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Lathe value... I know I'm going to regret asking this.
We have an old lathe we're going to sell. Campus Purchasing likes to
offer things like this to employees first through a sealed bid. The money goes back into our department's account. Therefore, we have a vested interest in getting a decent price. We can set a minimum acceptable bid though. It seems in good shape except the cone pulley's surfaces are getting polished. Anyway here's what we have, and I'd like to get an idea what it's worth. South Bend Lathe: Vintage 1938-1943 Model # CL390AD (10K-Model A), Serial # 10898KKR7 220-240/440vac, 3-Phase, 3 HP Motor 12 Speed, v-belt(2) x flat belt(3) x back-gear(2), 48-1435 RPM 48" bed 10" through over bed 30" between centers Quick-change gear box, 40 feeds Compound rest. Metal column base w/ 3 drawers Accessories [South Bend Part Number]: Steady Rest [CL240K] Follower Rest [CL2395K] Carriage Stop, Plain [CL758NK] Collet Set, 10 collets w/ hand-wheel, 1/16" to 5/8" [CL5417K] Spindle Nose Thread Protector [CL3515K] Thread Dial (made in-house /w SB worm pinion gear) Thread Cutting Stop [CL2250NK] 9" Large Face Plate, 6 Slots, 36 Tapped Holes [CL1483NK] 5" Face Plate, single for dogs [CA2175L] 6" 4-Jaw Independent Chuck, set for outside clamping [CL4006] 6" 4-Jaw Independent Chuck, set for inside clamping [CL4006] 5" 3-Jaw Universal Chuck, w/ 3 sets of jaws (Cushman Chuck Co. Ref No. 3005) 5" 3-Jaw Universal Chuck, (unknown manufacturer, Model 101.21651) Drill Chuck, ½", MT2 (Jacobs) Dead Center, MT2 [CE2401] Dead Center, MT2 [CE2401] Spindle Sleeve [CL205NK] Tool Post, Lantern Type [CE2450NK] Tool Holder, Straight Turning, 1/4"x1/4" [CE847S] Tool Holder, Right Turning, 1/4"x1/4" [CE847R] Tool Holder, Left Turning, 1/4"x1/4" [CE847L] Tool Holder, Threading, Straight, 1/4"x1/4" [CE648] Tool Holder, Straight Cutting-Off, 3/32"x 0.595" [CE833S] Tool Holder, Right Cutting-Off, 3/32"x 0.595" [CE833S] Tool Holder, Boring Bar, 3/8" (Williams, No.00B) (similar to SB CE423) Tool Holder, Boring Bar, 3/8" (Williams, No.00B) (similar to SB CE423) Tool, Knurling (Williams No. O-K) (similar to SB CE665) Taper Attachment [CL428] Wrenches, Misc. hex and square for tool holders and carriage lock Documents: "HOW TO RUN A LATHE", South Bend Inc. "LUBRICATION CHART, CHART 6202", South Bend Lathe Corporation "LUBRICATION CHART, CHART 6514", South Bend Lathe Corporation "SOUTH BEND LATHE, CE3457 PARTS MANUAL, 10K MODEL" "SOUTH BEND LATHE CORP. LATHE ACCESSORIES" "PARTS LIST, South Bend Lathe Corp" "Thread Dial Indicator for a Lathe" |
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Lathe value... I know I'm going to regret asking this.
Isn't Macalester in Minnesota? If there isn't any rust, then that setup
should bring something like $1200-1800. Note that you may well return yourself more money if you sell the base lathe and then sell each attachment separately. That's a complete turnkey except for the 3-phase motor. Lots of guys won't touch a 3ph machine. Grant Erwin Ken Moffett wrote: We have an old lathe we're going to sell. Campus Purchasing likes to offer things like this to employees first through a sealed bid. The money goes back into our department's account. Therefore, we have a vested interest in getting a decent price. We can set a minimum acceptable bid though. It seems in good shape except the cone pulley's surfaces are getting polished. Anyway here's what we have, and I'd like to get an idea what it's worth. South Bend Lathe: Vintage 1938-1943 Model # CL390AD (10K-Model A), Serial # 10898KKR7 220-240/440vac, 3-Phase, 3 HP Motor 12 Speed, v-belt(2) x flat belt(3) x back-gear(2), 48-1435 RPM 48" bed 10" through over bed 30" between centers Quick-change gear box, 40 feeds Compound rest. Metal column base w/ 3 drawers Accessories [South Bend Part Number]: Steady Rest [CL240K] Follower Rest [CL2395K] Carriage Stop, Plain [CL758NK] Collet Set, 10 collets w/ hand-wheel, 1/16" to 5/8" [CL5417K] Spindle Nose Thread Protector [CL3515K] Thread Dial (made in-house /w SB worm pinion gear) Thread Cutting Stop [CL2250NK] 9" Large Face Plate, 6 Slots, 36 Tapped Holes [CL1483NK] 5" Face Plate, single for dogs [CA2175L] 6" 4-Jaw Independent Chuck, set for outside clamping [CL4006] 6" 4-Jaw Independent Chuck, set for inside clamping [CL4006] 5" 3-Jaw Universal Chuck, w/ 3 sets of jaws (Cushman Chuck Co. Ref No. 3005) 5" 3-Jaw Universal Chuck, (unknown manufacturer, Model 101.21651) Drill Chuck, ½", MT2 (Jacobs) Dead Center, MT2 [CE2401] Dead Center, MT2 [CE2401] Spindle Sleeve [CL205NK] Tool Post, Lantern Type [CE2450NK] Tool Holder, Straight Turning, 1/4"x1/4" [CE847S] Tool Holder, Right Turning, 1/4"x1/4" [CE847R] Tool Holder, Left Turning, 1/4"x1/4" [CE847L] Tool Holder, Threading, Straight, 1/4"x1/4" [CE648] Tool Holder, Straight Cutting-Off, 3/32"x 0.595" [CE833S] Tool Holder, Right Cutting-Off, 3/32"x 0.595" [CE833S] Tool Holder, Boring Bar, 3/8" (Williams, No.00B) (similar to SB CE423) Tool Holder, Boring Bar, 3/8" (Williams, No.00B) (similar to SB CE423) Tool, Knurling (Williams No. O-K) (similar to SB CE665) Taper Attachment [CL428] Wrenches, Misc. hex and square for tool holders and carriage lock Documents: "HOW TO RUN A LATHE", South Bend Inc. "LUBRICATION CHART, CHART 6202", South Bend Lathe Corporation "LUBRICATION CHART, CHART 6514", South Bend Lathe Corporation "SOUTH BEND LATHE, CE3457 PARTS MANUAL, 10K MODEL" "SOUTH BEND LATHE CORP. LATHE ACCESSORIES" "PARTS LIST, South Bend Lathe Corp" "Thread Dial Indicator for a Lathe" |
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Lathe value... I know I'm going to regret asking this.
