On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:04:02 GMT, (Ken Muldrew)
wrote:

Robert wrote:

Robin has admitted that because the competitive marketplace in the US demands it
he must give his American customers a better deal.

If you have evidence to back up this egregious accusation, please
produce it.

Why is that an "egregious accusation"? I'm sure LV is in business to
make money by charging what the market will bear. They're not a
charity organization, after all.

If you like the products they offer for the prices they offer them at,
great- if not, vote with your feet. I'm amazed that this even needs
to be discussed!

He said that they set their prices when they print their
catalog, and thereafter price differences accrue as the currency
exchange rates change. The better deal for American customers is only
an artifact of their falling dollar. Rob Lee has no control on the
value of the U.S. dollar; it is completely out of his hands.

Ken Muldrew

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Ken Muldrew wrote:
I've looked through Google Groups and I can find no such statement
(which is why I asked you to produce a quote to back up your
accusation). Can you please quote the message that gave you this idea
that Canadians are subsidizing the American market?

I've asked him to quote as well, he refuses to quote.

Pantload.

Hey Keith...that felt good!

On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 07:48:48 -0500, "Robin Lee"
calmly ranted:

Pantload.

Hey Keith...that felt good!



Atta Boy, Robin. g


--
"Given the low level of competence among politicians,
every American should become a Libertarian."
-- Charley Reese, Alameda Times-Star (California), June 17, 2003

Prometheus wrote:

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:04:02 GMT, (Ken Muldrew)
wrote:

Robert wrote:

Robin has admitted that because the competitive marketplace in the US demands it
he must give his American customers a better deal.

If you have evidence to back up this egregious accusation, please
produce it.

Why is that an "egregious accusation"?

Because it is a lie. Where I come from, public statements that are
intended to malign someone's character dishonestly are considered
egregious. Perhaps people conduct themselves differently where you
live.

I'm sure LV is in business to
make money by charging what the market will bear. They're not a
charity organization, after all.

Of course. I trust that you now see my point was different from what
you surmised.

If you like the products they offer for the prices they offer them at,
great- if not, vote with your feet.

We are in agreement here.

I'm amazed that this even needs
to be discussed!

It doesn't.

Ken Muldrew

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For phone calls, it wouldn't be too hard to tie a TN to a rate center -- a
quick LERG lookup. Then I'd have a pretty good guess on Geography and I
could offer special discount prices to my 'Murican Callers! If they're on
the 'net - then there's ways to map IP addresses to approximate locations.

All so I could offer much lower rates to anyone in 'Murica...


Yep.

And there was a second gunman in the grassy knoll.
There's an alien spaceship in a big hanger in Area 51...

Robert wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 19:00:25 GMT, (Ken Muldrew) wrote:

Prometheus wrote:


Why is that an "egregious accusation"?

Because it is a lie.

It's not. Read below. Americans get a better because of a more competitive
marketplace. Lee said so.

Your quote shows only that their pricing remains competitive despite
the havoc that has been created for them through the growing currency
discrepancy. Your vivid imagination has created a theory with no basis
in fact, and you have sadly used that theory to launch a petulant
attack in a public forum. That is unfortunate, but at least it is just
a mistake rather than a lie. An honest fool.

Ken Muldrew

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Robert wrote:

You mean the quote you snipped?

Yes. Read it again. It does not say what you imagine it does; not even
close.

Ken Muldrew

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"Robert" wrote in message
Are you retarded?

Go troll somewhere else idiot. Better yet, why don't you move your ass down
to the US? You'll get those better prices you're whining about and we
Canadians won't have to be embarrassed that a botttom-feeder like you lives
in our country.

If you really want to make a contribution, then try going after some of our
politicians wasting hundreds of millions of dollars instead of wasting your
time attacking a respected and popular company that's trying to make a
profit.

God, you make me sick. What an irritating little douche bag you are.

"Robert" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 23:32:55 GMT, (Ken Muldrew)
wrote:

Robert wrote:

Answer from Mr Lee:

Stunned silence.


Actually, the reaction is amused tolerance. But then again, I have a soft
heart for hungry trolls.....

Cheers -

Rob

Robert wrote:
One question Mr Lee, is this an implied threat.
I know you are quite fond of threatening posters to usenet.
You did it in the woodturning group and they tossed you out on your over
charging ass.g

Gee, Robert, I musta missed that one. AFAIK, Robin is welcome
everywhere. I'd stand him a Guiness in a heartbeat. Hell, I wish
he'd put a store down here. Your manners, or lack thereof make me
wonder exactly what your agenda is.

Dave in Fairfax
--
Dave Leader
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.Patinatools.org/

Robert wrote:
One question Mr Lee, is this an implied threat.
I know you are quite fond of threatening posters to usenet.
You did it in the woodturning group and they tossed you out on your over
charging ass.g


You don't like Rob's prices, you don't have to buy from Rob. Vote with
your wallet, and so will everyone else.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Robin to go out of business based
on your say so, but that's up to you

Robert wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 23:32:55 GMT, (Ken Muldrew) wrote:

Robert wrote:

You mean the quote you snipped?

Yes. Read it again. It does not say what you imagine it does; not even
close.

Are you retarded?

Since I was asking you to read and understand simple English, perhaps
I am retarded. How about a different tack: Rob Lee said that they have
to prepare their catalog in June and so their prices are set before
that time (for the dimwitted, let me spell this out: a *single* price
is set, and the current exchange rate determines what that price will
be in US currency for the rest of the year). You can easily test the
truth of this statement by looking up the exchange rate for May of
2004. On May 10, the rate closed at 1.3930. Now simply check a few
items on the web catalog in both Canadian and US currency (check them
all, if you want). If every item gives the exact same exchange rate,
and it's close to 1.393 (give or take a rounding off to the nearest 50
cents or so), then you can finally see that your understanding of what
Rob said was completely wrong. If, on the other hand, you find that
prices were set lower for American customers back when the catalog
went to print, then you will be able to gloat about your superior
intellect (but do try the experiment before placing any wagers on the
outcome).

Robert asks:
Mr Lee, why do Canadians pay more for your products than Americans do?

Mr Lee answers.

"Robert AFAIK, we're competitive in either country....against vendors in that
country."

Since he had already confirmed that their prices were set once for the
year, the statement above *clearly* stated that their policy (of
holding prices despite fluctuating exchange rates) had not priced them
out of the market in either country. Your interpretation is wildly off
base.

Mr Lee, so you are saying Canadians pay more for your products because you can
get away with charging them more?

Answer from Mr Lee:

Stunned silence.

The fact that Mr. Lee stopped trying to communicate with someone who
was demonstrably incapable of reading and comprehending simple English
showed that he possesses a good deal of common sense.

Ken Muldrew

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On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 22:37:23 GMT, (Ken Muldrew)
wrote:

Robert wrote:

Yada yada yada.

Your quote shows only that their pricing remains competitive despite
the havoc that has been created for them through the growing currency
discrepancy.

Don't favour the troll with a reply. You are entirely wasting your
time, and just feeding him more fodder for his idiocy. There is way
too much of that already in this newsgroup from people who think it's
alright to fart if they say in a loud voice that they are going to.

On 3-Nov-2004, "Robert" wrote:

I suspect Mr Lee might now be resorting to veiled threats.
I guess I should thank my lucky stars he's such a 'tolerant' guy or I could be
in big trouble.

You're lucky you live in Canada. Psychiatry is covered by health insurance.
Take advantage of it.

Cheers,
Mike

Upscale wrote:

"Robert" wrote in message
Are you retarded?

Go troll somewhere else idiot. Better yet, why don't you move your ass down
to the US? You'll get those better prices you're whining about and we
Canadians won't have to be embarrassed that a botttom-feeder like you lives
in our country.


Tell you what, you keep him and we'll ship you some canned tuna.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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Robert, do you constantly see people in the park looking at you then quickly
turning away when you catch them?

Do you see cars in your rear view mirror that OBVIOUSLY are following you?

I am starting to believe that the LV catalogue is in fact a thinly disguised
CIA tool to get you to cross the line, and when you do - all the goons will
pounce...

If I were you - take all the thinly veiled threats seriously and **** OFF.


"Robert" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:12:48 GMT, (Ken Muldrew)
wrote:

The fact that Mr. Lee stopped trying to communicate with someone who
was demonstrably incapable of reading and comprehending simple English
showed that he possesses a good deal of common sense.

I suspect Mr Lee might now be resorting to veiled threats.
I guess I should thank my lucky stars he's such a 'tolerant' guy or I
could be
in big trouble.


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Nova wrote:
Tell you what, you keep him and we'll ship you some canned tuna.


I'm afeared you could deplete every can from every Pig-A-Lee
Wig-A-Lee in the nation and it still wouldn't be enough.

But I do hear that Sam's has bigger cans. Anyone have plans
for a trebuchet?

UA100

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:56:59 GMT, Unisaw A100
wrote:

Anyone have plans for a trebuchet?

I've already built a few. The idea of a fish-flinging trebuchet _is_
quite tempting. Not tuna, maybe some sort of flatfish. A better wet
phwapp when they impact.

I've already built a few. The idea of a fish-flinging trebuchet _is_
quite tempting. Not tuna, maybe some sort of flatfish. A better wet
phwapp when they impact.

Forget the fish. Fling the troll.

In article , Andy Dingley wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:56:59 GMT, Unisaw A100
wrote:

Anyone have plans for a trebuchet?

I've already built a few. The idea of a fish-flinging trebuchet _is_
quite tempting. Not tuna, maybe some sort of flatfish. A better wet
phwapp when they impact.

It'd take one helluva trebuchet for you to hit a target in North America,
Andy. Make sure you post photos. :-)

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Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter
by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
You must use your REAL email address to get a response.

This may be a dumb@$$ question, but, how come I can't actually see any
of Robert's postings? I can only read snippets in responses. I don't
think that I have set any filtering.

Have his postings been removed?

ET

In article ,
(mnterpfan) wrote:

This may be a dumb@$$ question, but, how come I can't actually see any
of Robert's postings? I can only read snippets in responses. I don't
think that I have set any filtering.

Have his postings been removed?


Not a dumb question. For one reason or another (my vote is that he is a
coward or ashamed of his statements), Robert sets a flag (the
X-NoArchive flag) to yes which states the posters desire to not have the
post permanently archived. Google groups honors this request and only
stores the posts for a short time. I am not sure about the original
groups.google.com, but the new beta seems to store them for a few days.

PK

Doug Miller wrote:

It'd take one helluva trebuchet for you to hit a target in North America,
Andy. Make sure you post photos. :-)

[-: Mental image of an enormous load of "buckshot" (dried
kippers) being flung at the Scots :-]

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

In article , Robert
wrote:

One question Mr Lee, is this an implied threat.
I know you are quite fond of threatening posters to usenet.
You did it in the woodturning group and they tossed you out on your over
charging ass.g

*** TROLL ALERT ***

Gerry

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 00:22:02 GMT, Robert
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 23:32:55 GMT, (Ken Muldrew) wrote:

Robert wrote:

You mean the quote you snipped?

Yes. Read it again. It does not say what you imagine it does; not even
close.

Are you retarded?

Robert asks:
Mr Lee, why do Canadians pay more for your products than Americans do?

Mr Lee answers.

"Robert AFAIK, we're competitive in either country....against vendors in that
country."

Mr Lee, so you are saying Canadians pay more for your products because you can
get away with charging them more?

Answer from Mr Lee:

Stunned silence.

If he was stunned, it was probably by your amazing lack of common
sense. If I was selling tools, I'd charge as much for them as I
could, without damaging the reputation of my company or decreasing
sales to the point where the higher prices actually cause the company
to lose money. Simple Economics. It's Lee Valley, not the salvation
army.

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:53:35 -0500, Nova
wrote:

Upscale wrote:

"Robert" wrote in message
Are you retarded?

Go troll somewhere else idiot. Better yet, why don't you move your ass down
to the US? You'll get those better prices you're whining about and we
Canadians won't have to be embarrassed that a botttom-feeder like you lives
in our country.


Tell you what, you keep him and we'll ship you some canned tuna.

And maybe one of those big water-balloon launchers to fling 'em with.

Wow! I for one am glad you aren't out at the pickets
watching for incoming.

UA100

In article , Unisaw A100
wrote:

Wow! I for one am glad you aren't out at the pickets
watching for incoming.

Not trying to be funny, but what were you responding to?

Gerry

G.E.R.R.Y. wrote:
Not trying to be funny, but what were you responding to?

Sorry Gerry. It's just that Robert has been at it now for a
couple/few weeks and anyone who hasn't caught on that he's a
troll pretty much resides at the shallow end of the gene
pool/probably doesn't have the brain capacity to know he's a
troll even after reading your belated warning.

UA100

"Unisaw A100" wrote in message

Sorry Gerry. It's just that Robert has been at it now for a
couple/few weeks and anyone who hasn't caught on that he's a
troll pretty much resides at the shallow end of the gene
pool/probably doesn't have the brain capacity to know he's a
troll even after reading your belated warning.

Of course he's a troll. That doesn't mean what he's been posting should be
completely ignored until he goes away.