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Has anyone hired a company to reface their kitchen/bathroom cabinets?

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Has anyone hired a company to reface their kitchen/bathroom cabinets?

If so, were you happy with the results and can you give me some tips?

Many thanks.

Kate


We did, with Sears in Florida. We had signed papers with Home Depot to
replace cabinets with new, and got as far as the sub who did the
measurements...when we went to HD afterward, the planner couldn't figure
out why one wall of the kitchen had a wierd angle. That was a deal
killer, as it was obvious that a measurement made at the corner of the
two walls was incorrect; the sub put in something other than 90 degrees.
I wasn't going to work with someone who couldn't solve such a simple
issue. We weren't going to bother asking for our deposit ($100) back,
but on a later trip to the store the kitchen planner flagged us down and
made us take it )

We then decided that since the old cabinets were good, just ugly, we'd
look at refacing. We had 3/4" ply, built in place cabinets as good as
the day they were built. The carpenter for Sears worked for a week,
refacing, new doors and drawers. We used old door and drawer pulls, but
other hardware was new. I painted inside of cabinets prior to the work.
The carp. was skilled and careful, but I had to call him on a couple
of issues, the major one being counter-top that wasn't even along the
miter at a corner. They are subject to water instrusion if not joined
exactly even and tight. The next issue was a sub who installed the new
sink...from RotoRooter, if I remember right. Late on a Friday, he tried
to convince us that since he didn't have the right size clamps to hold
down the stainless sink, just a line of silicone caulk was going to glue
it down tight. No way!! Hubby made a run to plumbing supply whilst I
held the guy prisoner and we got the sink fastened down right. The
plumber was a dope.

Bottom line: a name is just a name. Sears or HD or whomever will have a
variety of contractors, not all good or all bad. You need to know what
they need to know and be there to watch them do the work. We didn't
hover, but sure checked often. It was expensive, so refacing cheap
cabinets may not be wise...if just refacing, not replacing major items,
might be good. We also covered old metal wall tile with laminate and
then installed glass as a backsplash above our cooktop...love it, so
easy to clean.

I think it is always best to hire contractors whose work you can see, so
check with friends or neighbors. Refacing might be fairly simple, just
contact cement. The cutting and finishing is where quality shows.
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On 3/29/2011 5:14 AM, Kate wrote:

Has anyone hired a company to reface their kitchen/bathroom cabinets?


If so, were you happy with the results and can you give me some tips?


Many thanks.


Kate


We did, with Sears in Florida. We had signed papers with Home Depot to
replace cabinets with new, and got as far as the sub who did the
measurements...when we went to HD afterward, the planner couldn't figure
out why one wall of the kitchen had a wierd angle. *That was a deal
killer, as it was obvious that a measurement made at the corner of the
two walls was incorrect; the sub put in something other than 90 degrees.
* I wasn't going to work with someone who couldn't solve such a simple
issue. *We weren't going to bother asking for our deposit ($100) back,
but on a later trip to the store the kitchen planner flagged us down and
made us take it )

We then decided that since the old cabinets were good, just ugly, we'd
look at refacing. *We had 3/4" ply, built in place cabinets as good as
the day they were built. *The carpenter for Sears worked for a week,
refacing, new doors and drawers. *We used old door and drawer pulls, but
other hardware was new. *I painted inside of cabinets prior to the work..
* The carp. was skilled and careful, but I had to call him on a couple
of issues, the major one being counter-top that wasn't even along the
miter at a corner. *They are subject to water instrusion if not joined
exactly even and tight. *The next issue was a sub who installed the new
sink...from RotoRooter, if I remember right. *Late on a Friday, he tried
to convince us that since he didn't have the right size clamps to hold
down the stainless sink, just a line of silicone caulk was going to glue
it down tight. *No way!! *Hubby made a run to plumbing supply whilst I
held the guy prisoner and we got the sink fastened down right. *The
plumber was a dope.

Bottom line: a name is just a name. *Sears or HD or whomever will have a
variety of contractors, not all good or all bad. *You need to know what
they need to know and be there to watch them do the work. *We didn't
hover, but sure checked often. *It was expensive, so refacing cheap
cabinets may not be wise...if just refacing, not replacing major items,
might be good. *We also covered old metal wall tile with laminate and
then installed glass as a backsplash above our cooktop...love it, so
easy to clean.

