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Skirting Mitre
How do I mitre a 7" skirting board when the deepest box available is only
around 6 " and B&Q's deep cut mitre saw only does the same ? For a couple of cuts it hardly seems worthwhile hiring a specialist saw. |
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Mr John X wrote:
How do I mitre a 7" skirting board when the deepest box available is only around 6 " and B&Q's deep cut mitre saw only does the same ? For a couple of cuts it hardly seems worthwhile hiring a specialist saw. Use a normal mitre box to cut some scrap narrower pieces at the desired angle. Clamp these on the back to cover the full height of the board and use these to guide the saw. Only mitre external corners, internal ones should be scribed. Bear in mind that external room corners are rarely 90 degrees and so you might have to 'adjust' the mitre angles anyway. Small gaps caused by corners less than 90 degrees can be closed up by careful burring of the cut edges. Use a metal roller (round part of a large screwdriver)and roll this gently up and down the edge till the wood fibres fill the gap. hth Bob |
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Out of curiosity, why should you not mitre internal corners?
"Bob Minchin" wrote in message ... Mr John X wrote: How do I mitre a 7" skirting board when the deepest box available is only around 6 " and B&Q's deep cut mitre saw only does the same ? For a couple of cuts it hardly seems worthwhile hiring a specialist saw. Use a normal mitre box to cut some scrap narrower pieces at the desired angle. Clamp these on the back to cover the full height of the board and use these to guide the saw. Only mitre external corners, internal ones should be scribed. Bear in mind that external room corners are rarely 90 degrees and so you might have to 'adjust' the mitre angles anyway. Small gaps caused by corners less than 90 degrees can be closed up by careful burring of the cut edges. Use a metal roller (round part of a large screwdriver)and roll this gently up and down the edge till the wood fibres fill the gap. hth Bob |
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"Antony" wrote in message ... Out of curiosity, why should you not mitre internal corners? Because: (a) It's easier to measure accurately (b) Partly because of (a), and partly because a scribed joint hides any variation in the angle of the walls, you'll get a better result. -- Alan Shilling |
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"Mr John X" wrote in message ... How do I mitre a 7" skirting board when the deepest box available is only around 6 " and B&Q's deep cut mitre saw only does the same ? For a couple of cuts it hardly seems worthwhile hiring a specialist saw. Hacksaw + care? Coping saw? You only need to get the top edge decent, you can overcut the rest. Also, if it isn't absolutely perfect, YOU will be the only one who knows/cares |
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Alan Shilling wrote: Out of curiosity, why should you not mitre internal corners? Because: (a) It's easier to measure accurately (b) Partly because of (a), and partly because a scribed joint hides any variation in the angle of the walls, you'll get a better result. It also makes the inevitable shrinkage less noticeable. -- *If a mute swears, does his mother wash his hands with soap? Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:19:18 +0000 (UTC), "Mr John X"
wrote: How do I mitre a 7" skirting board when the deepest box available is only around 6 " You use a board mitre. Looks different, only supports the saw on one side, and comes in a range of sizes up to about 9" http://www.emir.co.uk/docs/Pages/HndTool2.htm Don't mitre internal corners either, unless you live in a De Stijl house. Coping is nearly as quick to do, handles wonky angles better and looks _much_ better if there's ever any movement. Use a coping saw (hence the name) to saw one board into the matching profile of the other. Takes longer than a mitre, but then you only have to do it to one board, the other is just sawn straight. -- What ? Me ? Evil Dictator of Iraq ? Nah mate, I'm just a Hobbit, honest |
