I need to know if anyone can get, or has brake bands for
this machine. It's a must have. If you can help please
email to thanks, Donald.

On Feb 16, 2:07 pm, "Donald" wrote:
I need to know if anyone can get, or has brake bands for
this machine. It's a must have. If you can help please
email to thanks, Donald.

Call these guys....
http://www.jmtecharts.com/

Won't be cheap...but unless you want to make some (wouldn't be hard)
they're the best source.

On Feb 16, 1:07 pm, "Donald" wrote:
I need to know if anyone can get, or has brake bands for
this machine. It's a must have. If you can help please
email to thanks, Donald.

IIRC the brake bands look like a thin layer of cork.

BTW have you already tried the simpler fixes, such as cleaning the
bands with alcohol?

On Feb 16, 2:58 pm, "Ancient_Hacker" wrote:
On Feb 16, 1:07 pm, "Donald" wrote:

I need to know if anyone can get, or has brake bands for
this machine. It's a must have. If you can help please
email to thanks, Donald.

IIRC the brake bands look like a thin layer of cork.

BTW have you already tried the simpler fixes, such as cleaning the
bands with alcohol?

Not on the A77. They are very thin metal bands. There is a cotton like
lining on the outside of the reel motor's rotor where the band rides.

If one were ambitious it would be possible to fashion some out of
nylon carton banding.

Tip: The brake bands on this machine are prone to resonating
(creaking, groaning) when the reel slows to a stop. An easy remedy for
this is to apply some thin foam mounting tape to the outside of the
band to damp vibration.

http://www.theimann.com/Analog/A77/Versionen.html

Scroll down for a look at the brake assy.

On Feb 16, 2:07 pm, "Donald" wrote:
I need to know if anyone can get, or has brake bands for
this machine. It's a must have. If you can help please
email to thanks, Donald.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Revox-A-77-Brake...QQcmdZViewItem

The advertisement is right: You CAN find it on
eBay!

I'm surprised that there aren't parts still
available for the A77 since it is still being used
in radio stations all over the US.




On 16 Feb 2007 13:05:26 -0800, "boardjunkie"
wrote:

On Feb 16, 2:07 pm, "Donald"
wrote:
I need to know if anyone can get, or has brake
bands for
this machine. It's a must have. If you can help
please
email to thanks, Donald.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Revox-A-77-Brake...QQcmdZViewItem
~db~®

In article ,
~db~® wrote:
I'm surprised that there aren't parts still
available for the A77 since it is still being used
in radio stations all over the US.

Surely you're not serious? The A77 is a domestic machine that is at least
25 years old. And is hopeless to edit on so never the choice of radio
stations. Studer are the pro side of Revox and made many suitable 1/4"
machines that were common in radio - once - but all the stations I know
now use DAW based systems.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"~db~®" wrote:

The advertisement is right: You CAN find it on
eBay!

I'm surprised that there aren't parts still
available for the A77 since it is still being used
in radio stations all over the US.


Not around here. It is digitized to a hard drive, edited, and stored
in their automation systems. They have thrown out all of their R-R,
cart, and cassette tape machines. Their turntables are gone, replaced
by a couple CD drives. The large audio boards are gone, replaced with a
multiple channel sound card and software. This trend started over 10
years ago.


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prove it.
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Central Florida

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
~db~® wrote:
I'm surprised that there aren't parts still
available for the A77 since it is still being used
in radio stations all over the US.

Surely you're not serious? The A77 is a domestic machine that is at least
25 years old. And is hopeless to edit on so never the choice of radio
stations. Studer are the pro side of Revox and made many suitable 1/4"
machines that were common in radio - once - but all the stations I know
now use DAW based systems.


The Studer/Revox A77 R-R tape deck is 40 years old. It was
introduced to the market in 1967. It was available to radio stations
before it was sold to the public.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

In article ,
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Surely you're not serious? The A77 is a domestic machine that is at
least 25 years old. And is hopeless to edit on so never the choice of
radio stations. Studer are the pro side of Revox and made many
suitable 1/4" machines that were common in radio - once - but all the
stations I know now use DAW based systems.


The Studer/Revox A77 R-R tape deck is 40 years old. It was
introduced to the market in 1967. It was available to radio stations
before it was sold to the public.

One of the primary functions of a 1/4" machine in a radio studio is for
editing, and the A77 is hopeless for that. Studer already made suitable
pro machines so I really can't see why they'd have aimed it at radio
stations. Fine machine though it is, it simply isn't suitable. I suppose
it might have been used for office listening given it was one of the few
domestic machines that took NAB spools. But that's not really radio use.