I think it is always best to hire contractors whose work you can see, so
check with friends or neighbors. *Refacing might be fairly simple, just
contact cement. *The cutting and finishing is where quality shows.


I'm going to say don't do what this person did. Sear and HD are not
the place to go for work. Supplies yes, work no. They often have the
least experienced contractors because Sears, HD, and ohers take a
piece off the top. To be price competitive they need cheap
contractors.
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Has anyone hired a company to reface their kitchen/bathroom cabinets?

If so, were you happy with the results and can you give me some tips?

Many thanks.

Kate


My daughter had hers done in Las Vegas by a local company. They looked
beautiful afterwards and the cost was much lower than new. I didn't think
they were going to come out as good as they did. Shop around and ask
people. You will find some who will give you an idea or direction in a
short time. Some companies even provide names of satisfied customers, and
you can go look at the work.

We just redid our kitchen, and we found a cabinet maker that was going out
of business. They were prefabs, like HD's, and he could alter them, unlike
HD. We had investigated HD before, and if it's anything other than the
standard size, they can't or won't do it. The prices from our going out of
business guy were 1/4 of HD, and the quality was the same. Such a deal,
plus, he GAVE us about three dozen new in box cabinets and about 250 glides
with piston stoppers that I'm selling on craigslist. I helped him sell a
lot of his cabinets and his pallet racking shelves by putting ads on
craigslist around the SW US, and it was quite a nice little commission.

Steve

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On 3/29/2011 5:14 AM, Kate wrote:
Has anyone hired a company to reface their kitchen/bathroom cabinets?

If so, were you happy with the results and can you give me some tips?

Many thanks.

Kate


We did, with Sears in Florida. We had signed papers with Home Depot to
replace cabinets with new, and got as far as the sub who did the
measurements...when we went to HD afterward, the planner couldn't figure
out why one wall of the kitchen had a wierd angle. That was a deal
killer, as it was obvious that a measurement made at the corner of the
two walls was incorrect; the sub put in something other than 90 degrees.
I wasn't going to work with someone who couldn't solve such a simple
issue. We weren't going to bother asking for our deposit ($100) back,
but on a later trip to the store the kitchen planner flagged us down and
made us take it )

We then decided that since the old cabinets were good, just ugly, we'd
look at refacing. We had 3/4" ply, built in place cabinets as good as
the day they were built. The carpenter for Sears worked for a week,
refacing, new doors and drawers. We used old door and drawer pulls, but
other hardware was new. I painted inside of cabinets prior to the work.
The carp. was skilled and careful, but I had to call him on a couple of
issues, the major one being counter-top that wasn't even along the miter
at a corner. They are subject to water instrusion if not joined exactly
even and tight. The next issue was a sub who installed the new
sink...from RotoRooter, if I remember right. Late on a Friday, he tried
to convince us that since he didn't have the right size clamps to hold
down the stainless sink, just a line of silicone caulk was going to glue
it down tight. No way!! Hubby made a run to plumbing supply whilst I
held the guy prisoner and we got the sink fastened down right. The
plumber was a dope.

Bottom line: a name is just a name. Sears or HD or whomever will have a
variety of contractors, not all good or all bad. You need to know what
they need to know and be there to watch them do the work. We didn't
hover, but sure checked often. It was expensive, so refacing cheap
cabinets may not be wise...if just refacing, not replacing major items,
might be good. We also covered old metal wall tile with laminate and
then installed glass as a backsplash above our cooktop...love it, so
easy to clean.

I think it is always best to hire contractors whose work you can see, so
check with friends or neighbors. Refacing might be fairly simple, just
contact cement. The cutting and finishing is where quality shows.

Thank you for taking so much time to lay this out for me.

My project should be simple. I have Silestone quartz counter tops so my
only option is to reface the cabinets. I have Opal Oak and want to go
to a darker Cinnamon Oak cabinet. I won't be adding a new sink, extra
cabinets, etc.

My problem is that I live in a small town, so I will definitely be
driving 2 - 3 hours to see their work.

I can see my homework is cut out for me.

Many thanks.


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On 3/29/2011 6:07 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Mar 29, 8:42 am,
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On 3/29/2011 5:14 AM, Kate wrote:

Has anyone hired a company to reface their kitchen/bathroom cabinets?


If so, were you happy with the results and can you give me some tips?


