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Pin Nailer review.
I am about to add a pin nailer to my workshop.
I have read a few reviews on the Internet. Most of the comments are related to the expensive Pin Nailers. Some review are pushing for up to 2" long pin while the others are ranging from 3/8" to 1". The following video is good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5hhVx0E6EE However I hate to spend top money for a pin nailer to be used occasionally for furniture making. This group may be able to provide practical feedback on different pin nailers used by the hobbyists. |
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Pin Nailer review.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:51:31 -0400, "Denis M"
The following video is good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5hhVx0E6EE However I hate to spend top money for a pin nailer to be used occasionally for furniture making. Grex is one of the better quality nailers I believe, but if you go by many of the recent comments, most cheap nailers will work fine. Or, two of the really cheap ones at some sale, should one die off early. |
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Pin Nailer review.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:51:31 -0400, "Denis M"
wrote: I am about to add a pin nailer to my workshop. I have read a few reviews on the Internet. Most of the comments are related to the expensive Pin Nailers. Some review are pushing for up to 2" long pin while the others are ranging from 3/8" to 1". The following video is good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5hhVx0E6EE However I hate to spend top money for a pin nailer to be used occasionally for furniture making. This group may be able to provide practical feedback on different pin nailers used by the hobbyists. Do you mean 23ga pin nailer or 16-18ga brad nailer, Denis? Lots of us occasional users have the $30 Harbor Freight brad nailer/staplers and love them. http://tinyurl.com/7psb2pq For everything else. $25 23ga pinner: http://tinyurl.com/89azexy for fine furniture For hobbyist and other occasional use, I've never seen any need to spend over $100 for a fancy brand. For a professional, who uses a pinner daily, the additional money _might_ be worth it. -- To use fear as the friend it is, we must retrain and reprogram ourselves... We must persistently and convincingly tell ourselves that the fear is here--with its gift of energy and heightened awareness--so we can do our best and learn the most in the new situation. Peter McWilliams, Life 101 |
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Pin Nailer review.
On 2/12/2012 8:16 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:51:31 -0400, "Denis M" wrote: I am about to add a pin nailer to my workshop. I have read a few reviews on the Internet. Most of the comments are related to the expensive Pin Nailers. Some review are pushing for up to 2" long pin while the others are ranging from 3/8" to 1". The following video is good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5hhVx0E6EE However I hate to spend top money for a pin nailer to be used occasionally for furniture making. This group may be able to provide practical feedback on different pin nailers used by the hobbyists. Do you mean 23ga pin nailer or 16-18ga brad nailer, Denis? Lots of us occasional users have the$30 Harbor Freight brad nailer/staplers and love them. http://tinyurl.com/7psb2pq For everything else. $25 23ga pinner: http://tinyurl.com/89azexy for fine furniture For hobbyist and other occasional use, I've never seen any need to spend over $100 for a fancy brand. For a professional, who uses a pinner daily, the additional money _might_ be worth it. I've never used any of the Harbor Freight nailers mentioned by Larry, but if you're at all apprehensive about them and want to step up to a good quality "brand name" nailer, I can attest that the Paslode T200 is a wonderful tool, and can be had for under $100: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005RHQN/?tag=paslodecom-20 http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...000003+9 0401 My buddy bought one, and after borrowing it several times and *loving* it I went out and bought my own. -- Any given amount of traffic flow, no matter how sparse, will expand to fill all available lanes. To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
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Pin Nailer review.
I have the one from HF and its fine for my use. It only shoots 1" pins but
its fine for me. Got it on sale for around $20. The only issue I have with the video itself is that it looks like and probably is a ad for the Grex brand nailer. A brand I have never seen. The Grex looks good though the best feature I can see is the low nail lockout feature. When you are out of pins, the only way to find out is when your nailed piece doesn't stay where you nailed it. "Denis M" wrote in message ... I am about to add a pin nailer to my workshop. I have read a few reviews on the Internet. Most of the comments are related to the expensive Pin Nailers. Some review are pushing for up to 2" long pin while the others are ranging from 3/8" to 1". The following video is good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5hhVx0E6EE However I hate to spend top money for a pin nailer to be used occasionally for furniture making. This group may be able to provide practical feedback on different pin nailers used by the hobbyists. |
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Pin Nailer review.
Oh and I found it for $299.
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Pin Nailer review.
