Made a 50 mile run to the nearest Woodcraft store
to get some Brusso knife hinges for the small
coopered doors cabinet I got carried away making.
These puppies ARE NOT CHEAP - $14-$20 a pair.
I couldn’t go with just a single coopered door -
had to make a pair of doors. So this little
16W x 20H x6”D wall cabinet for router bits is
going to have around $30 in just the knife hinges
- assuming I can install them correctly.

Foreseeing making some more boxes, I looked
at the wall rack full of hinges, searching for
a less expensive alternative to SOSS/Brusso
priced hinges.

Hmmm - barbed slot hinges. $2.50 a pair. Cut
slots, push the barbed leaves in the slot and
you’re done. OK, so you have to chamfer the
hinged edges but that’s a quick no brainer router
table operation. No mortising, no screw holes, no
stripped screws - what could be simpler?

I did mention that these things are only $2.50
a pair?

$14 to $20 a pair vs $2.50 a pair . . .

$7 to $10 per hinge vs $1.25 per hinge . . .

Oh, did I mention that these barbed hinges
require cutting the slots with a special
$20, diameter circular saw blade?
What about the $25 special arbor that
the special saw blade requires? Did you
know that the small, $20, saw blade does
only the “small” barbed hinges? The medium
barbed hinges require a different $20
saw blade?

So
two sets each of the small and medium
barbed hinges comes to
$10
PLUS
$65!

This is a slick marketing guys dream.
Hell, they could give you 4 pairs of
each of the hinge sizes and still make
money.

Now I’ll have to do 100 barbed hinged
boxes to make this purchase cost
effective and get the actual hinge
set cost down to $2.57.

I’ve gotta stop doing this.

Is there a tool junkie equivalent of AA?
If I stay “clean” maybe I can get a
30 days biscuit. I need a “sponsor”.
Volunteers?

charlie b

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 02:36:23 -0700, charlie b wrote:

Made a 50 mile run to the nearest Woodcraft store


Hey Charlie, unless my brain fogger is on, you're a Bay Area guy, which
means you had to tool up to Dublin(?). Didja know you'll be able to get
your crack^H^H^H^H^H woodworking supplies and hardware in San Carlos
instead?

San Carlos (San Francisco Bay Area) Opening: 10/18/2004
1121 B Industrial Road
San Carlos, CA 94070
650-631-WOOD

I can't wait to take the tool-obsessed 2-year-old to check stuff out.

Buttonhole McGee writes:
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 02:36:23 -0700, charlie b wrote:

Made a 50 mile run to the nearest Woodcraft store


Hey Charlie, unless my brain fogger is on, you're a Bay Area guy, which
means you had to tool up to Dublin(?). Didja know you'll be able to get
your crack^H^H^H^H^H woodworking supplies and hardware in San Carlos
instead?

San Carlos (San Francisco Bay Area) Opening: 10/18/2004
1121 B Industrial Road
San Carlos, CA 94070
650-631-WOOD


Way cool. Looks like it is by the Antique Trove. Two birds with one
stone!

scott

Buttonhole McGee wrote:

Hey Charlie, unless my brain fogger is on, you're a Bay Area guy, which
means you had to tool up to Dublin(?).

That'd be the place. But it's a nice run in the little Miata, sun
shining,
wind blowing through where my hair use to be, engine purring and
eyes scanning for CHP. And, due to space limitations, I can't
acquire anything big or heavy (read: really expensive).

Didja know you'll be able to get
your crack / woodworking supplies and hardware in San Carlos
instead?
San Carlos (San Francisco Bay Area) Opening: 10/18/2004
1121 B Industrial Road
San Carlos, CA 94070
650-631-WOOD

WoodCraft opening another store or are you talking about
Rockler? Rockler has a store around there already. They've
got a lot more hardware and hardware installation stuff.
Should've gone there for the knife hinges.

I can't wait to take the tool-obsessed 2-year-old to check stuff out.

Always nice to have allies - strength in numbers when it
comes to dealing with SWMBO.

charlie b

charlie b wrote in
:

That'd be the place. But it's a nice run in the little Miata, sun
shining, wind blowing through where my hair use to be, engine purring and
eyes scanning for CHP. And, due to space limitations, I can't
acquire anything big or heavy (read: really expensive).