Many thanks.


Kate


We did, with Sears in Florida. We had signed papers with Home Depot to
replace cabinets with new, and got as far as the sub who did the
measurements...when we went to HD afterward, the planner couldn't figure
out why one wall of the kitchen had a wierd angle. That was a deal
killer, as it was obvious that a measurement made at the corner of the
two walls was incorrect; the sub put in something other than 90 degrees.
I wasn't going to work with someone who couldn't solve such a simple
issue. We weren't going to bother asking for our deposit ($100) back,
but on a later trip to the store the kitchen planner flagged us down and
made us take it )

We then decided that since the old cabinets were good, just ugly, we'd
look at refacing. We had 3/4" ply, built in place cabinets as good as
the day they were built. The carpenter for Sears worked for a week,
refacing, new doors and drawers. We used old door and drawer pulls, but
other hardware was new. I painted inside of cabinets prior to the work.
The carp. was skilled and careful, but I had to call him on a couple
of issues, the major one being counter-top that wasn't even along the
miter at a corner. They are subject to water instrusion if not joined
exactly even and tight. The next issue was a sub who installed the new
sink...from RotoRooter, if I remember right. Late on a Friday, he tried
to convince us that since he didn't have the right size clamps to hold
down the stainless sink, just a line of silicone caulk was going to glue
it down tight. No way!! Hubby made a run to plumbing supply whilst I
held the guy prisoner and we got the sink fastened down right. The
plumber was a dope.

Bottom line: a name is just a name. Sears or HD or whomever will have a
variety of contractors, not all good or all bad. You need to know what
they need to know and be there to watch them do the work. We didn't
hover, but sure checked often. It was expensive, so refacing cheap
cabinets may not be wise...if just refacing, not replacing major items,
might be good. We also covered old metal wall tile with laminate and
then installed glass as a backsplash above our cooktop...love it, so
easy to clean.

I think it is always best to hire contractors whose work you can see, so
check with friends or neighbors. Refacing might be fairly simple, just
contact cement. The cutting and finishing is where quality shows.


I'm going to say don't do what this person did. Sear and HD are not
the place to go for work. Supplies yes, work no. They often have the
least experienced contractors because Sears, HD, and ohers take a
piece off the top. To be price competitive they need cheap
contractors.

I don't have any confidence with Sears nor Home Depot, although I know
people who have had great experiences with both.

I will be interviewing cabinet companies, and hope I choose the
right one.

Thanks.
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Has anyone hired a company to reface their kitchen/bathroom cabinets?

If so, were you happy with the results and can you give me some tips?

Many thanks.

Kate


My daughter had hers done in Las Vegas by a local company. They looked
beautiful afterwards and the cost was much lower than new. I didn't think
they were going to come out as good as they did. Shop around and ask
people. You will find some who will give you an idea or direction in a
short time. Some companies even provide names of satisfied customers, and
you can go look at the work.

We just redid our kitchen, and we found a cabinet maker that was going out
of business. They were prefabs, like HD's, and he could alter them, unlike
HD. We had investigated HD before, and if it's anything other than the
standard size, they can't or won't do it. The prices from our going out of
business guy were 1/4 of HD, and the quality was the same. Such a deal,
plus, he GAVE us about three dozen new in box cabinets and about 250 glides
with piston stoppers that I'm selling on craigslist. I helped him sell a
lot of his cabinets and his pallet racking shelves by putting ads on
craigslist around the SW US, and it was quite a nice little commission.

Steve

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It is nice to read about a success story. And, writing about reading, I
just browsed part of your blog. It is very nicely done. I also wish
you the best with your health.
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On 3/29/2011 2:40 PM, Kate wrote:
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My project should be simple. I have Silestone quartz counter tops so my
only option is to reface the cabinets. I have Opal Oak and want to go to
a darker Cinnamon Oak cabinet. I won't be adding a new sink, extra
cabinets, etc.


Any reason you can't degrease, sand, and stain? You can't go lighter
with stain, but you can always go darker. (No idea what Opal and
Cinnamon oak colors are- I wish there was a recognized standard for
defining colors with a number.) Or are the existing cabinets faux
woodgrain on the large faces or something?

Not a fan of cabinet refacing. When you open a cabinet, it always
reminds me of a used car with a cheap paint job, where they didn't
repaint the door edges.