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"Antony" wrote in message ... Out of curiosity, why should you not mitre internal corners? As Bob says, the wals are almost never at ninety degrees with each other, so if the mitres at cut for a ninety degree angle and the walls are more or less than that, then the mitre won't fit correctly. If you use a piece of skirting as a template to scribe out the shape on the back of the piece you want to cut, then follow the line with coping saw, you can fit one length of skirting over the other at any angle you need without it looking bad. "Bob Minchin" wrote in message ... Mr John X wrote: How do I mitre a 7" skirting board when the deepest box available is only around 6 " and B&Q's deep cut mitre saw only does the same ? For a couple of cuts it hardly seems worthwhile hiring a specialist saw. Use a normal mitre box to cut some scrap narrower pieces at the desired angle. Clamp these on the back to cover the full height of the board and use these to guide the saw. Only mitre external corners, internal ones should be scribed. Bear in mind that external room corners are rarely 90 degrees and so you might have to 'adjust' the mitre angles anyway. Small gaps caused by corners less than 90 degrees can be closed up by careful burring of the cut edges. Use a metal roller (round part of a large screwdriver)and roll this gently up and down the edge till the wood fibres fill the gap. hth Bob |
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Andy Dingley wrote:
Don't mitre internal corners either, unless you live in a De Stijl house. Coping is nearly as quick to do, handles wonky angles better and looks _much_ better if there's ever any movement. Dodgy Netherlands art movement or not, I like internal mitred corners and simple white skirting with no grooves The 50s crap that was here originally was scribed and looked dreadful. Maybe because it was poorly done though... Lee -- To reply use lee.blaver and ntlworld.com |
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Dodgy Netherlands art movement or not, I like internal mitred corners and simple white skirting with no grooves The 50s crap that was here originally was scribed and looked dreadful. Maybe because it was poorly done though... Tosser? |
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 02:13:59 +0000, Lee Blaver
wrote: [snip] was scribed and looked dreadful. Maybe because it was poorly done though... I've never had a deal of success with internal mitres - on skirtings, the decorative part of sash windows, or once on some trim around the top of book-case bays. Could somebody please explain just what the technique is to "scribe" these internal joints - it's often referred to in books but never deomonstrated. I've done simple ones where there are "real right angles" (? TM) with simple rectangular bits of wood but always mess up on the "arty" mouldings ... please take pity ... Thanks, Barley Twist (Please put out the cats to reply direct) |
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Barley Twist wrote: Could somebody please explain just what the technique is to "scribe" these internal joints - it's often referred to in books but never deomonstrated. Take a piece of the skirting with a square end, and butt it up against the *back* (flat) of the piece you want to scribe, keeping it at a right angle. Draw round the moulding with a sharp pencil. Then carefully cut round the pencil line with a coping saw keeping it absolutely square - takes a bit of practice. The part which *isn't* scribed should be the longer piece - this usually means the back part of an alcove. Being longer it is likely to shrink more. -- *The longest recorded flightof a chicken is thirteen seconds * Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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"Barley Twist" wrote in message ... Could somebody please explain just what the technique is to "scribe" these internal joints - it's often referred to in books but never deomonstrated. I've done simple ones where there are "real right angles" (? TM) with simple rectangular bits of wood but always mess up on the "arty" mouldings ... Let's see if I can describe this OK. Take a piece of skirting and mitre it as normal (internal corner). Now take a coping saw and follow the profile at the top of the mitre. If done carefully and correctly the cut piece should be an exact fit over the front face of the other skirting you are mating to. I hope that makes sense to you, it does to me but I know what I am trying to say! Try it on a few bits of scrap first, it's not as dificult as it sounds. HTH John |
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PJO wrote:
Dodgy Netherlands art movement or not, I like internal mitred corners and simple white skirting with no grooves The 50s crap that was here originally was scribed and looked dreadful. Maybe because it was poorly done though... Tosser? You wouldn't have said that if you had seen the state of the original skirtings here... Maybe coping does look better on fancy mouldings, if it's done properly. I just don't like fancy mouldings, personal choice isn't it? Also, as I've said before, I just cannot understand the preoccupation with hideous Victorian/Edwardian features, but hey, that's my choice as well. Lee -- To reply use lee.blaver and ntlworld.com |
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