OK, I know this won't do a lot of good, but maybe for a few
minutes.

I constantly see people posting about books here, which ones to
get, where to get them. You'd think they were in about the 3d grade.
Hell, even school kids know about the library.

Don't ask somebody what book you should get. Make up your own
mind. First thing, go to a library, a book store, a used book store,
flea market, anywhere there's books. Look thru the book, see if it's
something you'd be interested enough in to buy. THEN buy it. I get
most of my books from a used book store. They're very inexpensive, and
often in as new condition. It's not unusual to pay $5 for a book that
sellf for $35 at Barnes and Noble, and looks like new.

You want to find a book on the web? First off, you've got a
computer, so you should, I say again SHOULD, know about on-line
searches. But, you'll still ask where you can find whatever. Start
with google. I look up quite a variety and number of books on-line.
Here's a link to a page with some sites I've found very useful in
finding books, and at the lowest prices, on-line. This took me awhile
to come up with these links, so best copy them down fast, because if
some idiot goes out of his way to give me grieft about any dead links or
something, I'll likely change the URL.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofal...ERATUREONLINE/

And, while we're on the subject, don't e-mail me, I'll e-mail you.
I'm not at all thilled getting e-mail, with a subject line from a thread
on rec.woodworking, but nothing saying it is by e-mail only. Stuff like
that tends to get discarded without being read - after all, if it has a
thread subject line, and nothing saying it is by e-mail only, then it
must be an error, and was posted in the thread also. Right?

Damn winter weather. Suppoed do be down in the 60s tonight. LMAO



JOAT
Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get.
- =A0Dale Carnegie

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:08:17 -0500, (J T)
wrote:

I constantly see people posting about books here, which ones to
get, where to get them. You'd think they were in about the 3d grade.
Hell, even school kids know about the library.

You got that one right. It's called making an adult decision, and
that's becoming more and more rare these days.

JOAT
Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get.
- *Dale Carnegie

Guess who wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:08:17 -0500, (J T)
wrote:

I constantly see people posting about books here, which ones to
get, where to get them. You'd think they were in about the 3d
grade. Hell, even school kids know about the library.

You got that one right. It's called making an adult decision, and
that's becoming more and more rare these days.


I don't know how many woodworking books were in the library in the bad old
days or what was available in run of the mill books stores either but I do
know that today there is more than enough in either. I've found the ones
at the library to be old and pointed towards what you would like to build
rather than wood working techniques. At the book store most of the books
are pointed at styles of furniture or again, what you would like to build.
I have 10-15 of these kinds of books already and I could have kept on
buying those 'til the cows come home and never have found Tage Frid. His
name came from someone in this group (thank you) maybe now I won't have to
buy another 10-15 books, or hunt down another dozen at the library to
figure out how these things were done.

It's a pain in the neck to keep making booklists for newbies, but it is a
help to the newbie and save us $$$ we'd rather be spending on wood.

Why not make up a list in the word processing program of your choice and
cut & paste the list whenever the question comes back up again? Consider
it, (scarey as it may be) an act of kindness.

As for the email senders - nuke 'em!

Josie

(J T) wrote:

Don't ask somebody what book you should get. Make up your own
mind. First thing, go to a library, a book store, a used book store,
flea market, anywhere there's books.

That's definitely the second thing. First thing is to ask people for
recommendations and reviews. Especially people with relevant
experience who are willing to share their knowledge. Like many
newsgroup posters.

J T, your continued obstinacy on this issue is just baffling. What do
you care if someone asks a more experienced person for advice?

Ken Muldrew

(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)

Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 12:55pm (firstjois) says:
snipTage Frid. =A0 His name came from someone in this group snip

As I've said before, I don't usually buy any book until I've had a
chance to thumb thru it personally. I don't care how many people
recomment it, just because they like it, doesn't mean I will. Libraries
can borrow books, even new ones, if they don't have them. I've seen
books by Tage Frid, Charlie Self, Doug Stowe, and other famous
woodworking writers, in the used bookstore on several occassions

Why not make up a list in the word processing program of your choice and
cut & paste the list whenever the question comes back up again? Consider
it, (scarey as it may be) an act of kindness. snip

That is an excellent idea, and I'm sure that generations of newbies
to the group will thank you for volunteering to do that.