Cliff Hartle wrote:
I have the one from HF and its fine for my use. It only shoots 1" pins but its fine for me. Got it on sale for around $20. I have the Harbor Freight 2-in-1 nailer and it works just fine. I've had it for 4 or 5 years now and I shoot staples and brads through it. It has no trouble with the 2" brads, which are the longest it will shoot. This is the one I have... http://www.harborfreight.com/18-gaug...7524-3795.html -- -Mike- |
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Pin Nailer review.
On 2/12/2012 6:51 AM, Denis M wrote:
I am about to add a pin nailer to my workshop. I have read a few reviews on the Internet. Most of the comments are related to the expensive Pin Nailers. Some review are pushing for up to 2" long pin while the others are ranging from 3/8" to 1". The following video is good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5hhVx0E6EE However I hate to spend top money for a pin nailer to be used occasionally for furniture making. This group may be able to provide practical feedback on different pin nailers used by the hobbyists. I have the Grex 635 and have had it for 3~4 years now. A great tool. A pin nailer is great for what it was intended but keep in mind that once you start using the longer pins, =1-3/8" the risk of deflection increases dramatically. The guns are capable of shooting the longer pins but when you get into the harder woods the longer pins will follow the grain. It is great for adding trim until the glue dries, setting up jigs, and any where you don't want to see the nail hole. |
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Pin Nailer review.
On 2/12/2012 1:11 PM, Leon wrote:
I have the Grex 635 and have had it for 3~4 years now. A great tool. A pin nailer is great for what it was intended but keep in mind that once you start using the longer pins, =1-3/8" the risk of deflection increases dramatically. The guns are capable of shooting the longer pins but when you get into the harder woods the longer pins will follow the grain. It is great for adding trim until the glue dries, setting up jigs, and any where you don't want to see the nail hole. Extra capacity is great when you need it, but thus far I've had very few situations, if any, where my 23ga Omer, limited to just a RCH under 3/4" in pin length, has not been sufficient for my needs (attaching trim). It would be interesting to see a graph of the most used lengths of those owning pinners ... probably some sales data would tell the tale. -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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Pin Nailer review.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:26:29 -0600, Swingman wrote:
Extra capacity is great when you need it, but thus far I've had very few situations, if any, where my 23ga Omer, limited to just a RCH under 3/4" in pin length, has not been sufficient for my needs (attaching trim). I'd guess that crown molding would be one of the more common uses for longer pins. |
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Pin Nailer review.
On 2/12/2012 1:26 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/12/2012 1:11 PM, Leon wrote: I have the Grex 635 and have had it for 3~4 years now. A great tool. A pin nailer is great for what it was intended but keep in mind that once you start using the longer pins, =1-3/8" the risk of deflection increases dramatically. The guns are capable of shooting the longer pins but when you get into the harder woods the longer pins will follow the grain. It is great for adding trim until the glue dries, setting up jigs, and any where you don't want to see the nail hole. Extra capacity is great when you need it, but thus far I've had very few situations, if any, where my 23ga Omer, limited to just a RCH under 3/4" in pin length, has not been sufficient for my needs (attaching trim). It would be interesting to see a graph of the most used lengths of those owning pinners ... probably some sales data would tell the tale. For what it is worth, when I bought my Grex 635 it came with an assortment of every size pin that it would shoot, 900 of each. I have used every size except the 7/7" and have purchased boxes of 10,000 in replacement sizes of 3/4" and 1/2". http://thefastenercompany.com/23_gauge_pins.htm will sell in smaller quantities of each size. |
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Pin Nailer review.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:53:22 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
I have used every size except the 7/7" and have purchased boxes of 10,000 in replacement sizes of 3/4" and 1/2". How difficult is it to pull apart pinned wood? Once in awhile, I shoot a nail when the wood isn't aligned properly. Just a dumb mistake, but the worst part is trying to pull the pieces apart without destroying the project. A headless pin would make correcting a mistake like that much easier to correct. |
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Pin Nailer review.
On 2/12/2012 1:32 PM, Dave wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:26:29 -0600, wrote: Extra capacity is great when you need it, but thus far I've had very few situations, if any, where my 23ga Omer, limited to just a RCH under 3/4" in pin length, has not been sufficient for my needs (attaching trim). I'd guess that crown molding would be one of the more common uses for longer pins. "Crown molding" covers a lot of territory in size, thickness and what it underlyingit. If I catch anyone working for me putting up "crown molding" in a house with just a 23ga pinner, they'd be corrected on the spot, and fired the second time. Smaller crown molding, maybe, and smaller molding and trim, like dentil molding, yes ... but, depending upon the length and width of the pieces being installed, you also better back the 23 ga pins with adhesive of some sort on anything over 1/2" thickness if you don't expect to come back to reattach it in short order. My experience, in any event. -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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Pin Nailer review.