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Has anyone hired a company to reface their kitchen/bathroom cabinets?

If so, were you happy with the results and can you give me some tips?

Many thanks.

Kate


My daughter had hers done in Las Vegas by a local company. They looked
beautiful afterwards and the cost was much lower than new. I didn't
think
they were going to come out as good as they did. Shop around and ask
people. You will find some who will give you an idea or direction in a
short time. Some companies even provide names of satisfied customers,
and
you can go look at the work.

We just redid our kitchen, and we found a cabinet maker that was going
out
of business. They were prefabs, like HD's, and he could alter them,
unlike
HD. We had investigated HD before, and if it's anything other than the
standard size, they can't or won't do it. The prices from our going out
of
business guy were 1/4 of HD, and the quality was the same. Such a deal,
plus, he GAVE us about three dozen new in box cabinets and about 250
glides
with piston stoppers that I'm selling on craigslist. I helped him sell a
lot of his cabinets and his pallet racking shelves by putting ads on
craigslist around the SW US, and it was quite a nice little commission.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.cabgbypasssurgery.com


It is nice to read about a success story. And, writing about reading, I
just browsed part of your blog. It is very nicely done. I also wish you
the best with your health.


Thank you very much. My printed books are about to be delivered, and be
available at amazon, kindle, etc. Bookmark my site, as you never know when
you, a friend, or a family member may need it. And it is hard to find
relevant information before surgery, I know. Lots of day to day experiences
there, it is concentrated in the book.

Good luck with your cabinets. Just ask around and find some happy
customers. My daughter's looked fantastic, and it takes a lot to grab my
attention.

Steve

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On 3/29/2011 2:37 PM, aemeijers wrote:
On 3/29/2011 2:40 PM, Kate wrote:
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My project should be simple. I have Silestone quartz counter tops so my
only option is to reface the cabinets. I have Opal Oak and want to go to
a darker Cinnamon Oak cabinet. I won't be adding a new sink, extra
cabinets, etc.


Any reason you can't degrease, sand, and stain? You can't go lighter
with stain, but you can always go darker. (No idea what Opal and
Cinnamon oak colors are- I wish there was a recognized standard for
defining colors with a number.) Or are the existing cabinets faux
woodgrain on the large faces or something?

Not a fan of cabinet refacing. When you open a cabinet, it always
reminds me of a used car with a cheap paint job, where they didn't
repaint the door edges.

Yes, I could degrease, sand and stain, but what a job. Opal Oak is a
pinkish color, and a cinnamon oak is a medium oak color.

They are oak cabinets. I know what you mean about the colors being
defined by a number.

Thanks for your input.


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On 3/29/2011 8:56 AM, Steve B wrote:
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Has anyone hired a company to reface their kitchen/bathroom cabinets?

If so, were you happy with the results and can you give me some tips?

Many thanks.

Kate

My daughter had hers done in Las Vegas by a local company. They looked
beautiful afterwards and the cost was much lower than new. I didn't
think
they were going to come out as good as they did. Shop around and ask
people. You will find some who will give you an idea or direction in a
short time. Some companies even provide names of satisfied customers,
and
you can go look at the work.

We just redid our kitchen, and we found a cabinet maker that was going
out
of business. They were prefabs, like HD's, and he could alter them,
unlike
HD. We had investigated HD before, and if it's anything other than the
standard size, they can't or won't do it. The prices from our going out
of
business guy were 1/4 of HD, and the quality was the same. Such a deal,
plus, he GAVE us about three dozen new in box cabinets and about 250
glides
with piston stoppers that I'm selling on craigslist. I helped him sell a
lot of his cabinets and his pallet racking shelves by putting ads on
craigslist around the SW US, and it was quite a nice little commission.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.cabgbypasssurgery.com


It is nice to read about a success story. And, writing about reading, I
just browsed part of your blog. It is very nicely done. I also wish you
the best with your health.


Thank you very much. My printed books are about to be delivered, and be
available at amazon, kindle, etc. Bookmark my site, as you never know when
you, a friend, or a family member may need it. And it is hard to find
relevant information before surgery, I know. Lots of day to day experiences
there, it is concentrated in the book.

