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Which Saw??
Hi,
I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot recommend?? -- If you wish to email me in future or to reply, my email address is: --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/04 |
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At the risk of sounding sarcastic, jigsaws are used to cut curves. Yes, it
is hard to cut straight with them. Depending on your use, you will have to either suffer with a jigsaw or use a circular saw. They are pretty easy to cut straight with. |
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:32:47 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
wrote: Hi, I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot recommend?? I have a bosch. I like it a lot. however, it's expensive. if money's an issue for you, first try using a better blade in the saw you have. your email address bounces. |
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I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot
recommend?? Ever tried a nice sharp Disston hand saw? Its amazing how well they work. Sometimes we get too hung up with power this-n'-that to realize that there are still some efficient hand tools out there. Another nickel's worth... Joe |
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"toller" writes:
At the risk of sounding sarcastic, jigsaws are used to cut curves. Yes, it is hard to cut straight with them. Depending on your use, you will have to either suffer with a jigsaw or use a circular saw. They are pretty easy to cut straight with. What, a circular saw cuts straight and not circles? ;-) Honest, if the OP does not say *what* he want's to cut it's hard to recomend something to him. But given him posting in a woodworking group and (as infered from his other posting about plans for a 13 year old) being rather young i would recoment a ryoba saw. Hand powered saws make it much harder to cut off fingers that electrically powered ones... And if you are still young you should use the opportunity to learn sawing the right way! -- Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869 Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23 |
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Can you get those in the UK
"Joe Bobst" wrote in message ... I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot recommend?? Ever tried a nice sharp Disston hand saw? Its amazing how well they work. Sometimes we get too hung up with power this-n'-that to realize that there are still some efficient hand tools out there. Another nickel's worth... Joe --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/04 |
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Sam Berlyn wrote:
Hi, I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot recommend?? Use a fence. -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Can you get those in the UK He's talking about a standard hand saw, not powered saw. Disston was a brand that no longer exists, they were in the USA. You could go to a hardware store and buy a nice new Stanley shark tooth (sharp tooth?), these are made with a new teeth design that will do both cross cutting and rip cutting. There used to be a difference between the two types. Maybe they cost around £14 or less. Or try to find an old used one. Alex |
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What's going to be better?
A Stanley one for £14 ish or a Challenge Circular saw for £25 from ArgosExtra (whichever one you say will go on my XMas list! "AAvK" wrote in message news:7Nujd.90355$bk1.88624@fed1read05... Can you get those in the UK He's talking about a standard hand saw, not powered saw. Disston was a brand that no longer exists, they were in the USA. You could go to a hardware store and buy a nice new Stanley shark tooth (sharp tooth?), these are made with a new teeth design that will do both cross cutting and rip cutting. There used to be a difference between the two types. Maybe they cost around £14 or less. Or try to find an old used one. Alex --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/04 |
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:32:47 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
wrote: Hi, I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot recommend?? Use it against a straight edge. Barry |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Sam Berlyn wrote: Hi, I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot recommend?? Use a fence. ------------------ Unless you have a good jigsaw, where the blade can be set parallel to the base, a fence will introduce you to a whole new world of pain. |
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 19:39:24 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
wrote: What's going to be better? A Stanley one for £14 ish or a Challenge Circular saw for £25 from ArgosExtra (whichever one you say will go on my XMas list! Sam- see if you can connect with Andy Dingley. He's in the UK and seems to know what he's about. |
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:32:47 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
wrote: Hi, I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot recommend?? It is not easy to make a straight cut with a jigsaw, nor a bandsaw for that matter. You could try using a clamp-on straightedge. Nothing beats making a straight cut on a well-tuned table saw. |
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"Sam Berlyn" wrote in message ... Hi, I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot recommend?? What are you cutting/ how often will you need a saw. Circular saw or a table saw is much better for straight cutting. What is best? Depends on the needs. Circular saw is great for framing, shelving, rough work. If you want to make furniture, get a table saw. |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message . com... "Sam Berlyn" wrote in message ... Hi, I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot recommend?? What are you cutting/ how often will you need a saw. Circular saw or a table saw is much better for straight cutting. What is best? Depends on the needs. Circular saw is great for framing, shelving, rough work. If you want to make furniture, get a table saw. This is from the "what's it really matter department", but reading your comments Edwin, and I was reminded of life in the service when all I had was a cheap B&D circular saw and an even cheaper Skill jig saw, and a really, really bad B&D 3/8 single speed non-reversible drill motor. Made all of my stuff with those tools. I used to do stage magic when I was overseas and I made all of my own props as well as small furniture pieces. Just goes to show what you can do with lesser tools if you have to. Of course - I did do a lot more sanding then than I do now. Everything's relative - back then I'd have thought owning a couple of saw horses would have been the big time. -- -Mike- |
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 19:39:24 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
calmly ranted: What's going to be better? A Stanley one for £14 ish or a Challenge Circular saw for £25 from ArgosExtra (whichever one you say will go on my XMas list! I'm not familiar with Challenge but both saws are fairly cheap. You might want to look at friends' & neighbor's circular saws before buying a circular saw. They might have some feedback for you, and you could try them at cutting some wood. If you want a new handsaw, buy a Japanese Ryoba saw. It gives you a thin kerf, straight cut (I eyeballed a straight cut on a 2x8 jarrah plank and cut within 0.020") and both rip and crosscut teeth. I picked one up from www.japanwoodworker.com in the USA for $26. For an old saw, try Ebay and look for a real Disston or Atkins handsaw. -- The State always moves slowly and grudgingly towards any purpose that accrues to society's advantage, but moves rapidly and with alacrity towards one that accrues to its own advantage; nor does it ever move towards social purposes on its own initiative, but only under heavy pressure, while its motion towards anti-social purposes is self-sprung. - Albert Jay Nock - http://diversify.com Web Programming for curmudgeons and others. - |
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This is from the "what's it really matter department", but reading your
comments Edwin, and I was reminded of life in the service when all I had was a cheap B&D circular saw and an even cheaper Skill jig saw, and a really, really bad B&D 3/8 single speed non-reversible drill motor. Made all of my stuff with those tools. I used to do stage magic when I was overseas and I made all of my own props as well as small furniture pieces. Just goes to show what you can do with lesser tools if you have to. Of course - I did do a lot more sanding then than I do now. Everything's relative - back then I'd have thought owning a couple of saw horses would have been the big time. -- Good thinking. I wish I was born with such a principle of economic humility, I'd be a better off man nowadays. Alex |
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Sam
More information often helps. What wood and how thick also what jigsaw. Good blades help, generally Bosch in the UK. Cheaper jigsaws don't always cut straight, it may be that you have to hold the body of the saw slightly out of line with the cut to cut straight. If your interested in some of the other suggestions given here. For a hand saw I would suggest to start with one of the hard point saws from Axminster preferable 10pt. With a Diston you would at some time need to find a saw sharpening service which are becoming hard to find. For a circular saw something from B&Q or Axminster would do fine. The ones from B&Q don't always work well at first, you do the quality control rather than the manufacturer which is reflected in the price but they will swap them under guarantee. Two further points if it is for cutting ply or MDF laying it on a sheet of 25mm polystyrene and cutting through the sheet and 5mm into the polystyrene works very well. Also check with your parents before buying they have funny ideas about their 13yr old sons keeping all their fingers which circulars saws are very good at removing. Hope this helps Steve "Sam Berlyn" wrote in message ... Hi, I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot recommend?? -- If you wish to email me in future or to reply, my email address is: --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/04 |
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 20:24:44 -0000, "gandalf"
vaguely proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email "J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Sam Berlyn wrote: Hi, I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot recommend?? Use a fence. ------------------ Unless you have a good jigsaw, where the blade can be set parallel to the base, a fence will introduce you to a whole new world of pain. Hear here! Wot he sed. ************************************************** *** Dogs are better than people. People are better than dogs for only one purpose. And then it's only half of ofthe people. And _then_ most of them are only ordinary anyway. And then they have a headache......... |
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:32:47 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
vaguely proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email Hi, I have a jigsaw, but it's really hard to cut straight. What do you lot recommend?? You have had a lot of replies. But if you describe what you have tried more carefully, then it may be easier to give help. To put it "bluntly", cutting _anything_ with a jigsaw is a skill, as it is with any other tool. That _INCLUDES TABLE SAWS_....sorry, short rant over. ************************************************** *** Dogs are better than people. People are better than dogs for only one purpose. And then it's only half of ofthe people. And _then_ most of them are only ordinary anyway. And then they have a headache......... |
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 08:20:33 +0800, Old Nick
wrote: To put it "bluntly", cutting _anything_ with a jigsaw is a skill, as it is with any other tool. That _INCLUDES TABLE SAWS_....sorry, short rant over. Is that why some saws are called "Skil Saws"? Barry |
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To put it "bluntly", cutting _anything_ with a jigsaw is a skill, as it is with any other tool. That _INCLUDES TABLE SAWS_....sorry, short rant over. Is that why some saws are called "Skil Saws"? Barry aaaaaaa shaaaddaaaapp!! buwahahahahaaaaaa!!! Alex |
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