On 2/12/2012 2:00 PM, Dave wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:53:22 -0600, Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet I have used every size except the 7/7" and have purchased boxes of 10,000 in replacement sizes of 3/4" and 1/2". How difficult is it to pull apart pinned wood? Once in awhile, I shoot a nail when the wood isn't aligned properly. Just a dumb mistake, but the worst part is trying to pull the pieces apart without destroying the project. A headless pin would make correcting a mistake like that much easier to correct. IME, much easier than pulling apart most material fastened with 18ga brads ... and I use both for making temporary jigs on almost every single project. If I want something I can pull a part more easily, and of the same length for the material, I use the pin nailer. No comparison. -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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On 2/12/2012 2:00 PM, Dave wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:53:22 -0600, Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet I have used every size except the 7/7" and have purchased boxes of 10,000 in replacement sizes of 3/4" and 1/2". How difficult is it to pull apart pinned wood? Once in awhile, I shoot a nail when the wood isn't aligned properly. Just a dumb mistake, but the worst part is trying to pull the pieces apart without destroying the project. A headless pin would make correcting a mistake like that much easier to correct. Normally not a problem unless you have shot several. Pulling them the rest of the way through when they deflect is a 50/50 deal for me. They break half the time but a file cleans up the burr quickly. |
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Pin Nailer review.
On 02/12/2012 08:06 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote:
In , Larry wrote: $25 23ga pinner: http://tinyurl.com/89azexy for fine furniture FWIW, I have the HF 23ga pin nailer, and it's never given me any trouble. It only goes up to 1" pins. Mine has seen only light use, so YMMV. I picked up the HF 3 pack - 16, 18 and pin nailers for something like $59.95 on sale. All are still working fine after 2 -3 years or so. Spent almost as much on a supply of nails from HD. Don't see the same offer on their online site now. -- "Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" -Winston Churchill |
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Pin Nailer review.
Think what you might be doing with a pin nailer.
The idea is to hold something until the glue dries. The basic job is to hold some molding to a piece of furniture. Good luck driving some tiny pin that's 2" long. Most pin nailers are "around" 1.25" but 1" is very common. On 2/12/2012 4:51 AM, Denis M wrote: I am about to add a pin nailer to my workshop. I have read a few reviews on the Internet. Most of the comments are related to the expensive Pin Nailers. Some review are pushing for up to 2" long pin while the others are ranging from 3/8" to 1". |
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Pin Nailer review.
On 2/12/2012 6:51 AM, Denis M wrote:
I am about to add a pin nailer to my workshop. I have read a few reviews on the Internet. Most of the comments are related to the expensive Pin Nailers. Some review are pushing for up to 2" long pin while the others are ranging from 3/8" to 1". The following video is good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5hhVx0E6EE However I hate to spend top money for a pin nailer to be used occasionally for furniture making. This group may be able to provide practical feedback on different pin nailers used by the hobbyists. A follow up to my comments about my Grex pinner. I have had the pinner almost 5 years. I had a problem with it 2 days ago, it would not retract the ram after each shot unless I removed the pins and dry fired. I called GREX, the receptionist was knowledgeable about the product and almost gave me the remedy but I probably confused her with too much information. She immediately turned me over to Raymond in tech service. Raymond let me describe the problem again in the order witnessed. He guided me through partial disassembley and diagnosed the problem and told me the exact seal that had gone bad. I had a repair kit. He offered a complimentary o-ring almost 4 years after the warranty expired. I refused the offer as I had the repair kit already. So from that point he had me open the repair kit instruction sheet and told me exactly which o-ring and the part number on the diagram to replace. Service after the sale and the warranty. I was impressed and 15 minutes later my gun was firing like new. |
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On 2/14/2012 4:06 PM, Pat Barber wrote:
Think what you might be doing with a pin nailer. The idea is to hold something until the glue dries. The basic job is to hold some molding to a piece of furniture. Good luck driving some tiny pin that's 2" long. Most pin nailers are "around" 1.25" but 1" is very common. On 2/12/2012 4:51 AM, Denis M wrote: I am about to add a pin nailer to my workshop. I have read a few reviews on the Internet. Most of the comments are related to the expensive Pin Nailers. Some review are pushing for up to 2" long pin while the others are ranging from 3/8" to 1". I agree with wishing luck to drive 2" pins. The gun will certainly do the deed but the pins are too light weight to not be deflected in hard woods. |
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On Feb 15, 8:28*am, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
