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Texas Yankee
 
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I need a sanity check - my AC went out a two weeks ago - the tech found a
loose/burnt wire (on the start wind terminal - whatever that means) - he
re-attached it - he mentioned that the compressor seemed to be working
normally, but it was 10 years old and out of warranty - AC wend down again
last night - he came out today, the same wire was burned out - he
re-attached the wire, mentioned that he may not have repaired it correctly
last time, but then again it could be a compressor problem - the compressor
is a RUUD UAKA037JAZ - no charge for this trip - but he wrote on the bill
that a compressor would run $1,487.07 if it eventually needed to be
replaced - does this pricing sound close to reasonable? These guys have
always seemed honest and reliable previously, but $1400 is $1400 - I gotta
check. Thanks, experts!


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Texas Yankee wrote:
I need a sanity check - my AC went out a two weeks ago - the tech found a
loose/burnt wire (on the start wind terminal - whatever that means) - he
re-attached it - he mentioned that the compressor seemed to be working
normally, but it was 10 years old and out of warranty - AC wend down again
last night - he came out today, the same wire was burned out - he
re-attached the wire, mentioned that he may not have repaired it correctly
last time, but then again it could be a compressor problem - the compressor
is a RUUD UAKA037JAZ - no charge for this trip - but he wrote on the bill
that a compressor would run $1,487.07 if it eventually needed to be
replaced - does this pricing sound close to reasonable? These guys have
always seemed honest and reliable previously, but $1400 is $1400 - I gotta
check. Thanks, experts!



Don't buy anything until you get someone else to look at it. He may be
completely honest, but almost 30 years ago I called an A/C man to look
at my new unit. He agreed it was under warranty and replacement of the
compressor would be free, but labor was not. I thanked him and fixed
the problem in five minutes after he had left. It was the contactor was
not energized due to corroded wires from the thermostat. They were
twisted together instead of soldered, and the copper corroded.

Lastly, the same compressor is still working fine 30 years later. I
guess he was either incompetent, or a crook. My guess is the latter.
Not all are, but it is wise to get another opinion.
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Prices vary around the nation. In my part of the world (Western NY) it's a
lot more sensible to replace the entire outdoor unit. Rather than try to cut
the compressor out of an outdoor unit, and keep the dirty coils, contactor,
old fan, etc.

I havn't done one in awhile, but 1500-2000 oughta be about right. Depending
on which refrigerant, and what kind of unit and what kind of compressor.

Might want to call for some quotes on doing the outdoor unit completely.
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"Texas Yankee" wrote in message
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I need a sanity check - my AC went out a two weeks ago - the tech found a
loose/burnt wire (on the start wind terminal - whatever that means) - he
re-attached it - he mentioned that the compressor seemed to be working
normally, but it was 10 years old and out of warranty - AC wend down again
last night - he came out today, the same wire was burned out - he
re-attached the wire, mentioned that he may not have repaired it correctly
last time, but then again it could be a compressor problem - the compressor
is a RUUD UAKA037JAZ - no charge for this trip - but he wrote on the bill
that a compressor would run $1,487.07 if it eventually needed to be
replaced - does this pricing sound close to reasonable? These guys have
always seemed honest and reliable previously, but $1400 is $1400 - I gotta
check. Thanks, experts!



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Stormin Mormon
 
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That oughta been a very easy find for an AC technician. I've never soldered
low power contactor wires. Wirenut, followed by electrical tape has worked
for me.

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www.mormons.com


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Don't buy anything until you get someone else to look at it. He may be
completely honest, but almost 30 years ago I called an A/C man to look
at my new unit. He agreed it was under warranty and replacement of the
compressor would be free, but labor was not. I thanked him and fixed
the problem in five minutes after he had left. It was the contactor was
not energized due to corroded wires from the thermostat. They were
twisted together instead of soldered, and the copper corroded.

Lastly, the same compressor is still working fine 30 years later. I
guess he was either incompetent, or a crook. My guess is the latter.
Not all are, but it is wise to get another opinion.


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Bob Pietrangelo
 
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Have him put on a compressor terminal repair kit. I have seen this onb a
couple of Rheem/Ruud units. The last one I fixed with a terminal repair kit
has been going strong for 5 more years. He can aquire them at any HVAc
supply house, Johnstone Supply, or Grainger.