Ken - If this were selling on Ebay with all the tooling, taper, etc. it would
probably bring around $1200 or so. If it were my decision, I'd set the minimum for employees at around $800. A serious buyer should consider it a good deal at this price. John M |
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Lathe value... I know I'm going to regret asking this.
Grant Erwin wrote:
Isn't Macalester in Minnesota? If there isn't any rust, then that setup should bring something like $1200-1800. Note that you may well return yourself more money if you sell the base lathe and then sell each attachment separately. That's a complete turnkey except for the 3-phase motor. Lots of guys won't touch a 3ph machine. Grant Erwin Ken Moffett wrote: We have an old lathe we're going to sell. Campus Purchasing likes to offer things like this to employees first through a sealed bid. The money goes back into our department's account. Therefore, we have a vested interest in getting a decent price. We can set a minimum acceptable bid though. It seems in good shape except the cone pulley's surfaces are getting polished. Anyway here's what we have, and I'd like to get an idea what it's worth. South Bend Lathe: Vintage 1938-1943 Model # CL390AD (10K-Model A), Serial # 10898KKR7 220-240/440vac, 3-Phase, 3 HP Motor 12 Speed, v-belt(2) x flat belt(3) x back-gear(2), 48-1435 RPM 48" bed 10" through over bed 30" between centers Quick-change gear box, 40 feeds Compound rest. Metal column base w/ 3 drawers Accessories [South Bend Part Number]: Steady Rest [CL240K] Follower Rest [CL2395K] Carriage Stop, Plain [CL758NK] Collet Set, 10 collets w/ hand-wheel, 1/16" to 5/8" [CL5417K] Spindle Nose Thread Protector [CL3515K] Thread Dial (made in-house /w SB worm pinion gear) Thread Cutting Stop [CL2250NK] 9" Large Face Plate, 6 Slots, 36 Tapped Holes [CL1483NK] 5" Face Plate, single for dogs [CA2175L] 6" 4-Jaw Independent Chuck, set for outside clamping [CL4006] 6" 4-Jaw Independent Chuck, set for inside clamping [CL4006] 5" 3-Jaw Universal Chuck, w/ 3 sets of jaws (Cushman Chuck Co. Ref No. 3005) 5" 3-Jaw Universal Chuck, (unknown manufacturer, Model 101.21651) Drill Chuck, ½", MT2 (Jacobs) Dead Center, MT2 [CE2401] Dead Center, MT2 [CE2401] Spindle Sleeve [CL205NK] Tool Post, Lantern Type [CE2450NK] Tool Holder, Straight Turning, 1/4"x1/4" [CE847S] Tool Holder, Right Turning, 1/4"x1/4" [CE847R] Tool Holder, Left Turning, 1/4"x1/4" [CE847L] Tool Holder, Threading, Straight, 1/4"x1/4" [CE648] Tool Holder, Straight Cutting-Off, 3/32"x 0.595" [CE833S] Tool Holder, Right Cutting-Off, 3/32"x 0.595" [CE833S] Tool Holder, Boring Bar, 3/8" (Williams, No.00B) (similar to SB CE423) Tool Holder, Boring Bar, 3/8" (Williams, No.00B) (similar to SB CE423) Tool, Knurling (Williams No. O-K) (similar to SB CE665) Taper Attachment [CL428] Wrenches, Misc. hex and square for tool holders and carriage lock Documents: "HOW TO RUN A LATHE", South Bend Inc. "LUBRICATION CHART, CHART 6202", South Bend Lathe Corporation "LUBRICATION CHART, CHART 6514", South Bend Lathe Corporation "SOUTH BEND LATHE, CE3457 PARTS MANUAL, 10K MODEL" "SOUTH BEND LATHE CORP. LATHE ACCESSORIES" "PARTS LIST, South Bend Lathe Corp" "Thread Dial Indicator for a Lathe" Yes, Macalester College is in st Paul Minnesota. It is totally rust free and is still being used. I thought about splitting the accessories off for that very reason. But, since South Bend is gone, and LaBlonde is probably charging big bucks for any SB parts and accessories, I thought whoever got the lathe, should get it loaded with everything. Thanks for the input. |
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