Service after the sale and the warranty. *I was impressed and 15 minutes later my gun was firing like new. You know Leon, you just don't mind spending money on a product when you get what you pay for. Whether it's Festool, Grex, or any other product (like my Kershaw knives), I don't mind paying for a good product that has great customer support. As far as pinners go, I didn't know if I would actually use a one, so I bought one at HF for $12 when they were on sale. I don't use it much, but it is a tool I have come to use more often. Recently, I had a bath re-do for a realtor. The cabinets were old Doug Fir plywood built on site in the early 50s, and were still really solid. The doors were solid slabs with no features. I filled the pull holes, and put some new, fancy nickel 3 1/2" pulls on the doors and drawers. On the faces of the cabinets and drawers, I put a frame of a 5/8" bead that I held in about 3" all the way around. So it had a kind of traditional look, but with the molding being so small it didn't look too dated. I really used the hell out of the pinner on that job. It never misfired, jammed, or misbehaved. I did hit a couple of hard spots (probably a knot in the plywood substrate) which caused the pin to turn back 180 degrees. The misfires were easily removed with a pair of pliers. I liked the fact that with a prime coat, I didn't need to fill the holes. The paint filled them! Their was also a large pass through between the kitchen and the dining room. It was big enough that it also served as a bar to seat three people. The builder actually took a door, laid it flat, and installed that as the bar top. But years of too many coats of varnish coupled with too many cleanings had made top awful. It had too much old finish to resurface or to put on plastic. As I had done before for outside table tops, I put on an extra thick 12" floor tile that looked like slate. It came out great, was cheap, and the realtor was thrilled with the end product (especially the price!). A major improvement if you saw the original mess, and actually looked pretty good. (Don't look too close, you know...) The perimeter pieces that had been cut to match the "grout" pattern began to fall off. Too much gummy stuff under the tiles for them to stick. I took out the pinner, put the end pieces back up one at a time, and then shot them at an up angle so you didn't see them when looking directly at them or from the top. The pinner raised a little tab of plastic, which was easily driven back into the hole with a hammer. You never saw the pins. Part of the arsenal now, that's for sure. Robert |
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You happen to have any picture of the outside table tops
with the tile ??? I kinda like that concept and I'm looking for ideas. On 2/15/2012 11:38 AM, wrote: As I had done before for outside table tops, I put on an extra thick 12" floor tile that looked like slate. It came out great, was cheap, and the realtor was thrilled with the end product (especially the price!). |
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On Feb 15, 3:55*pm, Pat Barber wrote:
You happen to have any picture of the outside table tops with the tile ??? I kinda like that concept and I'm looking for ideas. I'll look and see. I'm not the best at taking pics of my work, but I might actually have some of that. If I do, I'll ping you. Robert |
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:28:09 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
A follow up to my comments about my Grex pinner. I have had the pinner almost 5 years. A question about pin nailing in regards to fine furniture. It's hard for me to visualize the size of a 23 gauge pin hole. I have looked at online images, but seeing in person will tell me everything I need to know. (something I'll be doing later this month when I visit my favourite tool dealer). Pinning trim on fine furniture. Do you fill the holes? Does the mere act of finishing fill the hole beyond cursory examination? Do you use some other non-pinned method to hold trim in place while you permanently attach it? Obviously, all these questions are a precursor to my buying a pin nailer. I'm mid way between the wanting stage and the knowing I need one stage. |
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On 2/19/2012 9:17 PM, Dave wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:28:09 -0600, Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet A follow up to my comments about my Grex pinner. I have had the pinner almost 5 years. A question about pin nailing in regards to fine furniture. It's hard for me to visualize the size of a 23 gauge pin hole. I have looked at online images, but seeing in person will tell me everything I need to know. (something I'll be doing later this month when I visit my favourite tool dealer). Pinning trim on fine furniture. Do you fill the holes? Does the mere act of finishing fill the hole beyond cursory examination? Do you use some other non-pinned method to hold trim in place while you permanently attach it? Obviously, all these questions are a precursor to my buying a pin nailer. I'm mid way between the wanting stage and the knowing I need one stage. Take a straight pin, poke it through a sheet of paper. There is your hole. 90% of the time you do not need to fill the holes especially if you are working in an obvious grained wood and or plan to stain. If working with white birch or maple you might want to putty the holes. I find that I use my pinner more and more, It is great for building jigs, the wood does not move when you shoot the pins and there is basically no recoil. And compared to most all other nails, pins are inexpensive. |