As to tape still being used, MiniDisc was a good and cheap replacement for
that before computer based systems became the norm.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Surely you're not serious? The A77 is a domestic machine that is at
least 25 years old. And is hopeless to edit on so never the choice of
radio stations. Studer are the pro side of Revox and made many
suitable 1/4" machines that were common in radio - once - but all the
stations I know now use DAW based systems.

The Studer/Revox A77 R-R tape deck is 40 years old. It was
introduced to the market in 1967. It was available to radio stations
before it was sold to the public.

One of the primary functions of a 1/4" machine in a radio studio is for
editing, and the A77 is hopeless for that. Studer already made suitable
pro machines so I really can't see why they'd have aimed it at radio
stations. Fine machine though it is, it simply isn't suitable. I suppose
it might have been used for office listening given it was one of the few
domestic machines that took NAB spools. But that's not really radio use.


The stations that I saw it in used it for portable use, in the field
to record raw reports. then the tape was edited on the studio machines
for broadcast. The first ad I saw for the A77 was in a broadcast trade
journal. When cassette recorders were improved to an acceptable level,
the portable r-r machines went into a closet.

Some of the A77 decks were modified to use in crude '60 & '70s
automation systems. They were loaded with one hour tapes to run all
night. The timer switched from one machine to the next, and the tapes
were made, then duplicated by a programming service. Some of the
services rotated the tapes along a circuit, so they were pretty well
worn out by the time they were returned. A friend of mine has about
1000 10.5" and 7" reels that he's dragged home from a number of stations
he maintains. he also has a lot of 30 minute records from syndicated
programs from that era.



As to tape still being used, MiniDisc was a good and cheap replacement for
that before computer based systems became the norm.

--
*The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

In article ,
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
One of the primary functions of a 1/4" machine in a radio studio is
for editing, and the A77 is hopeless for that. Studer already made
suitable pro machines so I really can't see why they'd have aimed it
at radio stations. Fine machine though it is, it simply isn't
suitable. I suppose it might have been used for office listening given
it was one of the few domestic machines that took NAB spools. But
that's not really radio use.


The stations that I saw it in used it for portable use, in the field
to record raw reports.

Good grief. They must have had strong reporters. ;-) And you could
guarantee a mains supply in the field?

then the tape was edited on the studio machines
for broadcast. The first ad I saw for the A77 was in a broadcast trade
journal. When cassette recorders were improved to an acceptable level,
the portable r-r machines went into a closet.

Things like the Uher Report were industry standard R-R machines for this
use - battery operated. Or Nagra if better quality was needed.

Some of the A77 decks were modified to use in crude '60 & '70s
automation systems. They were loaded with one hour tapes to run all
night. The timer switched from one machine to the next, and the tapes
were made, then duplicated by a programming service. Some of the
services rotated the tapes along a circuit, so they were pretty well
worn out by the time they were returned. A friend of mine has about
1000 10.5" and 7" reels that he's dragged home from a number of stations
he maintains. he also has a lot of 30 minute records from syndicated
programs from that era.

Seems strange to go down that route when there were makers producing the
exact equipment for this sort of use.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Oh, yes, I am serious. Not my choice for tricking
out a professional studio, nor for a home machine
for that matter. I have edited enough
quarter-inch audio tape to stretch from here to
Mars and back. Won't argue that the A77 is
probably the worst open-reel deck for that job.
And portable? In name only. But in the small
town stations where I started out, state of the
art was often trumped by state of the budget

And, as you guys aver, digital rules. My point
is, though, that there are enough of the old
machines still around to make me wonder that parts
are not available still. Be well.

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:05:55 +0000 (GMT), "Dave
Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article
,
~db~® wrote:
I'm surprised that there aren't parts still
available for the A77 since it is still being
used
in radio stations all over the US.

Surely you're not serious? The A77 is a domestic
machine that is at least
25 years old. And is hopeless to edit on so never
the choice of radio
stations. Studer are the pro side of Revox and
made many suitable 1/4"
machines that were common in radio - once - but
all the stations I know
now use DAW based systems.
~db~®

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
One of the primary functions of a 1/4" machine in a radio studio is
for editing, and the A77 is hopeless for that. Studer already made
suitable pro machines so I really can't see why they'd have aimed it
at radio stations. Fine machine though it is, it simply isn't
suitable. I suppose it might have been used for office listening given
it was one of the few domestic machines that took NAB spools. But
that's not really radio use.

