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I have two Timex watches whose alarms have quit working after I changed the
battery. Both are plain, cheap digital units, both with the "Expedition" name. One is only about 3 years old (an "iControl" model), the other perhaps 8-10 years old. The watches seem to function fine except there is no longer an audible alarm when the alarm or timer "goes off". I had no trouble changing the battery in either case so I can't see how I could have caused abnormal pressure anywhere nor did I bump anything. And, yes, I pressed the reset button, more than once. Has anyone run into this issue? Any ideas? Thanks, Stephen |
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I believe there's a metal contact from the circuit board of
the watch that needs to touch the back of the watch for the beep to work. If that contact fell out when you replaced the battery, or you bent it so it's no longer making solid contact with the back of the watch, the beeping won't work. (Added misc.consumers back to the Newsgroups line, since I read misc.consumers but not sci.electronics.repair.) |
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Stephen...
the "Alarm Buzzer" in digital watches is a piezo disk. A VERY thin gold/brass looking disk with a circle of Piezo electric crystal that looks like a circle of white paint. This disk is mounted in the back of the watch. The case of the watch is one connector to the "Alarm Buzzer", the other connector is ususally a VERY VERY TINY little spring attatched to the innards (Electronics) of the Watch. When you put the back of the watch on, the little spring makes contact with the "white" disk and completes the connection. It's VERY easy to lose that spring!!! CAREFULLY take the back of the watch off and look for it. If it's still sticking up out of the electronics then the problem is related to something else. If not you'll have a problem on your hands. Not only will you have to find or make a new spring, you'll have to figure out where it connects on the circuit board. One more thing...if everything else in the watch seems to work BUT the alarm then RESET is NOT the problem! Hope this helps. Cheers....Dean. "Stephen" wrote in message news:m16Gf.9715$In4.9533@trnddc06... I have two Timex watches whose alarms have quit working after I changed the battery. Both are plain, cheap digital units, both with the "Expedition" name. One is only about 3 years old (an "iControl" model), the other perhaps 8-10 years old. The watches seem to function fine except there is no longer an audible alarm when the alarm or timer "goes off". I had no trouble changing the battery in either case so I can't see how I could have caused abnormal pressure anywhere nor did I bump anything. And, yes, I pressed the reset button, more than once. Has anyone run into this issue? Any ideas? Thanks, Stephen |
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When you changed the battery, make sure that the rear cover is put back
exactly how it was so that the contact to the back is in proper place. In many models, the contact is a spring that sits in a round slot. Many people loose this spring when they change the battery in their watch. The original spring contact would have to be ordered from Timex, unless you have the means to make one yourself. -- JANA _____ "Stephen" wrote in message news:m16Gf.9715$In4.9533@trnddc06... I have two Timex watches whose alarms have quit working after I changed the battery. Both are plain, cheap digital units, both with the "Expedition" name. One is only about 3 years old (an "iControl" model), the other perhaps 8-10 years old. The watches seem to function fine except there is no longer an audible alarm when the alarm or timer "goes off". I had no trouble changing the battery in either case so I can't see how I could have caused abnormal pressure anywhere nor did I bump anything. And, yes, I pressed the reset button, more than once. Has anyone run into this issue? Any ideas? Thanks, Stephen |
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On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 18:54:10 GMT, Stephen wrote:
I have two Timex watches whose alarms have quit working after I changed the battery. Both are plain, cheap digital units, both with the "Expedition" name. One is only about 3 years old (an "iControl" model), the other perhaps 8-10 years old. The watches seem to function fine except there is no longer an audible alarm when the alarm or timer "goes off". I had no trouble changing the battery in either case so I can't see how I could have caused abnormal pressure anywhere nor did I bump anything. And, yes, I pressed the reset button, more than once. Has anyone run into this issue? Any ideas? The watchback contains the alarm piezo unit and connection to it is made by the watch's ground and a little spring stuck in the watch module. You've obviously lost that little spring. |
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I believe there's a metal contact from the circuit board of
the watch that needs to touch the back of the watch for the beep to work. If that contact fell out when you replaced the battery, or you bent it so it's no longer making solid contact with the back of the watch, the beeping won't work. I've replaced several watch batteries and there's usually a teeny coil spring that touches the piezo on the back of the watch. It's really easy for that spring to drop out since it's not attached to anything. Yes, that thin thing that looks like it's painted inside the watch back is the piezo beeper. -- -- mejeep deMeep ferret! |
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T o d d P a t t i s t wrote in
: AZ Nomad wrote: The watchback contains the alarm piezo unit and connection to it is made by the watch's ground and a little spring stuck in the watch module. You've obviously lost that little spring. I read several comments here about the spring and the contacts to the piezo buzzer. I agree that could be the problem, but I've had this exact problem (no buzzer, but watch otherwise works perfectly) with several Timex models and I've always been extremely careful to assemble them exactly the same way I took them apart, and be sure the spring is correctly in place. I changed my watch battery yesterday, and was wondering about why the alarm started working when I put the cover back on. That explains a lot. Every time I've had the problem, careful reassembly has not been enough, and I've never lost the spring. As far as I can tell, resetting has always been the solution, not reassembly. Now when I change the battery, I squeeze the watch together and test the alarm. If it fails, I reset, squeeze it together again and retest until it works, then do a final reassembly. Once I get the watch alarm working, it always seems to work after the final reassembly. My watch, a cheapie made by Advance has the spring soldered to the PC board of the watch. You can't lose what isn't loose... Puckdropper -- www.uncreativelabs.net Old computers are getting to be a lost art. Here at Uncreative Labs, we still enjoy using the old computers. Sometimes we want to see how far a particular system can go, other times we use a stock system to remind ourselves of what we once had. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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Thanks to all who answered. I've got both watches' alarms working again.
Watch 1, the ~10 year old one, has a metal contact soldered not far from the reset contact (OK, not a button). It was pressed down and came off when I pulled it back up. After a touch with the solder iron, preceded by a brief hunt for the reading glasses, it works fine. Watch 2, the ~3 year old one, has a little spring as everyone said. It was still there but was caught on the lip of the hole in which it is seated. I unstuck it and all is well on that one now. I had to replace the battery in that one again despite having done so less than a year ago. I don't wear it much so the light hasn't been on much. It just needs a lot of juice apparently. I had never replaced the battery on watch 1 so it lasted about 10 years. Stephen |
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