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On 2/19/2012 10:17 PM, Dave wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:28:09 -0600, Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet A follow up to my comments about my Grex pinner. I have had the pinner almost 5 years. A question about pin nailing in regards to fine furniture. It's hard for me to visualize the size of a 23 gauge pin hole. I have looked at online images, but seeing in person will tell me everything I need to know. (something I'll be doing later this month when I visit my favourite tool dealer). I finally broke down and bought a pin nailer, even though I rarely use nails in my shop. It has some value in making jigs and such, but I made jigs for many years without a nail gun. I bought a cheap gun that doubles as a stapler from HF. I figured the stapler would be good for upholstery, something I do about once every 15 years. The cheap gun works fine, except besides the pin hole, the hammer also makes a little obscene dent in the wood. I assume more expensive guns don't do this. When I first got the gun, I used it for several things instead of clamps for gluing stuff. No good, it was easy but left the dents and pin holes (18g) and more than once I bitched at myself for even buying the thing. I've learned not to use it when inappropriate, which for me is most of the time. Works great for rough cut bird houses though:-) Pinning trim on fine furniture. Do you fill the holes? Does the mere act of finishing fill the hole beyond cursory examination? Do you use some other non-pinned method to hold trim in place while you permanently attach it? I think they would be ideal for a trim carpenter, and you could paint the trim w/o filling the holes/dents. Fine furniture, nope, stay away from any sort of nail gun where possible. Norm was a fool and was selling nail guns. No way you could get away with what he did on fine furniture. I guess you could use them on cabinet backs. I built a 12' railing for an outside, second floor balcony for someone and used the gun for pining the baluster spacers down, that was great. Also a garden bench where I used spaces for the back slats in the top rail, also great for that. Fine furniture, no. Obviously, all these questions are a precursor to my buying a pin nailer. I'm mid way between the wanting stage and the knowing I need one stage. BTDT. Just go buy one and get it over with. -- Jack Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life. http://jbstein.com |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:45:03 -0500, Jack wrote:
Obviously, all these questions are a precursor to my buying a pin nailer. I'm mid way between the wanting stage and the knowing I need one stage. BTDT. Just go buy one and get it over with. I was already to buy a pin nailer until I heard about the Cadex pin nailers. With their nailer that can shoot slightly headed pins and regular pins, I'm having second thoughts about the brand of pin nailer I was going to buy. |
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On Feb 21, 1:48*pm, Dave wrote:
I was already to buy a pin nailer until I heard about the Cadex pin nailers. With their nailer that can shoot slightly headed pins and regular pins, I'm having second thoughts about the brand of pin nailer I was going to buy. I think it would depend on how much I would use it. I don't use mine much, so the HF model I paid $12 for was a real bargain when it was on sale. I bought their 3/4" pins at the same time and I was under $20 for both including tax. I would be ****ed if I had a $200 Cadex that sat for a few month at a time with no use. Robert |
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On 2/21/2012 2:48 PM, Dave wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:45:03 -0500, wrote: Obviously, all these questions are a precursor to my buying a pin nailer. I'm mid way between the wanting stage and the knowing I need one stage. BTDT. Just go buy one and get it over with. I was already to buy a pin nailer until I heard about the Cadex pin nailers. With their nailer that can shoot slightly headed pins and regular pins, I'm having second thoughts about the brand of pin nailer I was going to buy. I just used mine today, pinning the back of basement shelving unit on. The HF also shoots slightly headed pins as well as staples. The first two I managed to shoot through the side of the case. This seldom/never happens with nails. I only had a 3/8 rabbit for the back, and if your not used to using the nailer because you seldom use the damn thing, it's easy to miss where the nail will go the first couple of shots. I don't think I'd let an air nailer within 20 miles of any fine furniture I was making. Norm seemed to stab everything in site... Camera's hide a ton of garbage I say. I can tell you for sure I'm glad I bought the cheap ass HF tool, it works fine for as much as I use it. If I were a finish carpenter, I -might- buy a better one for durability, but I don't know how durable this one is, it seems decent, but it's so cheap money wise it's hard to think it would last with daily use. The only time it ever jammed on me was when I switched over from pins to staples to test it out. I think I had a staple try to shoot the same time as a pin, something like that. You have to take it apart to clear a jam. I think other ones have better methods, but not sure. Also, mine seems to need 60 psi to shoot, any less and no go. I generally shoot around 75 to 80. -- Jack Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life. http://jbstein.com |
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Jack wrote:
I just used mine today, pinning the back of basement shelving unit on. The HF also shoots slightly headed pins as well as staples. The first two I managed to shoot through the side of the case. This seldom/never happens with nails. I only had a 3/8 rabbit for the back, and if your not used to using the nailer because you seldom use the damn thing, it's easy to miss where the nail will go the first couple of shots. Echo that. I have had that very same thing happen to me. Just don't use the nailer enough to be instinctive with it and it's easy to send a nail someplace besides where you really wanted it. -- -Mike- |
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Pin Nailer review.
