VAC 30 A power supply set the input circuit on fire. Most of the system went down when he opened the shield, so it wasn't very long before the damage was found. Then, the stupid SOB tried to sue the CATV company for the damage to his TV, and not having warning labels that the lines were carrying AC power. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:17:56 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:01:38 -0600, CJT wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:37:56 -0400, krw wrote: [snip] A one-off for personal use is allowed. No, it is not. Yeth it is ;-) cite? My personal patent attorney, over lunch, during a discussion of cable-buster boxes. Many years ago, prior to the institution of theft-of-service laws. If you were correct, why would theft-of-service laws be necessary? To prosecute people who tamper with the CATV physical plant, which was happening LONG before there was any scrambling equipment. I've seen photos were some dumbass hacksawed the shield off the .750" CATV trunkline. Then he connected it directly to his TV set. The high RF levels blew out the RF amp, and the 30 VAC 30 A power supply set the input circuit on fire. Most of the system went down when he opened the shield, so it wasn't very long before the damage was found. Then, the stupid SOB tried to sue the CATV company for the damage to his TV, and not having warning labels that the lines were carrying AC power. I did that to a neighbor's TV once... lit it off with a KW pumped into a 50' long V-beam on 2-meters ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice ![]() | E-mail Address at Website Fax ![]() | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:17:56 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
Gave us: Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:01:38 -0600, CJT wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:37:56 -0400, krw wrote: [snip] A one-off for personal use is allowed. No, it is not. Yeth it is ;-) cite? My personal patent attorney, over lunch, during a discussion of cable-buster boxes. Many years ago, prior to the institution of theft-of-service laws. If you were correct, why would theft-of-service laws be necessary? To prosecute people who tamper with the CATV physical plant, which was happening LONG before there was any scrambling equipment. I've seen photos were some dumbass hacksawed the shield off the .750" CATV trunkline. Then he connected it directly to his TV set. The high RF levels blew out the RF amp, and the 30 VAC 30 A power supply set the input circuit on fire. Most of the system went down when he opened the shield, so it wasn't very long before the damage was found. Then, the stupid SOB tried to sue the CATV company for the damage to his TV, and not having warning labels that the lines were carrying AC power. Hard line cable service carries a 60V DC supply. |
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Jim Thompson wrote: CJT wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: krw wrote: [snip] A one-off for personal use is allowed. No, it is not. Yeth it is ;-) cite? My personal patent attorney, over lunch, during a discussion of cable-buster boxes. Many years ago, prior to the institution of theft-of-service laws. The "many years ago" could be the problem ... things have changed in the last few years. Although I hate to use Wikipedia to support a point, the "Research exemption" page does have some good references to read about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_exemption The relevant title can be grabbed from http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...1----000-.html which makes it very clear that the construction of a patented device infringes the patent: "Except as otherwise provided in this title, whoever without authority makes, uses, offers to sell, or sells any patented invention, within the United States, or imports into the United States any patented invention during the term of the patent therefor, infringes the patent". There are no explicit exemptions in the title itself for research except for specific pharmaceutical-related situations. The more general research exemption (in the US) is originally from the Whittemore v. Cutter case, but this has been significantly narrowed over the years, especially in the last 5 or so. [...] -- Michael Brown Add michael@ to emboss.co.nz - My inbox is always open |
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YD wrote:
Late at night, by candle light, John Fields penned this immortal opus: On 17 Mar 2007 11:57:20 -0700, "jerry" wrote: On Mar 17, 2:16 pm, "jim menning" wrote: "jerry" wrote in message legroups.com... Gurus, I need your help... I am an amateur triathlete and I'm getting ready for the start of the triathlon season and I had this problem last year that I'm trying to solve. The problem is that during an open-water triathlon swim I need to skip a stroke every so often to lift my head out of the water and site the next turn buoy. I usually find myself off course by a few yards and need to make corrections. This costs me time from being off course and from skipping a stroke. So, I had this idea to take apart an old digital camera or picture phone and mount the camera part to the back of my head and attach the LCD part in front of my goggles. Sound Will such a device be illegal in competition?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not yet! --- But, if it's patented, it'll be illegal for you to build one. A one-off for personal use is allowed. - YD. In what country? -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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