JOAT
Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get.
- =A0Dale Carnegie

Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 7:03pm (EST+5) From:
(Ken=A0Muldrew)
writes:
snip J T, your continued obstinacy on this issue is just baffling.
What do you care if someone asks a more experienced person for advice?

I suppose it's just frustration. It's not people asking for
recommendations as such, it's more the people who come across as being
unable to think for themselves,d make any decisions on their own, and to
do any looking on their own. The Gods know there's plenty of those
around. I admit there's those that are just plain confused, being I've
been confused enough myself at times, I try to cut them some slack. Bit
hard to sort them out sometimes. Then there's the ones that seem to
lack all self-confidence at all. There's damn-all kinds of things I've
never done, but once I sit down and think about it for a few minutes, I
know I can do them - not first class, but adequate, then repeating give
skill. Different generation I guess.



JOAT
Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get.
- =A0Dale Carnegie

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:08:17 -0500, (J T)
wrote:

Don't ask somebody what book you should get.

Why not ? The people who know whether a particular book is good or
not are those who've already read it.

Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 7:56pm (EST+5)
(Andy=A0Dingley) says:
Why not ? The people who know whether a particular book is good or not
are those who've already read it.

OK, bad choice of words. You can "ask" what books, but final
decision rests with the person buying. That's why I usually only buy
books I've actually thumbed thru. Rare exceptions to this are books I
already know I will like - such as the Discworld series books. I'm
willing to ask for recommendations about books, but then will look the
book(s) up, in the library, or a bookstore, and only afer I have then
looked at the book, decide if I will buy it or not. And, having decided
that, I will probably buy it on-line thru one of the links I posted.



JOAT
Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get.
- =A0Dale Carnegie

Hey JT can't be a bad guy, not if he's a Terry Prachett fan


"J T" wrote in message
...
Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 7:56pm (EST+5)
(Andy Dingley) says:
Why not ? The people who know whether a particular book is good or not
are those who've already read it.

OK, bad choice of words. You can "ask" what books, but final
decision rests with the person buying. That's why I usually only buy
books I've actually thumbed thru. Rare exceptions to this are books I
already know I will like - such as the Discworld series books. I'm
willing to ask for recommendations about books, but then will look the
book(s) up, in the library, or a bookstore, and only afer I have then
looked at the book, decide if I will buy it or not. And, having decided
that, I will probably buy it on-line thru one of the links I posted.



JOAT
Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get.
- Dale Carnegie

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:14:20 GMT, "Michael Stanford"
calmly ranted:

Hey JT can't be a bad guy, not if he's a Terry Prachett fan

Nor am I.


"J T" wrote in message
...
Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 7:56pm (EST+5)
(Andy Dingley) says:
Why not ? The people who know whether a particular book is good or not
are those who've already read it.

OK, bad choice of words. You can "ask" what books, but final
decision rests with the person buying. That's why I usually only buy
books I've actually thumbed thru. Rare exceptions to this are books I
already know I will like - such as the Discworld series books. I'm

Precisely. I found Terry Pratchett totally unreadable while I fell
into Niven's novels and ended up reading every single ONE of his books
(20+) in the past year and a half and loving every second of it.


willing to ask for recommendations about books, but then will look the
book(s) up, in the library, or a bookstore, and only afer I have then
looked at the book, decide if I will buy it or not. And, having decided
that, I will probably buy it on-line thru one of the links I posted.

Right, at a third the price. I just ordered 3 more used books through
Amazon yesterday.


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J T wrote:
Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 12:55pm (firstjois) says:
snipTage Frid. His name came from someone in this group snip

As I've said before, I don't usually buy any book until I've had
a chance to thumb thru it personally. I don't care how many people
recomment it, just because they like it, doesn't mean I will.
Libraries can borrow books, even new ones, if they don't have them.
I've seen books by Tage Frid, Charlie Self, Doug Stowe, and other
famous woodworking writers, in the used bookstore on several
occassions

Why not make up a list in the word processing program of your choice
and cut & paste the list whenever the question comes back up again?
Consider it, (scarey as it may be) an act of kindness. snip

That is an excellent idea, and I'm sure that generations of
newbies to the group will thank you for volunteering to do that.




JOAT

LOL - of course, I'd do it if I only knew which books to recommend! Heck,
I might do it anyway, please don't be the very first one to complain.

Josie