On 2/21/2012 1:48 PM, Dave wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:45:03 -0500, wrote: Obviously, all these questions are a precursor to my buying a pin nailer. I'm mid way between the wanting stage and the knowing I need one stage. BTDT. Just go buy one and get it over with. I was already to buy a pin nailer until I heard about the Cadex pin nailers. With their nailer that can shoot slightly headed pins and regular pins, I'm having second thoughts about the brand of pin nailer I was going to buy. Actually if I needed something that shot a headed fastener I would use a brad nailer. IMHO a headed pin defeats the purpose. |
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Pin Nailer review.
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:23:25 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: Jack wrote: I just used mine today, pinning the back of basement shelving unit on. The HF also shoots slightly headed pins as well as staples. The first two I managed to shoot through the side of the case. This seldom/never happens with nails. I only had a 3/8 rabbit for the back, and if your not used to using the nailer because you seldom use the damn thing, it's easy to miss where the nail will go the first couple of shots. Echo that. I have had that very same thing happen to me. Just don't use the nailer enough to be instinctive with it and it's easy to send a nail someplace besides where you really wanted it. When aim counts, hold a couple pieces of scrap together, put a single pencil dot on one, put the tip on that, fire once, and look at the relationship. Now you know precisely how far away from the tip the pin comes out. Better yet, draw the profile of the pinner's tip on the scrap piece for later reference. Drill a hole and use a nylon tie strip to bind it to the trigger guard to keep it with the gun. -- Every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving. -- Albert Einstein |
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Pin Nailer review.
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:54:06 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 2/21/2012 1:48 PM, Dave wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:45:03 -0500, wrote: Obviously, all these questions are a precursor to my buying a pin nailer. I'm mid way between the wanting stage and the knowing I need one stage. BTDT. Just go buy one and get it over with. I was already to buy a pin nailer until I heard about the Cadex pin nailers. With their nailer that can shoot slightly headed pins and regular pins, I'm having second thoughts about the brand of pin nailer I was going to buy. Actually if I needed something that shot a headed fastener I would use a brad nailer. IMHO a headed pin defeats the purpose. Don't the pins hold a wee bit better, anyway, from the heat-activated epoxy coating? -- Every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving. -- Albert Einstein |
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Pin Nailer review.
On 2/22/2012 10:27 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:23:25 -0500, "Mike Marlow" I just used mine today, pinning the back of basement shelving unit on. The HF also shoots slightly headed pins as well as staples. The first two I managed to shoot through the side of the case. This seldom/never happens with nails. I only had a 3/8 rabbit for the back, and if your not used to using the nailer because you seldom use the damn thing, it's easy to miss where the nail will go the first couple of shots. Echo that. I have had that very same thing happen to me. Just don't use the nailer enough to be instinctive with it and it's easy to send a nail someplace besides where you really wanted it. When aim counts, hold a couple pieces of scrap together, put a single pencil dot on one, put the tip on that, fire once, and look at the relationship. Now you know precisely how far away from the tip the pin comes out. Good advice. When I pinned the face frame on the shelves, I forced myself to shoot a practice shot into scrap wood, and it went exactly where I aimed it. I think with the back I was not just not careful, I also angled the gun a tad to make sure it didn't come out inside the case. Of course, it came out outside the case. That of course ****ed me off so I angled it a tad the other way, and of course, it came out inside the case. After I was done being stupid, all was well. Anyway, it's just some utility shelving for the garage the wife wanted, and I made it out of scrap stuff, so wasn't too worried. I may never shoot another pin through the side of a case, but I wouldn't bet on it. I never shot a nail through the side of anything before I got this air gun:-) They are a bit too much fun to use, and I find myself looking for things to nail when one is in my hands. -- Jack Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life. http://jbstein.com |
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