I made a set of bifold closet doors to replace louvered ones. My wife does not
like to trying to get the dust out of the slats and wanted something solid with a smooth surface. I stained the plywood panels , stiles, and rails before glue up. My thoughts were the stain ( brushed, not sprayed) would try to accumulate at the junction of panels and frame if I waited until after assembly. Show of hands..how many would stain after assembly? They turned out fine...just wondering.

Happy Thanksgiving to those who participate. All others, enjoy your Thursday.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 16:23:25 -0800 (PST), BillinGA
wrote:

I made a set of bifold closet doors to replace louvered ones. My wife does not
like to trying to get the dust out of the slats and wanted something solid with a smooth surface. I stained the plywood panels , stiles, and rails before glue up. My thoughts were the stain ( brushed, not sprayed) would try to accumulate at the junction of panels and frame if I waited until after assembly. Show of hands..how many would stain after assembly? They turned out fine...just wondering.

I "finish" before I make the final cuts. I'm no expert, though.

Happy Thanksgiving to those who participate. All others, enjoy your Thursday.

Thank you. I'll do both. ;-)

If you were going to stain, which is not a bad idea at all, you might as well tape the tenons and plug the mortises and put the finish on it, at least the first coat, before you do the glue up.


deb

In article ,
says...

I made a set of bifold closet doors to replace louvered ones. My wife does not
like to trying to get the dust out of the slats and wanted something solid with a smooth surface. I stained the plywood panels , stiles, and rails before glue up. My thoughts were the stain ( brushed, not sprayed) would try to accumulate at the junction of panels and frame if I waited until after assembly. Show of hands..how many would stain after assembly? They turned out fine...just wondering.

Happy Thanksgiving to those who participate. All others, enjoy your Thursday.

Stain first. Wood moves. If you stain after and the frame expands
more than the panels you get visible unstained areas.

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 06:39:16 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

In article ,
says...

I made a set of bifold closet doors to replace louvered ones. My wife does not
like to trying to get the dust out of the slats and wanted something solid with a smooth surface. I stained the plywood panels , stiles, and rails before glue up. My thoughts were the stain ( brushed, not sprayed) would try to accumulate at the junction of panels and frame if I waited until after assembly. Show of hands..how many would stain after assembly? They turned out fine...just wondering.

Happy Thanksgiving to those who participate. All others, enjoy your Thursday.

Stain first. Wood moves. If you stain after and the frame expands
more than the panels you get visible unstained areas.
Another reason is stain doesn'r stick well to glue (actually can't
penetrate glue to stain the wood), and glue doesn't stick well to
stain, so if you get any glue squease out on unstained wood, no matter
how quickly you wipe it off, the stain won't take as well there -
leaving a "scar" - and if you stain first and get squease out, the
glue comes of more easily as it can't get into the grain as well.

On 11/25/2015 6:23 PM, BillinGA wrote:
I made a set of bifold closet doors to replace louvered ones. My wife does not
like to trying to get the dust out of the slats and wanted something solid with a smooth surface. I stained the plywood panels , stiles, and rails before glue up. My thoughts were the stain ( brushed, not sprayed) would try to accumulate at the junction of panels and frame if I waited until after assembly. Show of hands..how many would stain after assembly? They turned out fine...just wondering.

Happy Thanksgiving to those who participate. All others, enjoy your Thursday.

I stain parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, inset
corners and inset panels for example. I often leave the easier outer
surfaces unstained until after the clamps come off for good.

On 11/26/2015 8:44 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/25/2015 6:23 PM, BillinGA wrote:
I made a set of bifold closet doors to replace louvered ones. My wife
does not
like to trying to get the dust out of the slats and wanted something
solid with a smooth surface. I stained the plywood panels , stiles,
and rails before glue up. My thoughts were the stain ( brushed, not
sprayed) would try to accumulate at the junction of panels and frame
if I waited until after assembly. Show of hands..how many would stain
after assembly? They turned out fine...just wondering.

Happy Thanksgiving to those who participate. All others, enjoy your
Thursday.

I stain parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, inset
corners and inset panels for example. I often leave the easier outer
surfaces unstained until after the clamps come off for good.

I think Leon meant

I stain _before_; the parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly.



--
Jeff

On 11/26/2015 8:49 AM, woodchucker wrote:
On 11/26/2015 8:44 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/25/2015 6:23 PM, BillinGA wrote:
I made a set of bifold closet doors to replace louvered ones. My wife
does not
like to trying to get the dust out of the slats and wanted something
solid with a smooth surface. I stained the plywood panels , stiles,
and rails before glue up. My thoughts were the stain ( brushed, not
sprayed) would try to accumulate at the junction of panels and frame
if I waited until after assembly. Show of hands..how many would stain
after assembly? They turned out fine...just wondering.

Happy Thanksgiving to those who participate. All others, enjoy your
Thursday.

I stain parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, inset
corners and inset panels for example. I often leave the easier outer
surfaces unstained until after the clamps come off for good.

I think Leon meant

I stain _before_; the parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly.




Was I not clear? ;~)

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:49:19 -0500, woodchucker
wrote:

On 11/26/2015 8:44 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/25/2015 6:23 PM, BillinGA wrote:
I made a set of bifold closet doors to replace louvered ones. My wife
does not
like to trying to get the dust out of the slats and wanted something
solid with a smooth surface. I stained the plywood panels , stiles,
and rails before glue up. My thoughts were the stain ( brushed, not
sprayed) would try to accumulate at the junction of panels and frame
if I waited until after assembly. Show of hands..how many would stain
after assembly? They turned out fine...just wondering.

