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Hi All,
So in the past several months I have started turning my wood and metal working hobbies into the way I make my money. It feels good to be working for myself, making clients happy, and learning more and more about small business ownership. I was wondering if anyone has any advice on how to avoid a somewhat common problem I seem to running into. So I was contacted by a prospective client, wants to have a custom bed designed. Looks at my portfolio and decides I am the guy to do it, though I don't think he looked at anyone else's. We schedule a design meeting and I ask him to bring some images, sketches etc of beds that he either likes or doesn't like so we have a jump off place. He doesn't do this, fine we talk some anyways. Seems he likes an idea I am currently working on for another client, though wants to look at some more mass produced beds to have a better sense of how to tweak my design. Fine. I quote him the very large window of 600-1000 for something like the headboard and footboard I am working on currently. A couple weeks goes by. He emails me and says he went to go look at some beds, and found one at a local scandanavian design place that he likes the idea of, and wants to combine my project with one from that store. Says they have them for 600, so he wants to spend no more than that. This is when I start to contemplate dropping him. I want the commision, but only so much. I email back, as diplomatically as I can saying, I would love to work more on the design but that I can't and don't want to compete with the mass made products. That I will use higher quality materials, it will be made in town, to his specifications etc. He replys saying that he can afford 600, and could make 800 work. I say well lets go ahead and get together, look at what he has in mind, let me come up with something, and see if it can come in around that amount. I don't like designing with this hard ceiling, as it frequently means I take the job for less than I would normally want, but I like the work. Today he emails me, asks if I can carve. Now all the other designs even mentioned have been very clean, very modern, nothing even remotely carved. Says he went to a furniture store, found a 2" thick 4 poster, carved bed, and was wondering if I could replicate with some modifications. Now I came to furniture through sculpture, and I can infact carve. But no way in hell I am going to carve a full size bed, for less than 800. What should I do in this situation? Is there some way to avoid this situation entirely? Does anyone ever ask for a retainer after the first meeting? An odd question, but I started feeling like nothing was going to come of this guy from the first meeting. Any advice at all? Thanks Andrew |
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