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Hi,
My tv has stopped working. The symptoms are as follows,

Recently I noticed that the picture requires ever longer times
to start after switching the tv on. The sound comes on
immediately. I new that eventually, the pictures will not come
on, and now I have reached that point. It seems as though
the picture cannot "complete" the "warm up" stage. The
screen is completely dark, i.e. as if there is no power.
I have checked all the controls, and it is not a brightness
setting or the tv/vcr switch, I am sure of that.

The model is Panasonic TX-W28R3

I am guessing that this is due to some dried out electrolyte,
but this is just my educated guess, due to the fact that the
fault became progressively worse, which could be an
electrolyte in the process of drying up.

If anyone has any experience with this particular model, please
tell me what is the part, and I will fix this in a flash.

Thanks
B.Eng

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Hi,
My tv has stopped working. The symptoms are as follows,

Recently I noticed that the picture requires ever longer times
to start after switching the tv on. The sound comes on
immediately. I new that eventually, the pictures will not come
on, and now I have reached that point. It seems as though
the picture cannot "complete" the "warm up" stage. The
screen is completely dark, i.e. as if there is no power.
I have checked all the controls, and it is not a brightness
setting or the tv/vcr switch, I am sure of that.

The model is Panasonic TX-W28R3

I am guessing that this is due to some dried out electrolyte,
but this is just my educated guess, due to the fact that the
fault became progressively worse, which could be an
electrolyte in the process of drying up.


It may be something to do with the CRT heater supply, which could indeed be
due to bad electrolytic caps, or bad solder joints, especially on the CRT
connector.

If anyone has any experience with this particular model, please
tell me what is the part, and I will fix this in a flash.


I take it you are skilled in electronics and are aware of the potential
lethal dangers within a CRT TV? First things first- check the neck of the
CRT glows. If it does, the set will need some skilled diagnostics to get any
further. If it doesn't, the fault should be easy to find as there are few
parts to go wrong in the heater supply on most sets. Usually it will be a
bad solder joint or broken PCB track.

Dave


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It may be something to do with the CRT heater supply, which could indeed be
due to bad electrolytic caps, or bad solder joints, especially on the CRT
connector.


Dave,
I know about the dangers (I have a diploma in EE).
When you say it may be a bad solder/track, this does not explain
why the problem got progressively worse. A bad solder/track usually
causes an intermittant problem?




Dave


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It may be something to do with the CRT heater supply, which could indeed
be
due to bad electrolytic caps, or bad solder joints, especially on the CRT
connector.


Dave,
I know about the dangers (I have a diploma in EE).
When you say it may be a bad solder/track, this does not explain
why the problem got progressively worse. A bad solder/track usually
causes an intermittant problem?


Yes but a CRT heater has a lot of 'thermal inertia' and takes a good few
seconds to go from off to on, on to off. A bad connection can often become a
good one once parts warm up and expansion sets in. With ageing, thermal
expansion and contraction and some arcing, a worsening connection can be
fully expected.

However, I agree the most likely cause is thermally sensitive components,
especially electrolytic capacitors.

Dave


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Dave: Use your ESR Meter and check the associated electrolytic, having the
EE Diploma will definitely assist it the rest of the quandary. Cheers.
FWIW Panasonic and Sony have been known for multiple 'ring cracks' in their
soldering, esp after a few months of thermal changes during nominal
operations, it's probable a good illuminated inspection mag lens will
assist?
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"info" wrote in message
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It may be something to do with the CRT heater supply, which could indeed
be
due to bad electrolytic caps, or bad solder joints, especially on the
CRT
connector.


Dave,
I know about the dangers (I have a diploma in EE).
When you say it may be a bad solder/track, this does not explain
why the problem got progressively worse. A bad solder/track usually
causes an intermittant problem?


Yes but a CRT heater has a lot of 'thermal inertia' and takes a good few
seconds to go from off to on, on to off. A bad connection can often become
a good one once parts warm up and expansion sets in. With ageing, thermal
expansion and contraction and some arcing, a worsening connection can be
fully expected.

However, I agree the most likely cause is thermally sensitive components,
especially electrolytic capacitors.

Dave





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Dave: Use your ESR Meter and check the associated electrolytic, having the
EE Diploma will definitely assist it the rest of the quandary. Cheers.
FWIW Panasonic and Sony have been known for multiple 'ring cracks' in
their soldering, esp after a few months of thermal changes during nominal
operations, it's probable a good illuminated inspection mag lens will
assist?


Thanks, but I'm not asking the question, 'info' is the OP!

Dave


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