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"Texas Yankee" wrote in message
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I need a sanity check - my AC went out a two weeks ago - the tech found a
loose/burnt wire (on the start wind terminal - whatever that means) - he
re-attached it - he mentioned that the compressor seemed to be working
normally, but it was 10 years old and out of warranty - AC wend down again
last night - he came out today, the same wire was burned out - he
re-attached the wire, mentioned that he may not have repaired it correctly
last time, but then again it could be a compressor problem - the

compressor
is a RUUD UAKA037JAZ - no charge for this trip - but he wrote on the bill
that a compressor would run $1,487.07 if it eventually needed to be
replaced - does this pricing sound close to reasonable? These guys have
always seemed honest and reliable previously, but $1400 is $1400 - I gotta
check. Thanks, experts!






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"Texas Yankee" wrote in message
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I need a sanity check - my AC went out a two weeks ago - the tech found a
loose/burnt wire (on the start wind terminal - whatever that means) - he
re-attached it - he mentioned that the compressor seemed to be working
normally, but it was 10 years old and out of warranty - AC wend down again
last night - he came out today, the same wire was burned out - he
re-attached the wire, mentioned that he may not have repaired it correctly
last time, but then again it could be a compressor problem - the compressor
is a RUUD UAKA037JAZ - no charge for this trip - but he wrote on the bill
that a compressor would run $1,487.07 if it eventually needed to be
replaced - does this pricing sound close to reasonable? These guys have
always seemed honest and reliable previously, but $1400 is $1400 - I gotta
check. Thanks, experts!


This is Turtle.

If it is just a compressor only to be changed $1,487.00 seems a little on the
high side but due to the area it might be good there in your area but not in
mine in Central Louisiana.

If it is for the '' whole condenser unit '' the $1,487.00 seem to be a excellent
price and fair in everyway.

you need to clear this up.

Now like Bob Said a good Terminal repair kit will fix this problem.

TURTLE


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Bob beat me to the punch. "TermLocks" are about the best thing to use,
however, I have use small Kearneys (sp?) -- the split bolt connectors.
Also have used the lugs like they use to hook up the eqipment ground. If
only the flag is burned off the terminal, it should be able to be easily
and permanantly repaired. Larry

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Hi guys - thanks for the suggestions - remember that I don't know squat
about AC systems, but I gotta ask - what if there's something wrong with
whatever is connected to the terminal - something that's causing it to burn
out repeatedly, something besides just simply a bad connection - would a
terminal repair kit do the job, or would the AC guy need to replace whatever
it is that's causing the terminal to burn out - I feel so ignorant sometimes
.. . .

Thanks very much . . .


"lp13-30" wrote in message
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Bob beat me to the punch. "TermLocks" are about the best thing to use,
however, I have use small Kearneys (sp?) -- the split bolt connectors.
Also have used the lugs like they use to hook up the eqipment ground. If
only the flag is burned off the terminal, it should be able to be easily
and permanantly repaired. Larry



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Don
 
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The connection that is burning up is a slip on connector. they get loose
especially on corroded terminals. Loose connections build heat and the heat
makes the connectors burn away and lose contact. the terminal repair kits.
and kearnies make a screw connection to the compressor terminal minimizing
the heat build up.. connections stay tight and no excesses heat to build up.
Good luck
Don

"Texas Yankee" wrote in message
...
Hi guys - thanks for the suggestions - remember that I don't know squat
about AC systems, but I gotta ask - what if there's something wrong with
whatever is connected to the terminal - something that's causing it to
burn
out repeatedly, something besides just simply a bad connection - would a
terminal repair kit do the job, or would the AC guy need to replace
whatever
it is that's causing the terminal to burn out - I feel so ignorant
sometimes
. . .

Thanks very much . . .


