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fire extinguisher state of the art
current exitinguisher is old and have never used it thinking about an upgrade but have not kept up with latest trends what is the preferred style these days |
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On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 12:03:07 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
current exitinguisher is old and have never used it thinking about an upgrade but have not kept up with latest trends what is the preferred style these days Red!? For home or business, I think the local code may decide what is to be used, including smoke alarms and such. The code, here, doesn't mandate, or have specifics for, extinguishers for hobby shops or out-buildings, so, in the shop, I can use any that works. Sonny |
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On 4/29/2017 11:02 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
current exitinguisher is old and have never used it thinking about an upgrade but have not kept up with latest trends what is the preferred style these days Ask your local fire department. https://www.usfa.fema.gov/prevention...nguishers.html |
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 10:02:59 -0700, Electric Comet
wrote: current exitinguisher is old and have never used it thinking about an upgrade but have not kept up with latest trends what is the preferred style these days What flammables? |
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On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 4:30:24 PM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 12:03:07 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote: current exitinguisher is old and have never used it thinking about an upgrade but have not kept up with latest trends what is the preferred style these days Red!? For home or business, I think the local code may decide what is to be used, including smoke alarms and such. The code, here, doesn't mandate, or have specifics for, extinguishers for hobby shops or out-buildings, so, in the shop, I can use any that works. Sonny How do you know what will work? Have you run any tests? ;-) |
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On 4/29/2017 1:02 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
current exitinguisher is old and have never used it thinking about an upgrade but have not kept up with latest trends what is the preferred style these days ABC is the most common but if you have special needs other type may be better. Don't toss the old one. You can have it tested and recharged and put it in another part of the house. I have kitchen, shop, basement utility are covered. |
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Electric Comet wrote in newse2gq4$ajg$1
@dont-email.me: current exitinguisher is old and have never used it thinking about an upgrade but have not kept up with latest trends what is the preferred style these days I've got to wonder if that style that you could charge with shop air is still around. It seems to me that as long as the chemical stays good, shop air would be easy to maintain. Just keep it by the door and glance at the gauge as you go out, and when it gets low just recharge it. (All seals leak over time.) I'm guessing by the other responses that we don't have a lot of experience with extinguishers here. Good thing, though, as it means we haven't had a lot of fires! (Or dust collection & static charge incidents! (- [Darn emojis have me making those things backwards on Usenet, where emojis don't exist!) Puckdropper -- http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst! |
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On 4/29/2017 7:37 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
Electric Comet wrote in newse2gq4$ajg$1 @dont-email.me: current exitinguisher is old and have never used it thinking about an upgrade but have not kept up with latest trends what is the preferred style these days I've got to wonder if that style that you could charge with shop air is still around. It seems to me that as long as the chemical stays good, shop air would be easy to maintain. Just keep it by the door and glance at the gauge as you go out, and when it gets low just recharge it. (All seals leak over time.) If you define "over time" as eons, perhaps. If not, I can counter your "All seals leak over time" with the 10lb Ansul ABC sitting in my unheated garage. That went in service (or last inspected/charged) November 1986. Local service guy (fireman moonlighting) told me so long as it stays in the green zone or slightly above AND you shake or invert it a couple times every year or so it will do its job. If the chemicals get wet and cake up it will not work regardless of holding pressure. If the service tech does it properly, the air used to charge it has been through a dryer and it won't cake up. It's still ready to rock and roll after 31 years. Had another one with a good 23 years on it. Accumulation of cut grass and crap on the mower caught fire and SWMBO came running in the house screaming the mower was on fire. It was but that extinguisher worked just fine after 23 years. |
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Electric Comet wrote:
current exitinguisher is old and have never used it thinking about an upgrade but have not kept up with latest trends what is the preferred style these days http://www.h3rcleanagents.com/h3r-ha...inguishers.htm |
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On 4/29/2017 1:02 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
current exitinguisher is old and have never used it thinking about an upgrade but have not kept up with latest trends what is the preferred style these days ================================================== =========== That's a pretty broad question, but here goes; The preferred type and size would depend on what you have in your shop, what you do in it, and the size of your shop. For the average size home/hobby woodworking shop probably a multi-purpose ABC Dry Chemical type would be the most suitable. The ABC refers to the types of fires it can be safely used on - 'A' refers to common combustibles such as wood, paper, etc., 'B' is for flammable liquids, and 'C' is charged electrical equipment. In my shop (24' x 28') I keep and 5 lb ABC type by the exit door. If you have a large shop containing a lot of combustibles you might want to have a larger size on hand. They can commonly be found in sizes from 2-3 pounds up to 20 -25 pound sizes. If you have mainly class 'A' materials in the shop you might want to considered a pressurized water type as well (heated areas only) since water is a lot easier to clean up than dry chemical powder. Having said that, if you've never used an extinguisher on a fire then make a point to visit your local FD and see if they run training sessions that will allow you to use an extinguisher on small fires. You may be surprised at how short a time they will discharge for, often just a few seconds with the smaller ones. You also might want to keep in mind "PASS" - Pull the pin, Aim at the base of the fire, Squeeze the trigger, and Sweep from side to side. Also, make sure that where you mount it is along the pathway to an exit. In a small home type shop beside the exit door is best. The last thing you want is to have to enter a fire area to get the extinguisher. And, If THE FIRE LOOKS TOO BIG TO HANDLE DO NOT TRY TO FIGHT IT - LEAVE AND CALL THE FD! As far as maintaining it, check the pressure gauge frequently, and if a dry chemical type take it off its mount and shake it up monthly. DO NOT pull the pin and give it a quirt to see if it works. If you workshop is a commercial building, check the local fire code to determine requirements. Gil |
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On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 7:07:58 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
For home or business, I think the local code may decide what is to be used, including smoke alarms and such. The code, here, doesn't mandate, or have specifics for, extinguishers for hobby shops or out-buildings, so, in the shop, I can use any that works.. Sonny How do you know what will work? Have you run any tests? ;-) No. I simply commented as per my uneducated, but expert-advised, knowledge.. A friend, who's in the business, asked me to build a bistro table and, in exchange, gave me some out-of-code extinguishers, for my shop. There is no regulations or specific requirements for the shop scenario. As long as they worked, they were sufficient for the shop, as per his advice, and I can certainly trust his expert advice. *He was happy with the bistro table, also. Our table-extinguisher deal was negotiated about the time I purchased a used flammables cabinet. For a long time, I was concerned with the exposed flammables, in the shop. For larger shops, even hobby shops, I'd recommend a flammables cabinet, to complement any fire prevention measures. So, it was with these thoughts in mind, that I commented to EC, who asked for a "style" (sic) recommendation, and not something more specific.... at least as for as I understood. Personally, I had questioned his actual concern for advice, in the matter, as compared to other "random" threads he's started, but I do appreciate the subsequent info and comments others have made.... good advice for all of us. Sonny |
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