Didja know you'll be able to get
your crack / woodworking supplies and hardware in San Carlos
instead?
San Carlos (San Francisco Bay Area) Opening: 10/18/2004
1121 B Industrial Road
San Carlos, CA 94070
650-631-WOOD

WoodCraft opening another store or are you talking about
Rockler? Rockler has a store around there already. They've
got a lot more hardware and hardware installation stuff.
Should've gone there for the knife hinges.

The Rockler store that enables my habit is in Pleasant Hill, 20 more miles
up the road.

And the problem with your Miata theory is that Woodcraft stocks Lie-
Nielsen... They are also enablers.

When you find the group therapy that doesn't end up pushing me off the
wagon, then let me know. Most of them are more like "Ever seen one of
these?"

Patriarch

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 02:36:23 -0700, charlie b wrote:

Oh, did I mention that these barbed hinges
require cutting the slots with a special
$20, diameter circular saw blade?

Stowe in his box-making book mentions using a trim saw bit in a router
table to seat barbed hinges.

ray wrote in message ...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 02:36:23 -0700, charlie b wrote:

Oh, did I mention that these barbed hinges
require cutting the slots with a special
$20, diameter circular saw blade?

Stowe in his box-making book mentions using a trim saw bit in a router
table to seat barbed hinges.

A trim saw whaaat?! What's a trim saw bit?

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:15:36 -0700, Gary DeWitt wrote:

Stowe in his box-making book mentions using a trim saw bit in a router
table to seat barbed hinges.

A trim saw whaaat?! What's a trim saw bit?

I'd like to know myself. According to Stowe, it's made by Bosch. It
looks, in the photo, like a little circular saw blade on a 1/2" arbor,
maybe 1 to 2 inches in diameter. He implies that it's for a drill press,
but I can't seem to find an example in any of my catalogs.

"Ray Aldridge" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:15:36 -0700, Gary DeWitt wrote:

Stowe in his box-making book mentions using a trim saw bit in a router
table to seat barbed hinges.

A trim saw whaaat?! What's a trim saw bit?

I'd like to know myself. According to Stowe, it's made by Bosch. It
looks, in the photo, like a little circular saw blade on a 1/2" arbor,
maybe 1 to 2 inches in diameter. He implies that it's for a drill press,
but I can't seem to find an example in any of my catalogs.


Here's some on the web:
http://www.circlesaw.com/shoppingcart/catalog614_0.html
Expensive, though...

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:11:26 -0500, Ray Aldridge
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:15:36 -0700, Gary DeWitt wrote:

Stowe in his box-making book mentions using a trim saw bit in a router
table to seat barbed hinges.

A trim saw whaaat?! What's a trim saw bit?

I'd like to know myself. According to Stowe, it's made by Bosch. It
looks, in the photo, like a little circular saw blade on a 1/2" arbor,
maybe 1 to 2 inches in diameter. He implies that it's for a drill press,
but I can't seem to find an example in any of my catalogs.


look in a machinery supply catalog for a slitter saw blade

Ray Aldridge wrote:

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:15:36 -0700, Gary DeWitt wrote:

Stowe in his box-making book mentions using a trim saw bit in a router
table to seat barbed hinges.

A trim saw whaaat?! What's a trim saw bit?

I'd like to know myself. According to Stowe, it's made by Bosch. It
looks, in the photo, like a little circular saw blade on a 1/2" arbor,
maybe 1 to 2 inches in diameter. He implies that it's for a drill press,
but I can't seem to find an example in any of my catalogs.

WoodCraft has the arbor and the saw blades. Have posted
some pics in alt.binaries/pictures.woodworking.

After checking the prices on little saw blades that others
posted URLs to, I'm feeling a little better about paying
$20 for a 2 1/4" D, 0.025" kerf 60T saw blade.

I don't think I'd want to spin these things at 10K-28K rpms
in a router but they're not scary at all in a drill press on
its lowest speed. How one registers/aligns the cuts is
still a bit of a mystery but I'll figure it out eventually.

charlie b