"lp13-30" wrote in message
...
Bob beat me to the punch. "TermLocks" are about the best thing to use,
however, I have use small Kearneys (sp?) -- the split bolt connectors.
Also have used the lugs like they use to hook up the eqipment ground. If
only the flag is burned off the terminal, it should be able to be easily
and permanantly repaired. Larry





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"Texas Yankee" wrote in message
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"lp13-30" wrote in message
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Bob beat me to the punch. "TermLocks" are about the best thing to use,
however, I have use small Kearneys (sp?) -- the split bolt connectors.
Also have used the lugs like they use to hook up the eqipment ground. If
only the flag is burned off the terminal, it should be able to be easily
and permanantly repaired. Larry



Hi guys - thanks for the suggestions - remember that I don't know squat
about AC systems, but I gotta ask - what if there's something wrong with
whatever is connected to the terminal - something that's causing it to

burn
out repeatedly, something besides just simply a bad connection - would a
terminal repair kit do the job, or would the AC guy need to replace

whatever
it is that's causing the terminal to burn out - I feel so ignorant

sometimes
. . .

Thanks very much . . .



Suggest have him replace any capacitors too.

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You guys are amazing - thanks very much for the suggestions!



"TURTLE" wrote in message
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"Texas Yankee" wrote in message
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I need a sanity check - my AC went out a two weeks ago - the tech found a
loose/burnt wire (on the start wind terminal - whatever that means) - he
re-attached it - he mentioned that the compressor seemed to be working
normally, but it was 10 years old and out of warranty - AC wend down

again
last night - he came out today, the same wire was burned out - he
re-attached the wire, mentioned that he may not have repaired it

correctly
last time, but then again it could be a compressor problem - the

compressor
is a RUUD UAKA037JAZ - no charge for this trip - but he wrote on the

bill
that a compressor would run $1,487.07 if it eventually needed to be
replaced - does this pricing sound close to reasonable? These guys have
always seemed honest and reliable previously, but $1400 is $1400 - I

gotta
check. Thanks, experts!


This is Turtle.

If it is just a compressor only to be changed $1,487.00 seems a little on

the
high side but due to the area it might be good there in your area but not

in
mine in Central Louisiana.

If it is for the '' whole condenser unit '' the $1,487.00 seem to be a

excellent
price and fair in everyway.

you need to clear this up.

Now like Bob Said a good Terminal repair kit will fix this problem.

TURTLE




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Texas Yankee wrote:
I need a sanity check - my AC went out a two weeks ago - the tech
found a loose/burnt wire (on the start wind terminal - whatever that
means) - he re-attached it - he mentioned that the compressor seemed
to be working normally, but it was 10 years old and out of warranty -
AC wend down again last night - he came out today, the same wire was
burned out - he re-attached the wire, mentioned that he may not have
repaired it correctly last time, but then again it could be a
compressor problem - the compressor is a RUUD UAKA037JAZ - no charge
for this trip - but he wrote on the bill that a compressor would run
$1,487.07 if it eventually needed to be replaced - does this pricing
sound close to reasonable? These guys have always seemed honest and
reliable previously, but $1400 is $1400 - I gotta check. Thanks,
experts!


Have your contractor use a terminal repair kit.

http://www.qwik.com/q_qwiklug.html


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"Travis Jordan" wrote in message
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Texas Yankee wrote:
I need a sanity check - my AC went out a two weeks ago - the tech
found a loose/burnt wire (on the start wind terminal - whatever that
means) - he re-attached it - he mentioned that the compressor seemed
to be working normally, but it was 10 years old and out of warranty -
AC wend down again last night - he came out today, the same wire was
burned out - he re-attached the wire, mentioned that he may not have
repaired it correctly last time, but then again it could be a
compressor problem - the compressor is a RUUD UAKA037JAZ - no charge
for this trip - but he wrote on the bill that a compressor would run
$1,487.07 if it eventually needed to be replaced - does this pricing
sound close to reasonable? These guys have always seemed honest and
reliable previously, but $1400 is $1400 - I gotta check. Thanks,
experts!


Have your contractor use a terminal repair kit.

http://www.qwik.com/q_qwiklug.html


This is Turtle.

Hey Travis , You picked out the best ones known to use for having the screws
sticking out forward and not have the allen screw to tighten with a allen wrench
sideways and in a very small place. I don't buy nothing but these qwiklugs for
the other are too hard to work with.

TURTLE


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