The stations that I saw it in used it for portable use, in the field
to record raw reports.

Good grief. They must have had strong reporters. ;-) And you could
guarantee a mains supply in the field?


I am talking about things like recording a high school ball game for
later broadcast, where a tech, or even the chief engineer went to the
site to set up, and tear down the equipment. You live in the land of
the government funded BBC. in the US, most stations were privately
owned by an individual, or it was a family business.


then the tape was edited on the studio machines
for broadcast. The first ad I saw for the A77 was in a broadcast trade
journal. When cassette recorders were improved to an acceptable level,
the portable r-r machines went into a closet.

Things like the Uher Report were industry standard R-R machines for this
use - battery operated. Or Nagra if better quality was needed.


Sure, for 15 minute or less interviews, where you didn't have to stop
and change the tape.


Some of the A77 decks were modified to use in crude '60 & '70s
automation systems. They were loaded with one hour tapes to run all
night. The timer switched from one machine to the next, and the tapes
were made, then duplicated by a programming service. Some of the
services rotated the tapes along a circuit, so they were pretty well
worn out by the time they were returned. A friend of mine has about
1000 10.5" and 7" reels that he's dragged home from a number of stations
he maintains. he also has a lot of 30 minute records from syndicated
programs from that era.

Seems strange to go down that route when there were makers producing the
exact equipment for this sort of use.


Used A77 were available, and the engineers loved to tinker. Money
spent on studio equipment wasn't available to fix other things.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

In article ,
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Good grief. They must have had strong reporters. ;-) And you could
guarantee a mains supply in the field?


I am talking about things like recording a high school ball game for
later broadcast, where a tech, or even the chief engineer went to the
site to set up, and tear down the equipment.

You live in the land of the government funded BBC.

Maybe, but their local radio stations had shoestring budgets.

in the US, most stations were privately owned by an individual, or it
was a family business.

But the A77 was an expensive high end domestic machine. Weren't there some
cheaper but more robust home grown makes - Ampex, etc? In the UK,
Ferrograph tended to have that side of the market sewn up.

I'm just curious - I'm an A77 fan. I have two including an HS one. And a
Dolby SR unit for use with them.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Feb 18, 7:01 pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
I'm just curious - I'm an A77 fan. I have two including an HS one. And a
Dolby SR unit for use with them.


I have a MK1 A77 w/stainless steel faceplate that's been completely
rebuilt and updated by TM technical. Sound quality is just amazing.
Better than my Otari. But still a PITA to use....I wish they hadn't
made them so compact.

In article . com,
boardjunkie wrote:
On Feb 18, 7:01 pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
I'm just curious - I'm an A77 fan. I have two including an HS one. And
a Dolby SR unit for use with them.


I have a MK1 A77 w/stainless steel faceplate that's been completely
rebuilt and updated by TM technical. Sound quality is just amazing.
Better than my Otari.

Yup. They are capable of very fine sounds.

But still a PITA to use....I wish they hadn't made them so compact.

Which is why I expressed surprise about them being used professionally.
Perhaps Studer deliberately made them so awkward to avoid pinching sales
from the pro side.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Good grief. They must have had strong reporters. ;-) And you could
guarantee a mains supply in the field?

I am talking about things like recording a high school ball game for
later broadcast, where a tech, or even the chief engineer went to the
site to set up, and tear down the equipment.

You live in the land of the government funded BBC.

Maybe, but their local radio stations had shoestring budgets.

in the US, most stations were privately owned by an individual, or it
was a family business.

But the A77 was an expensive high end domestic machine. Weren't there some
cheaper but more robust home grown makes - Ampex, etc? In the UK,
Ferrograph tended to have that side of the market sewn up.

I'm just curious - I'm an A77 fan. I have two including an HS one. And a
Dolby SR unit for use with them.


In the pre-internet days there were a number of broadcast trade
journals, and used equipment brokers. If you were going to home brew a
simple automation system, you looked around to see what was readily
availible, and cheap. It was easier to buy the same repair parts for a
dozen of the same machines, and you could scrap a dammaged deck for
motors and heads, or other parts to keep the rest running as they aged.

By the time thay became too expensive to maintain, computer programs
on computers with a bank of SCSI drives, or remote controlled multidisk
CD players took over. Today, it would be cheaper to have a rack full of
cheap computer CDROM drives, instead of $1500 six disc machines made for
broadcast use.

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida