I am new to woodworking and have only been at this on and off for about a
year and a half. I have a table saw, router and table, and drill press and
some hand power tools, workmate, etc. Please give me some suggestions for
reference material to help with tool upkeep, useful jigs, table saw, router,
drill press techniques, fittings and tools available, sources of plans, and
sources of reasonably priced supplies. In other words, general things that I
should know.

I've been to Borders and seen the scores of books there. I was wondering if
you folks have some favorite reference materials and favorite websites. Most
of you probably are well beyond the stage I'm at, but if you can think of
some preferred references, please pass them along.

Terry

"Terry Vacha" wrote in message
...
I am new to woodworking and have only been at this on and off for about a
year and a half. I have a table saw, router and table, and drill press and
some hand power tools, workmate, etc. Please give me some suggestions for
reference material to help with tool upkeep, useful jigs, table saw,
router,
drill press techniques, fittings and tools available, sources of plans,
and
sources of reasonably priced supplies. In other words, general things that
I
should know.

I've been to Borders and seen the scores of books there. I was wondering
if
you folks have some favorite reference materials and favorite websites.
Most
of you probably are well beyond the stage I'm at, but if you can think of
some preferred references, please pass them along.

Terry

Used it for years.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

It's John Fierer's _Furniture and Cabinetmaking_ , a bit dated in the
pictures, but up-to-date in processes.

Then there's
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

Joyce's _Encyclopedia of Furniture Making _ .

After that, go with books specific to the tool or project type, or tape
Norm.

Do a search in this group. You question is common and it's been
answered several times in the last year......

Wed, Jan 12, 2005, 7:06am (Terry=A0Vacha)
burbled:
snip if you can think of some preferred references, please pass them
along.

What is it, people today, get out of school and forget how to read?

Library, library, library. Then check your local library.



JOAT
Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get.
- =A0Dale Carnegie

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:22:03 -0500, (J T)
wrote:

Then check your local library.

But which book should I look for ?

Secondly, some libraries are better than others. There are several
woodworking books on my own shelves that I first read in one small but
well-stocked library (Carrickfergus, where my ex-wife lives) and then
had to buy my own copy because I've no chance of seeing them in my own
local libraries, despite living in a large city.

"Terry Vacha" wrote in message
...

I've been to Borders and seen the scores of books there. I was wondering
if
you folks have some favorite reference materials and favorite websites.


Grab the new Fine Woodworking. I believe there's a section in there with a
score of books deteremined to be "must reads" for woodworkers by their
staff.

Wed, Jan 12, 2005, 4:49pm (EST+5)
(Andy=A0Dingley) mumbles:
But which book should I look for ?
Secondly, some libraries are better than others. There are several
woodworking books on my own shelves that I first read in one small but
well-stocked library (Carrickfergus, where my ex-wife lives) and then
had to buy my own copy because I've no chance of seeing them in my own
local libraries, despite living in a large city.

Duh. Ya looks for all fhem.

Then you goes out and buys copies of the ones you likes.





JOAT
Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get.
- =A0Dale Carnegie

(snip) Grab the new Fine Woodworking. I believe there's a section in there
with a
score of books deteremined to be "must reads" for woodworkers by their
staff.

I'll second that.
Also, I really liked Lonnie Bird's "Shaping Wood". I got this book for
christmas. Although i've been a woodworker for quite a while now, i still
found some interesting things in the book. If i were new to wood working,
the book would have broadened my horizons greatly. IMO, as a newbie, the
book will give you some good ideas and techniques. From there, you may want
to pick up some other books more focused on the types of projects you are
interested in creating, like shaker, mission, etc.. --dave




"patrick conroy" wrote in message
news

"Terry Vacha" wrote in message
...

I've been to Borders and seen the scores of books there. I was wondering
if
you folks have some favorite reference materials and favorite websites.

"J T" wrote in message
...


What is it, people today, get out of school and forget how to read?
Library, library, library. Then check your local library.


What it is - is libraries are becoming as rare as 12/4 walnut...
Attend any growing communities Zoning / Planning meetings and you'll see
Recreation Centers high on their to-do list and libraries low.

I grew up in "pretty rural" Wisconsin and still had 4 excellent, albeit
small, libraries within 15 minutes. Our town of 1400 people had an excellent
one.

Times are changing.

In article , patrick@conroy-
family.net says...

What it is - is libraries are becoming as rare as 12/4 walnut...
Attend any growing communities Zoning / Planning meetings and you'll see
Recreation Centers high on their to-do list and libraries low.

Times are changing.

If they're changing that much, I'm glad I'm an old man.

We just had a local dogfight as to whether the newly incorporated city
(by, of, and for developers) would pay for the pre-existing library
services. If not, those services would shut down. There was a
considerable public outcry and the city caved - our libraries are safe,
at least in the near future.

--
Homo sapiens is a goal, not a description

First--learn how to use the card file (most libraries today have their
card file on computer: type in a category, it spits back a list of
books on hand).

Second--ask a librarian: they can point you in the right direction for
the category of book/Dewey decimal number/etc.

Third--DAGS this group for "books", or some such search. You'll find a
wealth of suggestions.

Dan

"patrick conroy" wrote in message
news
What it is - is libraries are becoming as rare as 12/4 walnut...
Attend any growing communities Zoning / Planning meetings and you'll see
Recreation Centers high on their to-do list and libraries low.

I grew up in "pretty rural" Wisconsin and still had 4 excellent, albeit
small, libraries within 15 minutes. Our town of 1400 people had an
excellent
one.

Times are changing.


Midwest benefited a bunch from the largess of Andrew Carnegie. Think folks
then were as ungrateful, demanding even more from "the rich" as they do now?

George responds:

What it is - is libraries are becoming as rare as 12/4 walnut...
Attend any growing communities Zoning / Planning meetings and you'll see
Recreation Centers high on their to-do list and libraries low.

I grew up in "pretty rural" Wisconsin and still had 4 excellent, albeit
small, libraries within 15 minutes. Our town of 1400 people had an
excellent
one.

Times are changing.


Midwest benefited a bunch from the largess of Andrew Carnegie. Think folks
then were as ungrateful, demanding even more from "the rich" as they do now?

Dunno what anyone demands from the rich. Most of the very few really rich
people I've known were quite generous, though. To their own families. Carnegie
was a notable exception, and as a child--not in the midwest--I benefited
largely from his largesse in libraries in New York.

As far as libraries go, Bedford County over the past five years has built about
five if we include the over-priced remodel of the in-town main branch.
Actually, they were all over-priced because someone with delusions of grandeur
decided they should resemble Jefferson's Monticello. Floor to ceiling windows,
domes, etc.

They did the building job so well it was four years before they could afford to
fully stock the units with books and videos and CDs. All of this is most
definitely not from the wealthy pocketbooks around here, or at least not at a
higher percentage than is taken from any property owner's wallet. Taxes and
bonds.

Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above
that which is expected." George W. Bush

What it is - is libraries are becoming as rare as 12/4 walnut...
Attend any growing communities Zoning / Planning meetings and you'll see
Recreation Centers high on their to-do list and libraries low.

I grew up in "pretty rural" Wisconsin and still had 4 excellent, albeit
small, libraries within 15 minutes. Our town of 1400 people had an excellent
one.

Times are changing.

================
Guess the times are in fact changing.... Like you I frequented
the local Libraries when I was young....

However I am now in my 60's ...retired...and I read on average about 2
to 3 books each week... . The clerks at the local bookstores and
used book stores know me my name...but I could not even tell you the
last time I walked into a Library...

Think I'll wander down to the local Library some day this week...who
knows the librarian my be cute... lol

Bob Griffiths

I recommend "The Complete Woodworker" edited by Jones. Written around the
turn of the 20th century (~1900) but there's a great deal of information on
woodworking lore, joints etc.

Libraries are good. Certainly a good idea to go there first to see what they
have before you spend money on books.

I was at mine yesterday to get a couple books Charlie Self recommended in
another thread. Two routah books - Warner and Reed. They were there. There
was one Krenov book. No Tage Frid.

Ours is a small town library. So there's no way they can keep up with new
books let alone hold all the old good ones. However they do have an
internet scheme that allows yuo to search for books in other libraries in
the areas, and have them delivered to the local library. This is a great
thing.

That makes libraries more of a temp book shelf than a long term holding
place.


--
Saville

Replicas of 15th-19th century nautical navigational instruments:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/backstaffhome.html

Restoration of my 82 year old Herreshoff S-Boat sailboat:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/SBOATrestore.htm

Steambending FAQ with photos:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/Steambend.htm

"George" george@least wrote in message
...


Midwest benefited a bunch from the largess of Andrew Carnegie.

True. One library wore his name.
'Course, Wisconsin ain't cheap when it comes to taxes.
But we had great roads, libraries, good schools...


I've got young'uns and am dealing with school issues my parents never
dreamed about.

"Terry Vacha" wrote in
:

I am new to woodworking and have only been at this on and off for
about a year and a half. I have a table saw, router and table, and
drill press and some hand power tools, workmate, etc. Please give me
some suggestions for reference material to help with tool upkeep,
useful jigs, table saw, router, drill press techniques, fittings and
tools available, sources of plans, and sources of reasonably priced
supplies. In other words, general things that I should know.

I've been to Borders and seen the scores of books there. I was
wondering if you folks have some favorite reference materials and
favorite websites. Most of you probably are well beyond the stage I'm
at, but if you can think of some preferred references, please pass
them along.

The best single overall book I can recommend is "Tage Frid Teaches
Woodworking vols 1 and 2" (paperback edition).

For Father's Day, my kids renew my subscription to the woodworking magazine
of my choice (personally, I like Fine Woodworking; Wood and Popular
Woodworking are also pretty good). For jigs and beginning techniques,
Woodsmith is useful.

As JOAT says, an afternoon at the local library is cheap.

"George" george@least wrote in :

....
Midwest benefited a bunch from the largess of Andrew Carnegie. Think
folks then were as ungrateful, demanding even more from "the rich" as
they do now?

Or, to look at the flip side: How do you think that Carnegie would regard
"the rich" of today ... how do they measure up to his philosophies?

"There is no class so pitiably wretched as that which possesses money and
nothing else. Money can only be the useful drudge of things immesurably
higher than itself." - A. Carnegie

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:37:41 GMT, Nate Perkins
wrote:

Or, to look at the flip side: How do you think that Carnegie would regard
"the rich" of today ... how do they measure up to his philosophies?

Many of them still have similar philanthropic goals - even Bill Gates.

Carnegie wasn't rich, he was super-duper-rich. Don't judge the
behaviour of the _really_ rich by that of some bling-merchant with a
paltry few million freshly acquired.

--
Smert' spamionam

Andy Dingley wrote in
:

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:37:41 GMT, Nate Perkins
wrote:

Or, to look at the flip side: How do you think that Carnegie would
regard "the rich" of today ... how do they measure up to his
philosophies?

Many of them still have similar philanthropic goals - even Bill Gates.

Carnegie wasn't rich, he was super-duper-rich. Don't judge the
behaviour of the _really_ rich by that of some bling-merchant with a
paltry few million freshly acquired.


Yes, I agree that Gates is an exception in this respect.

Carnegie had remarkable philanthopic and social philosophies that were
expressed very politically. Today in America it is not vogue to have a
such a viewpoint, and if Carnegie were alive today he would not be on the
winning political side.

Terry,

Look for Measure Twice, Cut Once by Tolpin. I'm only a few steps ahead of
you on the woodworking path and I find that book very useful. Try doing a
search on woodworking in the Books section of Amazon.com. You'll get many
hits and can browse the reader comments for many of the selections.

Philly
"Terry Vacha" wrote in message
...
I am new to woodworking and have only been at this on and off for about a
year and a half. I have a table saw, router and table, and drill press and
some hand power tools, workmate, etc. Please give me some suggestions for
reference material to help with tool upkeep, useful jigs, table saw,
router,
drill press techniques, fittings and tools available, sources of plans,
and
sources of reasonably priced supplies. In other words, general things that
I
should know.

I've been to Borders and seen the scores of books there. I was wondering
if
you folks have some favorite reference materials and favorite websites.
Most
of you probably are well beyond the stage I'm at, but if you can think of
some preferred references, please pass them along.

Terry