Good luck with your cabinets. Just ask around and find some happy
customers. My daughter's looked fantastic, and it takes a lot to grab my
attention.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.cabgbypasssurgery.com


Great advice, and I did bookmark your site. And, although I don't drink
much diet pop, I do believe I will cut it out altogether now.
Great info. on your blog.
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On 3/29/2011 5:37 PM, aemeijers wrote:
On 3/29/2011 2:40 PM, Kate wrote:
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My project should be simple. I have Silestone quartz counter tops so my
only option is to reface the cabinets. I have Opal Oak and want to go to
a darker Cinnamon Oak cabinet. I won't be adding a new sink, extra
cabinets, etc.


Any reason you can't degrease, sand, and stain? You can't go lighter
with stain, but you can always go darker. (No idea what Opal and
Cinnamon oak colors are- I wish there was a recognized standard for
defining colors with a number.) Or are the existing cabinets faux
woodgrain on the large faces or something?

Not a fan of cabinet refacing. When you open a cabinet, it always
reminds me of a used car with a cheap paint job, where they didn't
repaint the door edges.


On the other hand, when I close the door of my cheap, old cabinet, I can
say "Wow! They really look great!" )
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On 3/30/2011 2:40 AM, Kate wrote:
On 3/29/2011 2:37 PM, aemeijers wrote:
On 3/29/2011 2:40 PM, Kate wrote:
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My project should be simple. I have Silestone quartz counter tops so my
only option is to reface the cabinets. I have Opal Oak and want to go to
a darker Cinnamon Oak cabinet. I won't be adding a new sink, extra
cabinets, etc.


Any reason you can't degrease, sand, and stain? You can't go lighter
with stain, but you can always go darker. (No idea what Opal and
Cinnamon oak colors are- I wish there was a recognized standard for
defining colors with a number.) Or are the existing cabinets faux
woodgrain on the large faces or something?

Not a fan of cabinet refacing. When you open a cabinet, it always
reminds me of a used car with a cheap paint job, where they didn't
repaint the door edges.

Yes, I could degrease, sand and stain, but what a job. Opal Oak is a
pinkish color, and a cinnamon oak is a medium oak color.

They are oak cabinets. I know what you mean about the colors being
defined by a number.

Thanks for your input.


OMG! How many doors and drawers? Flat surface or molding?
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Great advice, and I did bookmark your site. And, although I don't drink
much diet pop, I do believe I will cut it out altogether now.
Great info. on your blog.


We've all been through it with coffee, etc etc. It will kill you, it is
good for you. Andy Rooney did a broadcast Sunday past. He said something
like "life in substantial quantities will kill you." He was talking about
all the things over the years that are supposed to be bad for us, then the
following study says it is okay. I just personally don't like the taste of
diet soda. It has a brassy taste to me. I'm amused that people will order
a triple cheeseburger, chili cheese curly fries, and a diet drink. I guess
the diet drink counteract and cancel out all those other calories.

Steve

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Great advice, and I did bookmark your site. And, although I don't drink
much diet pop, I do believe I will cut it out altogether now.
Great info. on your blog.


We've all been through it with coffee, etc etc. It will kill you, it is
good for you. Andy Rooney did a broadcast Sunday past. He said something
like "life in substantial quantities will kill you." He was talking about
all the things over the years that are supposed to be bad for us, then the
following study says it is okay. I just personally don't like the taste of
diet soda. It has a brassy taste to me. I'm amused that people will order
a triple cheeseburger, chili cheese curly fries, and a diet drink. I guess
the diet drink counteract and cancel out all those other calories.

Steve

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I see folks ordering that way all the time as well.
I like the word "moderation".
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guess
the diet drink counteract and cancel out all those other calories.


I order diet because I can't stand the amount of sugar in "regular" soda. It
tastes disgusting. Actually, I hate carbonation so I only drink soda when
there are no other cold drinks available. Most fast food places around here
have no non-carbonated beverages without sugar. They have iced tea, but it's
loaded with sugar. Yuck.


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I'm amused that people will order
a triple cheeseburger, chili cheese curly fries, and a diet drink. I
guess
the diet drink counteract and cancel out all those other calories.


I order diet because I can't stand the amount of sugar in "regular" soda. It
tastes disgusting. Actually, I hate carbonation so I only drink soda when
there are no other cold drinks available. Most fast food places around here
have no non-carbonated beverages without sugar. They have iced tea, but it's
loaded with sugar. Yuck.


I'm a cokaholic so I have no sympathy for you.
Just sayin'

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