Happy Thanksgiving to those who participate. All others, enjoy your
Thursday.

I stain parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, inset
corners and inset panels for example. I often leave the easier outer
surfaces unstained until after the clamps come off for good.

I think Leon meant

I stain _before_; the parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly.

No, he's right, though the language may be ambiguous to some. The
parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, he stains before
assembly.

On 11/26/2015 10:18 AM, krw wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:49:19 -0500, woodchucker
wrote:

On 11/26/2015 8:44 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/25/2015 6:23 PM, BillinGA wrote:
I made a set of bifold closet doors to replace louvered ones. My wife
does not
like to trying to get the dust out of the slats and wanted something
solid with a smooth surface. I stained the plywood panels , stiles,
and rails before glue up. My thoughts were the stain ( brushed, not
sprayed) would try to accumulate at the junction of panels and frame
if I waited until after assembly. Show of hands..how many would stain
after assembly? They turned out fine...just wondering.

Happy Thanksgiving to those who participate. All others, enjoy your
Thursday.

I stain parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, inset
corners and inset panels for example. I often leave the easier outer
surfaces unstained until after the clamps come off for good.

I think Leon meant

I stain _before_; the parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly.

No, he's right, though the language may be ambiguous to some. The
parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, he stains before
assembly.



If I had put a comma between stain and after it would be totally wrong.

So! I stain before assembly if parts are going to be difficult to
stain after assembly.


Thank you all for you skrew'nee. ;~)

On 11/26/15 10:25 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/26/2015 10:18 AM, krw wrote:
I stain parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, inset
corners and inset panels for example. I often leave the easier outer
surfaces unstained until after the clamps come off for good.

I think Leon meant

I stain _before_; the parts that will be difficult to stain after
assembly.

No, he's right, though the language may be ambiguous to some. The
parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, he stains before
assembly.



If I had put a comma between stain and after it would be totally wrong.

So! I stain before assembly if parts are going to be difficult to
stain after assembly.


Thank you all for you skrew'nee. ;~)

The wrong punctuation, but at least you used some.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:42:19 -0600, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 11/26/15 10:25 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/26/2015 10:18 AM, krw wrote:
I stain parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, inset
corners and inset panels for example. I often leave the easier outer
surfaces unstained until after the clamps come off for good.

I think Leon meant

I stain _before_; the parts that will be difficult to stain after
assembly.

No, he's right, though the language may be ambiguous to some. The
parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, he stains before
assembly.



If I had put a comma between stain and after it would be totally wrong.

So! I stain before assembly if parts are going to be difficult to
stain after assembly.


Thank you all for you skrew'nee. ;~)

The wrong punctuation, but at least you used some.

How so? His punctuation looked fine to me (though perhaps his comma
could have been a hyphen).

On 11/26/15 12:18 PM, krw wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:42:19 -0600, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 11/26/15 10:25 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/26/2015 10:18 AM, krw wrote:
I stain parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, inset
corners and inset panels for example. I often leave the easier outer
surfaces unstained until after the clamps come off for good.

I think Leon meant

I stain _before_; the parts that will be difficult to stain after
assembly.

No, he's right, though the language may be ambiguous to some. The
parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, he stains before
assembly.



If I had put a comma between stain and after it would be totally wrong.

So! I stain before assembly if parts are going to be difficult to
stain after assembly.


Thank you all for you skrew'nee. ;~)

The wrong punctuation, but at least you used some.

How so? His punctuation looked fine to me (though perhaps his comma
could have been a hyphen).


It was a joke. His sentence is substantially easier to read than
certain posters who refuse to use any punctuation at all.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 12:48:08 -0600, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 11/26/15 12:18 PM, krw wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:42:19 -0600, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 11/26/15 10:25 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/26/2015 10:18 AM, krw wrote:
I stain parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, inset
corners and inset panels for example. I often leave the easier outer
surfaces unstained until after the clamps come off for good.

I think Leon meant

I stain _before_; the parts that will be difficult to stain after
assembly.

No, he's right, though the language may be ambiguous to some. The
parts that will be difficult to stain after assembly, he stains before
assembly.



If I had put a comma between stain and after it would be totally wrong.

So! I stain before assembly if parts are going to be difficult to
stain after assembly.


Thank you all for you skrew'nee. ;~)

The wrong punctuation, but at least you used some.

How so? His punctuation looked fine to me (though perhaps his comma
could have been a hyphen).


It was a joke. His sentence is substantially easier to read than
certain posters who refuse to use any punctuation at all.

I got the joke (it was something to do with cauls, right?) but thought
you had a punctuation point, too. ;-)

Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in
:


Was I not clear? ;~)

Maybe you need to be water based?

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 16:23:25 -0800 (PST)
BillinGA wrote:

panels and frame if I waited until after assembly. Show of hands..how
many would stain after assembly? They turned out fine...just

will the stain alter the effect of gluing

i would check all the data on the stain and see if it would make a
difference with the glue adhesion

if it does not make a difference i would stain first

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 16:23:25 -0800 (PST)
BillinGA wrote:

panels and frame if I waited until after assembly. Show of hands..how
many would stain after assembly? They turned out fine...just


I generally will finish the panels before assembly. This will
help prevent unfinished portions of the panel appearing when
exposed by changes in humidity.